TC battles to watch

[TecnoGenius]

Collaros didn't say he was good. Iirc, he was surprised he was sent back in.

Read the quote again, better.

Actually, everyone is misremembering.  MOS addressed this at length in the post-game couple of pressers.  He said he asked Zach if he was ok and Zach said he was ok.  And that was good enough for MOS.  I remember it clearly because it had a tiny whiff of MOS throwing Zach under the bus, which he never does.  Ever.  (The normal MOS reaction here used to be "I decided by myself to keep Zach in, no one convinced me of anything".)

A Zach presser had Zach admit he said to the team he wouldn't be able to throw hard and that they'd have to "come back to the ball" (but no one did, so who knows how true that is).

And all of this is well and good, we can accept Zach coming in for that first series, but as soon as he badly underthrew the mid-range route for an INT MOS should have ignored anything Zach was telling him and then decided based purely what he saw at that moment.

Which leads to my point which was if Wilson had been Tom Brady on his 2 series, then Zach INTs once or twice, then 100% Wilson would have been put in.  But Wilson looked meh, and thus Zach stayed in.  Which arguably was an ok choice.  (The fact being there probably was no good choice at that point.)

The biggest disappointment of all of this is Wilson didn't step up at that moment and be the next Kelly.  He does that and he'd be a starter (somewhere) in '25, or certainly '26.

[TecnoGenius]

That's a good example of how things have been re backup qb.complete waste of time. I guess counter is Brown.

Ya, but Dru's first big chance in a non-PS non-garbage-season game he stepped in for at least a quarter and looked amazing and won the game for us.  I believe that was in year 2?

Dom never looked that good.  I recall he had a couple of chances where he lucked upon really deep TDs.  But he never had that magic that Dru showed us.

It's kind of like Crum vs Alexander.  One was/is so-so, the other instantly stood out as a league starter.

Re Wilson... I think he's very good at short yardage. That alone should get him a spot shouldn't it?

If Strev is still hurt, yes.  I would say Wilson looked good at SY, not Prukop level good though.  But he's had very few attempts, so hard to tell for sure.

The thing is the best SY are always guys who have given up on starting and embraced their SY role.  Wilson is still a starter hopeful.  I'm not sure he wants to be "just a SY" QB.

In any event, we can easily PR Wilson because no one else will take him.

[markf]

Ya, but Dru's first big chance in a non-PS non-garbage-season game he stepped in for at least a quarter and looked amazing and won the game for us.  I believe that was in year 2?

Sorry...I meant to say that Dru, was our success story at bringing along a qb, while Dom is the failure. Sometimes  Hard to express myself clearlynon a message board

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Actually, everyone is misremembering.  MOS addressed this at length in the post-game couple of pressers.  He said he asked Zach if he was ok and Zach said he was ok.  And that was good enough for MOS.  I remember it clearly because it had a tiny whiff of MOS throwing Zach under the bus, which he never does.  Ever.  (The normal MOS reaction here used to be "I decided by myself to keep Zach in, no one convinced me of anything".)

A Zach presser had Zach admit he said to the team he wouldn't be able to throw hard and that they'd have to "come back to the ball" (but no one did, so who knows how true that is).

And all of this is well and good, we can accept Zach coming in for that first series, but as soon as he badly underthrew the mid-range route for an INT MOS should have ignored anything Zach was telling him and then decided based purely what he saw at that moment.

Which leads to my point which was if Wilson had been Tom Brady on his 2 series, then Zach INTs once or twice, then 100% Wilson would have been put in.  But Wilson looked meh, and thus Zach stayed in.  Which arguably was an ok choice.  (The fact being there probably was no good choice at that point.)

The biggest disappointment of all of this is Wilson didn't step up at that moment and be the next Kelly.  He does that and he'd be a starter (somewhere) in '25, or certainly '26.

Can't really compare Wilson to Chad Kelly who competed in Punt, Pass and Kick competitions as a youth and became the national champion four times before becoming a nationally recruited QB coming out of HS. Say what you like about his personality, Kelly was forged by competition at a very young age and isn't likely to falter when the the spotlight shines brightest.  A couple of other decent athletes that grew up in the spotlight, Tiger Woods, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Wayne Gretzky, if they can keep their **** together long enough without coming apart, they usually perform well under pressure.  Johnny Football didn't quite make it.

[dd]

To me, Wilson doesn't have it, rather he has the deer in the headlights I m lost look in his eyes when he's on the field. Alexander on the other hand, from the opening snap, had his head held high and walked with a swagger and attacked the situation vs crumble under it. Night and day. If Strev was healthy, not sure we'd even have Wilson on the roster, given we have Patterson, and as soon as Strev is back, Wilson will be gone.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

To me, Wilson doesn't have it, rather he has the deer in the headlights I m lost look in his eyes when he's on the field. Alexander on the other hand, from the opening snap, had his head held high and walked with a swagger and attacked the situation vs crumble under it. Night and day. If Strev was healthy, not sure we'd even have Wilson on the roster, given we have Patterson, and as soon as Strev is back, Wilson will be gone.

So who is your future QB, Strev?  Patterson couldn't even convince the Riders to keep him, and he had half a season starting to show he had the right stuff.

[Pete]

currently we dont have a qb to take over possibly next year, I dont know if the plan is to go the free agent route or what. I donr know what kind of options there are currently. Maybe after nfl training camp?

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

currently we dont have a qb to take over possibly next year, I dont know if the plan is to go the free agent route or what. I donr know what kind of options there are currently. Maybe after nfl training camp?

In modern times has there ever been a starting QB in the NFL that got cut and continued their career a year or two later in the CFL?  I can't think of any.  I recall Chris Jones tried with Vince Young in 2017 but he flopped out in TC.

[TecnoGenius]

So who is your future QB, Strev?  Patterson couldn't even convince the Riders to keep him, and he had half a season starting to show he had the right stuff.

Our Zach-has-retired future QB?  He's not yet in the barn, or (if unicorns exist) he's one of the rookies.

I think what we've forged is a room that could probably keep us .500 should Zach get hurt.  It has nothing to do with the Zachless future.

I will mention that say what you want about Strev and his throwing mechanics, but he's great fun to watch as a starter.  I loved the games he started in '18.  He should get you .500 and he'll put butts in seats.  That said, we should hope this isn't what transpires!

[LXTSN]

I think we need to cover 3 different roles.
>Back up vet QB that can win us games if ZC is out with an injury.
>Short yardage QB for sneaks.
>QB of the future

I think Patterson is the vet that we need backing up Zach. Of the guys on the roster, he's done the most and had the most success. You could go back to Strevler and we could be about 50-50 but our passing game takes a big hit.

I like Wilson as the short yardage QB. Strevler could do this as well, and he's been good at it, but I'd rather keep Wilson on the roster at this point of their careers.

QB of the future has to be Elgersma. I could also see Wilson sticking around and becoming the starter when Zach retires, but all eyes are on Elgersma to be the next Canadian QB!

My dream lineup:
QB1 - Zach
QB2 - Patterson
QB3 - Wilson
PRQB - Elgersma

My realistic guess is that Strevler is in the QB3 slot instead of Wilson.

[CrazyCanuck89]

I think we need to cover 3 different roles.
>Back up vet QB that can win us games if ZC is out with an injury.
>Short yardage QB for sneaks.
>QB of the future

I think Patterson is the vet that we need backing up Zach. Of the guys on the roster, he's done the most and had the most success. You could go back to Strevler and we could be about 50-50 but our passing game takes a big hit.

I like Wilson as the short yardage QB. Strevler could do this as well, and he's been good at it, but I'd rather keep Wilson on the roster at this point of their careers.

QB of the future has to be Elgersma. I could also see Wilson sticking around and becoming the starter when Zach retires, but all eyes are on Elgersma to be the next Canadian QB!

My dream lineup:
QB1 - Zach
QB2 - Patterson
QB3 - Wilson
PRQB - Elgersma

My realistic guess is that Strevler is in the QB3 slot instead of Wilson.

Elgersma is going to make the roster.  Bombers aren't going to take the chance of someone else poaches him.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Elgersma is going to make the roster.  Bombers aren't going to take the chance of someone else poaches him.

Don't know if that is necessary, poaching isn't that common anymore and all they'd have to do to avoid losing him is offer him a roster spot and throw him on the 1 game IR for a game or two, the choice to go or not would be his.  Besides, every other team is up to their necks in QB projects early in the season, not too many would be gazing over the fence admiring their neighbour's cow when their barn is still full.

[Blue In BC]

Don't know if that is necessary, poaching isn't that common anymore and all they'd have to do to avoid losing him is offer him a roster spot and throw him on the 1 game IR for a game or two, the choice to go or not would be his.  Besides, every other team is up to their necks in QB projects early in the season, not too many would be gazing over the fence admiring their neighbour's cow when their barn is still full.

Yeah it's an interesting problem and I'm not exactly sure how they handle it. I'm also not sure when he shows up if in fact he shows up at all in 2025.

[Jesse]

Elgersma is going to make the roster.  Bombers aren't going to take the chance of someone else poaches him.

It would be shocking to me if he was on the AR.

[Blue In BC]

Elks released OG Jack- Kurdyla who was projected as a starter. Should we consider bringing him to TC? Or is this a paper move for a late arrival to their TC.

Elks also signed ex Bomber RB Rosery and added receiver Tachinski we had discussed.

It's still a revolving door in Edmonton.