TC battles to watch

[Blueforlife]

He's here, he's earned it.

It's also fair to point out that the QB room behind Zach has been in flux since Dru Brown left and he's never had to compete against another QB as a Bomber.

This year he will have to.

That said, I think the odds on favourites should always be that status quo: Zach, Strev, Wilson; Elgersma on the PR.

Agree all

If you can find them re-watch the pre-season games from last season, Wilson won the job in those two games and looked fairly impressive doing so.

Agreed well earned

[TecnoGenius]

If you can find them re-watch the pre-season games from last season, Wilson won the job in those two games and looked fairly impressive doing so.

I remember that.  I may still have our 1 televised PS on PVR, I'll check.  However, all he had to do in those games was not suck as bad as the other raw competition.

Still, we're all hoping for the best.

[TecnoGenius]

The whole Wilson at #2 question, in my mind, stems from the GC.

Why, with Zach bleeding out on the sidelines, was Wilson not immediately inserted? If they had faith in him, it did not show in that moment.  Any other player gets injured like that, and his replacement subs in.

So you have to ask yourself, why did they hesitate?  Would they have done the same in a regular season game?  Of would Wilson have come in?  Was this the pressure of being behind in the most important game?

He was immediately inserted!  He had 2 series, IIRC.  One ended in 2 failed TD pass.  The other got an iffy DPI and eventually we ran it in (again, just from memory).

As I recall, Wilson had 1 impressive pass in zone, and maybe 1-2 other minor completions?  The long DPI is what let us score.

But your point still stands if you move the "immediately" to "as soon as Zach threw the first INT".  And you're 100% right.  (Also, replace "Wilson" with Dolegala and it's equally true.)

[Sir Blue and Gold]

The decision had nothing to do with Wilson at all.

It was crunch time in the Grey Cup and if Collaros said he could play he was going to play.

That's true if they love Wilson, hate Wilson or anything in between.

[TecnoGenius]

The decision had nothing to do with Wilson at all.

Yes, and no.  If Wilson's 2 series had looked like Kelly in the '22 GC, then Wilson likely stays in regardless of what Zach thinks (at least after his first INT).

The fact he looked only average meant there was no excitement or faith to roll with Wilson.

[Sir Blue and Gold]

Yes, and no.  If Wilson's 2 series had looked like Kelly in the '22 GC, then Wilson likely stays in regardless of what Zach thinks (at least after his first INT).

The fact he looked only average meant there was no excitement or faith to roll with Wilson.

Yes, totally. Mike O'Shea was absolutely undertaking a quarterback try out in the third quarter of the Grey Cup. Sounds exactly like him.

Terry Wilson could have ran 100 yards and scored doing a double back flip half twist and if Collaros said he was good Collaros would have been back in.

It's not even slightly debatable.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Yes, and no.  If Wilson's 2 series had looked like Kelly in the '22 GC, then Wilson likely stays in regardless of what Zach thinks (at least after his first INT).

The fact he looked only average meant there was no excitement or faith to roll with Wilson.

Regardless, it wasn't enough and they were going to lose that game no matter who played QB.  Which they did.

[TecnoGenius]

Terry Wilson could have ran 100 yards and scored doing a double back flip half twist and if Collaros said he was good Collaros would have been back in.

Yes, MOS plays it safe.  But no, if Wilson had thrown 2 60Y TDs in his 2 series and maybe scrambled out of 2nd & long 2-3 times, then I think even MOS pulls Zach for Wilson after his first bad-finger INT.  Buck does love a hot hand.

Is MOS as smart as Dinwiddie?  Let's assume ya.  Dinwiddie said clearly that he knew for a fact he'd win the game as soon as Zach underthrew that INT on his first attempt.  Ergo MOS knew for a fact Zach was going to not be able to get the job done at that same moment.

So why would MOS leave Zach in after 1, 2 and 3 INTs?  Because he had even less faith in Wilson because Wilson showed nothing in that same game.

The funny thing is: what happened to Zach is a lot like what happened to MBT in '22.  In fact, MBT's injury was probably a smaller one!  Yet Dinwiddie did roll with the "quarterback try out" in that game because Kelly was instantly fire on the field (10X better than MBT!).

[TecnoGenius]

Regardless, it wasn't enough and they were going to lose that game no matter who played QB.  Which they did.

Probably.  Unless the D had been able to win it for us with some 2019-level magic.

[Sir Blue and Gold]

Yes, MOS plays it safe.  But no, if Wilson had thrown 2 60Y TDs in his 2 series and maybe scrambled out of 2nd & long 2-3 times, then I think even MOS pulls Zach for Wilson after his first bad-finger INT.  Buck does love a hot hand.

Is MOS as smart as Dinwiddie?  Let's assume ya.  Dinwiddie said clearly that he knew for a fact he'd win the game as soon as Zach underthrew that INT on his first attempt.  Ergo MOS knew for a fact Zach was going to not be able to get the job done at that same moment.

So why would MOS leave Zach in after 1, 2 and 3 INTs?  Because he had even less faith in Wilson because Wilson showed nothing in that same game.

The funny thing is: what happened to Zach is a lot like what happened to MBT in '22.  In fact, MBT's injury was probably a smaller one!  Yet Dinwiddie did roll with the "quarterback try out" in that game because Kelly was instantly fire on the field (10X better than MBT!).

We put him in a very tough spot," O'Shea said at the podium. "It was a situation he demanded to be put in."

Collaros wanted to play. Collaros went in. Not hard to explain or understand. Terry Wilson or Terry Bradshaw -- it wasn't a factor.

[TecnoGenius]

We put him in a very tough spot," O'Shea said at the podium. "It was a situation he demanded to be put in."

Who's the boss?

[Jesse]

Yes, totally. Mike O'Shea was absolutely undertaking a quarterback try out in the third quarter of the Grey Cup. Sounds exactly like him.

Terry Wilson could have ran 100 yards and scored doing a double back flip half twist and if Collaros said he was good Collaros would have been back in.

It's not even slightly debatable.

Collaros didn't say he was good. Iirc, he was surprised he was sent back in.

[Sir Blue and Gold]

Collaros didn't say he was good. Iirc, he was surprised he was sent back in.

The quote isn't literal it was O'Shea explaining his thought process. That is to say Collaros wasn't angry and screaming at the coaching staff to put him in.

Instead, O'Shea is telling you the situation (that is, the Grey Cup), in his mind, demanded he play Collaros if he physically could.

He wasn't weighing decisions or evaluating Wilson. His number one quarterback was patched up enough to go back in and he was going to go back in. The situation demanded it.

(And I'm not really directing this to you, Jesse, even though I'm quoting you.)

[Sir Blue and Gold]

Who's the boss?

Read the quote again, better.

[markf]

2 words: Dom Davis.  3 seasons with WPG.  We wasted a ton of time on him.

Wilson staying on the roster thru '25 says nothing.  In fact, the Dom experience may teach us to cut bait a lot faster on this (potential) type of QB.

That's a good example of how things have been re backup qb.complete waste of time. I guess counter is Brown.

Re Wilson... I think he's very good at short yardage. That alone should get him a spot shouldn't it?