TC battles to watch

[TecnoGenius]

Can he play teams?  If so, can we roster him as a FB or something?  6'4, 216, maybe SY guy as well?  Can we carry 4 QB on the active roster if one is designated as a FB?

Our best SY in the last decade have been:

6'1
6'1
6'1
6'3 <--- my favorite

6'4 seems a little tall, but not outside the realm of possibility.  There's still an aspect of "sneaking" required to sneak.

I'm not sure there's any gain to having the #2 a NAT?  Maybe you can add 1 more IMP on for the few snaps when he's on the field?

[TecnoGenius]

Pretty sure Patterson was used as the SY QB in Sask. last season, beating out Dolegala and Fine, don't know how good he was but I remember he's fairly mobile and can run decently.

Patterson was mediocre at best in SY.  He looked "wrong" doing it.  I don't think he wanted to be doing it.  It's just that SSK didn't have any other options since they don't seem to bother rostering a dedicated, master "SY guy".

Patterson is an aspiring #1, I don't think he wants to hang around and be the next Dom Davis or Prukop.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Barriere was such a disaster he didn't even make it to the end of camp. They brought in Darren Grainger when camp was almost almost finished (May 25). He stuck around a week.

I'm not saying Wilson isn't the guy but he absolutely had virtually zero actual competition.

Right, didn't he re-sign with the Bombers then decide to retire?  Bryan Scott also stopped in for a cup of coffee before re-signing with the Argos.

[TecnoGenius]

Could be - that's a ton of arms. It's also reasonable to think two steps ahead at the QB position - if this is Zach's last year you need to have his replacement THIS year.

Not if you're just going to FA the problem away in FA'26.  If we want to pony up big, the world is our oyster.  What QB who is in FA wouldn't want to come play here?

The only problem is, we haven't had to pony up for a big name FA QB in forever.  Drew Willy was probably the last one we had to "splash" a bit for.  Both Zach and Nichols signed for reasonable money when first coming here, as both were thought to be headed nowhere.

Especially with the "tamper period", it may be easier than ever to buy top talent away.

[TecnoGenius]

If Wilson finishes this TC, then he is the heir apparent for Zach.  They don't invest this much time otherwise.  If he doesn't continue his development, they could go with Patterson in that role.

2 words: Dom Davis.  3 seasons with WPG.  We wasted a ton of time on him.

Wilson staying on the roster thru '25 says nothing.  In fact, the Dom experience may teach us to cut bait a lot faster on this (potential) type of QB.

[TecnoGenius]

Wilson has accomplished less in the CFL than Dolegala, Patterson and Streveler

Yup.  And Wilson had his big huge chance in the GC.  He gets that passing Kenny-corner TD and it's a whole different story.  He could have put more air on it (why would anyone underthrow Kenny??).

The series Wilson had was enough to convince Mafia we had to keep fielding a ruined Zach.

Wilson seems dull and uninterested.  It's good to be even-keel, but not to the point of seeming lifeless.  He should have come in that game and acted like Chad Kelly did, and he should have run a few times after a fake to Brady.

I'm not saying he can't still be "it", but he's running out of chances to show it.

[Blueforlife]

Nah.  Neither greenie QB is good at SY.

So you need Wilson as 3rd, or Strev if he's healthy.

Strev will hang around on 6GIR until he gets a chance to show if he can still do SY or not.

The only possible fly in the ointment is the new draft guy, but his body type and resume doesn't hint at a SY role.

One of the greenie guys will have to go.  Unless we want to hide some on IR and hold them as trade bait if/when the other teams get injuries.  Think TOR that year they held Collaros + like 26 other decent QBs.  (Of course, KW would never do that as it's KISS all day every day in WFC.)

You called it!

Wilson beat out nobody in camp last year to make the team and all the Bombers have done since is sign and add as many quarterbacks as they can to this year's camp.

Maybe he'll win and job and maybe he won't but this year he'll actually have to earn it. All last year's "time investment" has earned him is a leg up in understanding the CFL. It's not insignificant but if he was thought of as a true heir apparent they're not signing 45 quarerbacks and drafting another one.

Wilson has accomplished less in the CFL than Dolegala, Patterson and Streveler

Understatement on what Wilson did to earn a spot imo, you make it sound like he didn't earn it which is clear he did, guy has the skills, a pro camp for any CFL team for any position is extremely competitive and the guys that earn a PR or roster spot have earned their dues, imo

Agree it's telling that we have so many fresh faces and yes a battle for the ages and agree way more quality than last

I like Wilson but too early to know

I like continuity and like to slowly develop our talent

I also like that we have more options at QB than ever!

2 words: Dom Davis.  3 seasons with WPG.  We wasted a ton of time on him.

Wilson staying on the roster thru '25 says nothing.  In fact, the Dom experience may teach us to cut bait a lot faster on this (potential) type of QB.

Not a fair comparison imo.  Davis was a specialist at QB and decent at it.  Never had the same tools Wilson has, imo.

[theaardvark]

Collaros
Patterson

Are definitely 1-2, minus something crazy in camp...

I genuinely believe Wilson and Strev battle for the SY/3 spot. Other being released.

Elgersma PR for this season

Patterson is here on a minimal salary.  If the mafia had extensive belief in him, he'd have a much bigger salary..

[TecnoGenius]

Not a fair comparison imo.  Davis was a specialist at QB and decent at it.  Never had the same tools Wilson has, imo.

You're not remembering back far enough.  Dom Davis was highly touted and being groomed and planned by the Mafia to be the next big thing.  They wanted him to be legit #1.  And they gave him many (as far as these things go) chances to start/play.

I don't think they decided he was "just a SY guy" until year 3 when they had to admit he was a bust.

I like Wilson too, but the dude needs to hit the smelling salts or something before he comes out for a series.  He's the opposite of lively.  He'll be lucky if he gets another chance to shine: and if he gets it he needs to glow brightly.

[Blue In BC]

TC invites can be quick and dirty.  If a guy comes in, shows extremely well, he can earn a longer look.  But most likely will flame out quick.

Elgersma is a different option, being a NAT.  Not sure how NAT QB influences the AR, but it does count on the field.  Which is why teams are drafting / developing them.

We didn't use that pick just to let him get cut without some serious consideration.  The fact he has been playing 3 down/wide field/12 player/waggle ball all his life makes the learning curve that  much shorter for him.  Its just the speed and complexity of pro ball that he has to ramp up on.

Question:

Can he play teams?  If so, can we roster him as a FB or something?  6'4, 216, maybe SY guy as well?  Can we carry 4 QB on the active roster if one is designated as a FB?

You could carry a 4th QB on the AR if you list him as a FB or receiver etc. It would be a waste of a spot as a DI which he'd have to be. That's not in the cards unless he can be a good back up at receiver for example. We have to find a good combination of QB's in the 3 we choose.

OTOH it might be one way to hide Elgersma on the AR, but you have to leave another Canadian off the roster.  If you're doing that so he can be the SY QB, then what is the value of whoever is # 3 QB? Pretty sure nobody is going to snatch a rookie or Wilson from our PR.

[Sir Blue and Gold]

Patterson is here on a minimal salary.  If the mafia had extensive belief in him, he'd have a much bigger salary..

Correct. Kyle Walters enjoys paying more than he is required to sign players. He loves it. That's actually how his job is graded out at the end of the year. "Kyle, we had a great year but how much over and above the minimum amount required to sign players did you spend?"

[Blueforlife]

You're not remembering back far enough.  Dom Davis was highly touted and being groomed and planned by the Mafia to be the next big thing.  They wanted him to be legit #1.  And they gave him many (as far as these things go) chances to start/play.

I don't think they decided he was "just a SY guy" until year 3 when they had to admit he was a bust.

I like Wilson too, but the dude needs to hit the smelling salts or something before he comes out for a series.  He's the opposite of lively.  He'll be lucky if he gets another chance to shine: and if he gets it he needs to glow brightly.

Good point I was more remembering late edition Davis not early

[Jesse]

You called it!
Understatement on what Wilson did to earn a spot imo, you make it sound like he didn't earn it which is clear he did, guy has the skills, a pro camp for any CFL team for any position is extremely competitive and the guys that earn a PR or roster spot have earned their dues, imo

Agree it's telling that we have so many fresh faces and yes a battle for the ages and agree way more quality than last

I like Wilson but too early to know

I like continuity and like to slowly develop our talent

I also like that we have more options at QB than ever!
Not a fair comparison imo.  Davis was a specialist at QB and decent at it.  Never had the same tools Wilson has, imo.

He's here, he's earned it.

It's also fair to point out that the QB room behind Zach has been in flux since Dru Brown left and he's never had to compete against another QB as a Bomber.

This year he will have to.

That said, I think the odds on favourites should always be that status quo: Zach, Strev, Wilson; Elgersma on the PR.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Yup.  And Wilson had his big huge chance in the GC.  He gets that passing Kenny-corner TD and it's a whole different story.  He could have put more air on it (why would anyone underthrow Kenny??).

The series Wilson had was enough to convince Mafia we had to keep fielding a ruined Zach.

Wilson seems dull and uninterested.  It's good to be even-keel, but not to the point of seeming lifeless.  He should have come in that game and acted like Chad Kelly did, and he should have run a few times after a fake to Brady.

I'm not saying he can't still be "it", but he's running out of chances to show it.

If you can find them re-watch the pre-season games from last season, Wilson won the job in those two games and looked fairly impressive doing so.

[theaardvark]

The whole Wilson at #2 question, in my mind, stems from the GC.

Why, with Zach bleeding out on the sidelines, was Wilson not immediately inserted? If they had faith in him, it did not show in that moment.  Any other player gets injured like that, and his replacement subs in.

So you have to ask yourself, why did they hesitate?  Would they have done the same in a regular season game?  Of would Wilson have come in?  Was this the pressure of being behind in the most important game?