Rider at Redblacks GDT 6:30pm

TecnoGenius · August 09, 2024, 04:57:59 AM

Quote from: bomb squad on August 09, 2024, 02:54:33 AMSo that will either help us or hurt us. Stay tuned.

SSK getting just 1 season point for this game will massively help us. Command desperately wanted to give this game to SSK. I think everyone is trying hard to make sure it's not WPG in the GC, so every challenger to us has to have a leg up before we start winning everything. (a bit tinfoil, but not too far off!)

TecnoGenius · August 09, 2024, 04:58:27 AM

Quote from: Blue In BC on August 09, 2024, 02:55:37 AMOT games never seem to work out in our favour. Whether we're playing in them or teams we want to win.

'21 GC worked quite nicely

TecnoGenius · August 09, 2024, 05:00:05 AM

Quote from: J5V on August 09, 2024, 03:21:04 AMRight. Clearly illegal. I was actually surprised they showed a replay which isolated the pick. I was even more surprised that neither Rod Smith nor Duane Forde picked up on it. They just said the Rider receiver made the defender fall down. Well, duh! Yeah, he sure did, and it was intentional. Who's responsible for training these officials?

A fine line between a rub and an OPI pick. When a TD R is wide open like that and someone's butt-down on the turf, you look at the tape for why. Command is supposed to auto-review, and Dyce could have challenged, but everyone dropped the ball.

TecnoGenius · August 09, 2024, 05:02:20 AM

No one mentioned Dyce's on-camera meltdown post-game?? Who's the bald OTT guy in civvies he's yelling at? He's freaking out, and Dyce never freaks out.

Is it possible Dyce wanted to go for it on 3rd & 3 and that bald guy is their STC and he overrode him and sent the FG unit out?? I reaaaaaaaaaaly want to get the inside scoop on this one. That is just wild if that's the case.

I can't think of any other reason Dyce would be melting down like that. Who here can lip read?

J5V · August 09, 2024, 05:05:54 AM

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 09, 2024, 05:00:05 AMA fine line between a rub and an OPI pick. When a TD R is wide open like that and someone's butt-down on the turf, you look at the tape for why. Command is supposed to auto-review, and Dyce could have challenged, but everyone dropped the ball.

Dyce's challenge would have probably been better spent there than where he eventually spent it.

J5V · August 09, 2024, 05:10:06 AM

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 09, 2024, 05:02:20 AMNo one mentioned Dyce's on-camera meltdown post-game?? Who's the bald OTT guy in civvies he's yelling at? He's freaking out, and Dyce never freaks out.

Is it possible Dyce wanted to go for it on 3rd & 3 and that bald guy is their STC and he overrode him and sent the FG unit out?? I reaaaaaaaaaaly want to get the inside scoop on this one. That is just wild if that's the case.

I can't think of any other reason Dyce would be melting down like that. Who here can lip read?

Well, third and three is clearly a kick-the-field-goal call, isn't it? If you go for it there and don't get it, you'll be roasted.

TecnoGenius · August 09, 2024, 05:14:41 AM

Quote from: J5V on August 09, 2024, 05:10:06 AMWell, third and three is clearly a kick-the-field-goal call, isn't it? If you go for it there and don't get it, you'll be roasted.

You would think. But remember when Lapo was OTT HC and he went for 2PAT to win instead of the 1PAT to tie? Some coaches feel they need to gamble to have a shot in the game or standings.

What you say is truth, but I really can't think of any other reason Dyce is going mental on his fellow (I assume) coaches and some other coaches are actually restraining Dyce!! When does that happen?! What could cause that? It started early, too.

I thought at first he was yelling at a player, but later it was clear his beef was with bald-head guy. I'll try to go find out who that guy is.

Insubordination in-game would definitely count as grounds for a chewing out.

gobombersgo · August 09, 2024, 05:33:31 AM

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 09, 2024, 05:14:41 AMYou would think. But remember when Lapo was OTT HC and he went for 2PAT to win instead of the 1PAT to tie? Some coaches feel they need to gamble to have a shot in the game or standings.

What you say is truth, but I really can't think of any other reason Dyce is going mental on his fellow (I assume) coaches and some other coaches are actually restraining Dyce!! When does that happen?! What could cause that? It started early, too.

I thought at first he was yelling at a player, but later it was clear his beef was with bald-head guy. I'll try to go find out who that guy is.

Insubordination in-game would definitely count as grounds for a chewing out.

Apparently Dyce was upset at someone without credentials on the sidelines who was yelling at the team.

gobombersgo · August 09, 2024, 05:55:33 AM

Lol. I wonder why the league didnt include the overtime RTP call in the highlight package:

TecnoGenius · August 09, 2024, 05:56:01 AM

Diving deeper into the Dyce freakout:

1st shot: Dyce is agitated and trying to go after someone and a coach that looks like Nate Taylor (RB coach) is actually physically restraining him, trying to talk him out of something hasty. Pimpleton comes in to help hold him too.

Bald guy in background is pushing back another guy (Mr. Beard & Mustache) holding a backpack or something. He looks drunk! That dude does not match any picture of a coach or office Redblack. A reporter or photographer or even a fan who got on the field early?

Right next to him is some CFL dude with a CFL hat (NOT Redblacks hat!) talking on cell phone ("Phone Dude"), which is a bit weird, following Mr. Beard & Mustache. A bunch of players (Rhymes, Dubois, Taylor, Ruby) follow him off the screen to the right like they aren't happy either.

2nd shot: They cut to the wide shot of a bunch of OTT players being held back by refs. Booth says it's SSKvOTT but no SSK guys are in picture. But Rhymes and Ruby are in this shot looking and yelling towards the SSK area, I guess. But Mr. Beard & Mustache and Phone Guy are nowhere to be seen. So maybe Backpack Dude and Phone Guy were SSK dudes buggering back off to their area?

3rd shot: Some OTT player right at the wall of refs yells "I don't know who the bleep that is, get him the bleep outta here".

4th shot: Dyce screaming at bald hat guy (Phone Dude?) even though a couple of minutes have passed already, looking for explanations. Phone Dude trying to calm him down with the "stay calm" hand motion.

So I guess not a STC gone rogue, but maybe a drunk Backpack Dude was related to the SSK team somehow and was stirring up trouble in the RB area? But why keep flipping out for so long? Very weird.

I have a still shot of the part of the instigator's face if anyone cares. There's almost no good glimpse of this guy.

I couldn't find a match for his face on SSK coach/staff site. Maybe it's just some media bum (who would probably have a backpack) or some rando fan.

Still, doesn't explain why Dyce is freaking his mind out for multiple minutes to the point of having to be restrained! Very weird!

J5V · August 09, 2024, 05:56:19 AM

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 09, 2024, 05:14:41 AMYou would think. But remember when Lapo was OTT HC and he went for 2PAT to win instead of the 1PAT to tie? Some coaches feel they need to gamble to have a shot in the game or standings.

What you say is truth, but I really can't think of any other reason Dyce is going mental on his fellow (I assume) coaches and some other coaches are actually restraining Dyce!! When does that happen?! What could cause that? It started early, too.

I thought at first he was yelling at a player, but later it was clear his beef was with bald-head guy. I'll try to go find out who that guy is.

Insubordination in-game would definitely count as grounds for a chewing out.

Very interesting. Please keep us informed of your discoveries.

TecnoGenius · August 09, 2024, 05:59:10 AM

Quote from: gobombersgo on August 09, 2024, 05:33:31 AMApparently Dyce was upset at someone without credentials on the sidelines who was yelling at the team.

Where'd you get the info? Funny, you beat my post by a few mins, I guess I wasted my time LOL. At least your info jives with my interpretation.

Ya, I don't want to be accosted by drunk rando fans either.

The security was a bit of a mess at that game with its multiple endings. They were letting fans on the field already with like 15 mins of game left to play because of the double O/T and the game having more endings than Lord Of The Rings Return Of The King!

Thanks for the post, and any more info you can provide.

DM83 · August 09, 2024, 06:05:39 AM

Dyce said it on. Post game interview with TSN

gobombersgo · August 09, 2024, 06:13:51 AM

From TSN Reporter Kenzie Lalonde:

Dyce discusses the commotion on the sidelines at the end of the #Redblacks #Roughriders game:

"There was someone talking to our players in a way that I didn't like, someone who I believe didn't have any credentials...i'm not going to let anyone talk to me or my guys like that."

TecnoGenius · August 09, 2024, 06:22:53 AM

Quote from: DM83 on August 09, 2024, 06:05:39 AMDyce said it on. Post game interview with TSN

Thanks!! I'll continue on into SC and check it out!

Quote from: gobombersgo on August 09, 2024, 06:13:51 AM"There was someone talking to our players in a way that I didn't like, someone who I believe didn't have any credentials...i'm not going to let anyone talk to me or my guys like that."

Wow, hand it to Dyce for not taking any crap! He comes across as a nice oldster, but turns out he's full of fire & vinegar. Cool.

If those coaches weren't restraining him he was going to go to town on that drunk.

What a strange situation. Credit to Lalonde & TSN for digging into it. Normally CFL tries to cover this stuff up. Hey, the CFL could use some crazy WWE type theatrics! Helps the ratings.

If that was MOS I bet he just laughs at the guy and tells him to bug off.