TC battles to watch

Started by Blue In BC, April 30, 2025, 03:29:32 PM

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Blue In BC

IMO this is going to be a transitional TC more so than in recent years. I'm not saying that is a bad thing. There are spots to be won. Barring injuries. This is stating the obvious to some degree but lets get the ball rolling.

1. LG: This could flip to an import but Wallace and Eli are in the mix. New rookie OL can't be written out either.

2. WIL: Wilson, J. Jones and Ayers are a great group. I have an expectation but this is a TBD.

3. CB: Parker is pencilled in. He might even by inked in to start. OTOH, we'll have a dozen imports looked at.

4. Safety: I think this is Griffin's to lose but it may be a battle. At worst he sticks as a DI.

5. QB: 6 candidates is more than I recall in any recent TC. We may see one released before TC?
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theaardvark

I didn't realize that Dolegala was still on the roster.  Have to wonder if he has been offered his release but want to come to camp.  Not sure if he'd get a look anywhere else right now.

It is a deep QB room, for sure, and Elgersma will be a wildcard depending on how his minicamps go.  Patterson has a low enough $SMS hit that he can sit on the IR with no issue for insurance, not sure he doesn't get picked off on the PR. 

Having 5-6 actual live arms in camp will be awesome.
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Blue In BC

Quote from: theaardvark on April 30, 2025, 03:46:07 PMI didn't realize that Dolegala was still on the roster.  Have to wonder if he has been offered his release but want to come to camp.  Not sure if he'd get a look anywhere else right now.

It is a deep QB room, for sure, and Elgersma will be a wildcard depending on how his minicamps go.  Patterson has a low enough $SMS hit that he can sit on the IR with no issue for insurance, not sure he doesn't get picked off on the PR. 

Having 5-6 actual live arms in camp will be awesome.

I'm not in favour of parking a QB with a $75K-$100K on the 1 game IR for most of the season. That's just not a sound business decision. Bombers haven't even had a QB on the PR for an extended period. Every team has the same issue and has a 4th QB that will be on speed dial at worst.

Elgersma is the wildcard and I'm not sure how that works out roster wise.

6 QB's in TC is not necessarily an advantage since none gets enough reps. TC is short and pre-season as well.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Blue In BC on April 30, 2025, 04:07:22 PMI'm not in favour of parking a QB with a $75K-$100K on the 1 game IR for most of the season. That's just not a sound business decision. Bombers haven't even had a QB on the PR for an extended period. Every team has the same issue and has a 4th QB that will be on speed dial at worst.

Elgersma is the wildcard and I'm not sure how that works out roster wise.

6 QB's in TC is not necessarily an advantage since none gets enough reps. TC is short and pre-season as well.

I suspect Strev. won't be ready for TC, thus Paterson. Dolegala is on his last chance to prove he belongs in the league, maybe he will surprise all.

Blue In BC

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on April 30, 2025, 06:09:29 PMI suspect Strev. won't be ready for TC, thus Paterson. Dolegala is on his last chance to prove he belongs in the league, maybe he will surprise all.

That covers a lot of ground if Strev is not ready. He may end up on 6 game IR to start the season. If that's true there will be increased pressure for both our # 2 and # 3 QB choices. Possibly different decisions based on Strev on IR. Upside as well as immediate readiness to play if necessary.

I liked what Wilson showed us in 2024 but now with a Canadian choice, the # 3 QB changes if we have an IR situation. We might actually see a QB on the PR to start the season.  We don't usually do that but we don't usually have 6 QB's either.

Dolegala may be on the outside regardless. Football is a tough business.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Blue In BC on April 30, 2025, 03:29:32 PM1. LG: This could flip to an import but Wallace and Eli are in the mix. New rookie OL can't be written out either.

So if Wallace is showing a bit worse than Randolph, do we still start Wallace, hoping he'll improve?  Obviously a NAT is always preferred.

But I want much better week 1 OL performance vs last season.  We can't go 2-4 like we did last time.
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dd

Quote from: TecnoGenius on May 01, 2025, 02:04:08 AMSo if Wallace is showing a bit worse than Randolph, do we still start Wallace, hoping he'll improve?  Obviously a NAT is always preferred.

But I want much better week 1 OL performance vs last season.  We can't go 2-4 like we did last time.
I guess it depends on our ratio situation. If there are no concerns, start the best player regardless of passport. If we're pressed to make ratio , Wallace may be pushed into service even if Randolph is the better player. We lost 2 big NAT performers in Ford and Dobson, I am hopeful Wallace can step into the guard position, he certainly has the size and weight, but does he have the technique...we'll see.

Sir Blue and Gold

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Quote from: Blue In BC on April 30, 2025, 06:16:20 PMThat covers a lot of ground if Strev is not ready. He may end up on 6 game IR to start the season. If that's true there will be increased pressure for both our # 2 and # 3 QB choices. Possibly different decisions based on Strev on IR. Upside as well as immediate readiness to play if necessary.

I liked what Wilson showed us in 2024 but now with a Canadian choice, the # 3 QB changes if we have an IR situation. We might actually see a QB on the PR to start the season.  We don't usually do that but we don't usually have 6 QB's either.

Dolegala may be on the outside regardless. Football is a tough business.

QB chat probably deserves it's own thread. Going to be super fun.

My early guess:

Game day roster

Collaros
Dolegala
Patterson

Released

Wilson
Streveler (IR if he's still hurt or we want to be super nice)

Practice Roster
Elgersma

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on May 01, 2025, 03:19:46 AMCollaros
Dolegala
Patterson

Nah.  Neither greenie QB is good at SY.

So you need Wilson as 3rd, or Strev if he's healthy.

Strev will hang around on 6GIR until he gets a chance to show if he can still do SY or not.

The only possible fly in the ointment is the new draft guy, but his body type and resume doesn't hint at a SY role.

One of the greenie guys will have to go.  Unless we want to hide some on IR and hold them as trade bait if/when the other teams get injuries.  Think TOR that year they held Collaros + like 26 other decent QBs.  (Of course, KW would never do that as it's KISS all day every day in WFC.)
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theaardvark

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on May 01, 2025, 03:19:46 AMQB chat probably deserves it's own thread. Going to be super fun.

My early guess:

Game day roster

Collaros
Dolegala
Patterson

Released

Wilson
Streveler (IR if he's still hurt or we want to be super nice)

Practice Roster
Elgersma


Collaros
Wilson
Streveler or Dolegala if Streveler can't go

IR Patterson

Elgersma in for Streveler/Dolegala, not gonna be ready to start the season likely, not going to survive the PR, he will be plucked.  Maybe IR for a couple weeks. 

I know we don't IR/PR QB's in the past, but this might be necessary.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: theaardvark on May 01, 2025, 04:18:15 AMI know we don't IR/PR QB's in the past, but this might be necessary.

Every other team does.  But Mafia likes to play it real clean.

I guess there's a first time for everything.  If we can hold a QB or 3 as tradebait, I wonder what's out there we may be interested in... Or a nice juicy early 1RDP in '26 to grab a top hoggie?  Hey, a guy can dream...
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Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: TecnoGenius on May 01, 2025, 03:59:46 AMNah.  Neither greenie QB is good at SY.

So you need Wilson as 3rd, or Strev if he's healthy.

Strev will hang around on 6GIR until he gets a chance to show if he can still do SY or not.

The only possible fly in the ointment is the new draft guy, but his body type and resume doesn't hint at a SY role.

One of the greenie guys will have to go.  Unless we want to hide some on IR and hold them as trade bait if/when the other teams get injuries.  Think TOR that year they held Collaros + like 26 other decent QBs.  (Of course, KW would never do that as it's KISS all day every day in WFC.)


Make your picks! Let's see your depth chart guess, week 1 :)

Blue In BC

#12
Another QB added to TC roster. IIRC he was on our neg list earlier.

https://3downnation.com/2025/05/01/winnipeg-blue-bombers-sign-tennessee-chattanooga-qb-chase-artopoeus/

Again, I thought we wouldn't have 6 QB's in TC. Now potentially 7. Injury to Strev seems more probable he's headed for IR to start the season. It does make me think we release a QB soon.

The plot thickens.
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Sir Blue and Gold

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Quote from: Blue In BC on May 01, 2025, 02:01:39 PMAnother QB added to TC roster. IIRC he was on our neg list earlier.

https://3downnation.com/2025/05/01/winnipeg-blue-bombers-sign-tennessee-chattanooga-qb-chase-artopoeus/

Again, I thought we wouldn't have 6 QB's in TC. Now potentially 7. Injury to Strev seems more probable he's headed for IR to start the season. It does make me think we release a QB soon.

The plot thickens.

Could be - that's a ton of arms. It's also reasonable to think two steps ahead at the QB position - if this is Zach's last year you need to have his replacement THIS year. and based on the Blue Bombers actions I'd say this is as big a tell as you're going to get. We haven't seen this much attention to backup QB probably ever, under Walters and O'Shea.

I think we're going to take the three most talented QBs behind Collaros (stashing one on the PR if possible or IR as a last resort) and next year we'll have an open competition for QB one.

Blue In BC

3rd down reports that Streveler is healthy and ready for TC. We'll know soon enough.
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