TC battles to watch

Started by Blue In BC, April 30, 2025, 03:29:32 PM

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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: TecnoGenius on May 01, 2025, 03:59:46 AMNah.  Neither greenie QB is good at SY.

So you need Wilson as 3rd, or Strev if he's healthy.

Strev will hang around on 6GIR until he gets a chance to show if he can still do SY or not.

The only possible fly in the ointment is the new draft guy, but his body type and resume doesn't hint at a SY role.

One of the greenie guys will have to go.  Unless we want to hide some on IR and hold them as trade bait if/when the other teams get injuries.  Think TOR that year they held Collaros + like 26 other decent QBs.  (Of course, KW would never do that as it's KISS all day every day in WFC.)


Pretty sure Patterson was used as the SY QB in Sask. last season, beating out Dolegala and Fine, don't know how good he was but I remember he's fairly mobile and can run decently.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Blue In BC on May 01, 2025, 03:11:45 PM3rd down reports that Streveler is healthy and ready for TC. We'll know soon enough.

I believe Strev has indicated he's well ahead of schedule but he still needs to pass his TC physical, which could be why the Bombers have lined up other options.

theaardvark

TC invites can be quick and dirty.  If a guy comes in, shows extremely well, he can earn a longer look.  But most likely will flame out quick.

Elgersma is a different option, being a NAT.  Not sure how NAT QB influences the AR, but it does count on the field.  Which is why teams are drafting / developing them.

We didn't use that pick just to let him get cut without some serious consideration.  The fact he has been playing 3 down/wide field/12 player/waggle ball all his life makes the learning curve that  much shorter for him.  Its just the speed and complexity of pro ball that he has to ramp up on.

Question:

Can he play teams?  If so, can we roster him as a FB or something?  6'4, 216, maybe SY guy as well?  Can we carry 4 QB on the active roster if one is designated as a FB?

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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: theaardvark on May 01, 2025, 04:03:42 PMTC invites can be quick and dirty.  If a guy comes in, shows extremely well, he can earn a longer look.  But most likely will flame out quick.

Elgersma is a different option, being a NAT.  Not sure how NAT QB influences the AR, but it does count on the field.  Which is why teams are drafting / developing them.

We didn't use that pick just to let him get cut without some serious consideration.  The fact he has been playing 3 down/wide field/12 player/waggle ball all his life makes the learning curve that  much shorter for him.  Its just the speed and complexity of pro ball that he has to ramp up on.

Question:

Can he play teams?  If so, can we roster him as a FB or something?  6'4, 216, maybe SY guy as well?  Can we carry 4 QB on the active roster if one is designated as a FB?

Elgersma switched from hockey to QB in grade 10, so still very raw, go watch Walters interview, he talks a lot about how they plan to manage him.

Jesse

Yes. Basically just don't count Elgersma in the discussion. He's here to soak up all he can but there are no expectations on him this year.
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Pigskin

The Bombers have already started to shave down the roster with the release of Dolegala. I expect a few more players released before TC starts.
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blue_gold_84

Quote from: Pigskin on May 01, 2025, 07:00:55 PMThe Bombers have already started to shave down the roster with the release of Dolegala. I expect a few more players released before TC starts.

Makes me wonder if Streveler's healthy. Would be nice, IMO.
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Sir Blue and Gold

Redoing my chart since I was already wrong:

Game day roster

Collaros
Patterson
Wilson

Released

Streveler (IR if he's still hurt or we want to be super nice)

Practice Roster
Elgersma

theaardvark

If Wilson finishes this TC, then he is the heir apparent for Zach.  They don't invest this much time otherwise.  If he doesn't continue his development, they could go with Patterson in that role.

Depending on the Elgersma timeline coming north, he could end up on the AR for SY is Streveler doesn't work in that role.

I don't see Streveler as Zach's replacement, but he is effective in SY and changing up the looks.  And he just loves to play and be part of the team. How much the team thinks that he is worth, and depending on what the other QB's perform like, it could be his last training camp.  Not sure if he gets a call elsewhere, or even if that interests him.

Its nice to have a lot of options
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Quote from: theaardvark on May 01, 2025, 07:54:04 PMIf Wilson finishes this TC, then he is the heir apparent for Zach.  They don't invest this much time otherwise.  If he doesn't continue his development, they could go with Patterson in that role.

Depending on the Elgersma timeline coming north, he could end up on the AR for SY is Streveler doesn't work in that role.

I don't see Streveler as Zach's replacement, but he is effective in SY and changing up the looks.  And he just loves to play and be part of the team. How much the team thinks that he is worth, and depending on what the other QB's perform like, it could be his last training camp.  Not sure if he gets a call elsewhere, or even if that interests him.

Its nice to have a lot of options

Wilson beat out nobody in camp last year to make the team and all the Bombers have done since is sign and add as many quarterbacks as they can to this year's camp.

Maybe he'll win and job and maybe he won't but this year he'll actually have to earn it. All last year's "time investment" has earned him is a leg up in understanding the CFL. It's not insignificant but if he was thought of as a true heir apparent they're not signing 45 quarerbacks and drafting another one.

Wilson has accomplished less in the CFL than Dolegala, Patterson and Streveler

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on May 01, 2025, 08:26:32 PMWilson beat out nobody in camp last year to make the team and all the Bombers have done since is sign and add as many quarterbacks as they can to this year's camp.

Maybe he'll win and job and maybe he won't but this year he'll actually have to earn it. All last year's "time investment" has earned him is a leg up in understanding the CFL. It's not insignificant but if he was thought of as a true heir apparent they're not signing 45 quarerbacks and drafting another one.

Wilson has accomplished less in the CFL than Dolegala, Patterson and Streveler

Wilson came out of nowhere to outperform Eric Barriere last TC of which expectations were super high coming out of Eastern Wash. with a resume loaded with records and achievements.

I don't care what they do with all the other QB's they've accumulated behind Zach, I want to see them invest the most in Wilson and give him actual playing time, as he's the only potential Zach replacement I  see on the roster.  He's shown he has great physical tools, this season he has to demonstrate he has the mental tools to compliment them.

Blue In BC

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 01, 2025, 08:47:42 PMWilson came out of nowhere to outperform Eric Barriere last TC of which expectations were super high coming out of Eastern Wash. with a resume loaded with records and achievements.

I don't care what they do with all the other QB's they've accumulated behind Zach, I want to see them invest the most in Wilson and give him actual playing time, as he's the only potential Zach replacement I  see on the roster.  He's shown he has great physical tools, this season he has to demonstrate he has the mental tools to compliment them.

There was another QB that got a brief look. I wouldn't say Wilson didn't beat out any competition but it wasn't extreme.

I have no idea if he survives this TC and at the moment expect him to be on our PR. It's not a given though that he is even offered that.
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Pete

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on May 01, 2025, 07:29:23 PMRedoing my chart since I was already wrong:

Game day roster

Collaros
Patterson
Wilson

Released

Streveler (IR if he's still hurt or we want to be super nice)

Practice Roster
Elgersma
the only risk is losing Elgersma (if he even signs)
there's nothing wrong with
Collaros
Streveler
Elgersma

If Collaros got hurt Streveler would likely go in anyway. The third qb is basically holding the clipboar

Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: Blue In BC on May 01, 2025, 09:14:01 PMThere was another QB that got a brief look. I wouldn't say Wilson didn't beat out any competition but it wasn't extreme.

I have no idea if he survives this TC and at the moment expect him to be on our PR. It's not a given though that he is even offered that.

Barriere was such a disaster he didn't even make it to the end of camp. They brought in Darren Grainger when camp was almost almost finished (May 25). He stuck around a week.

I'm not saying Wilson isn't the guy but he absolutely had virtually zero actual competition.

towelie

Collaros
Patterson

Are definitely 1-2, minus something crazy in camp...

I genuinely believe Wilson and Strev battle for the SY/3 spot. Other being released.

Elgersma PR for this season