Ricky Walker

Started by Pigskin, August 04, 2023, 05:53:26 PM

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Pigskin

Walker, with another very good game tonight. After his 11th start, it looks like he should have 21 DTs and 4 Sacks. He just keeps getting better each game.
Don't go through life looking in the rearview mirror.

pjrocksmb

Not good enough some worried.  Beast.

Lincoln Locomotive

Quote from: pjrocksmb on August 25, 2023, 02:41:38 PM
Not good enough some worried.  Beast.
To be fair he had a slow start....Doug Brown who knows a thing or two about DTs commented on his poor play earlier in the season.    Last night Brown recognized the improvement in both Walker and Lawson as well as Thomas.
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Pigskin

Walker has been pretty solid all season. Lawson and Thomas not so much. Both Lawson and Thomas had there best game of the season last night. With Lawson and Thomas playing better, Walker didn't have to do all the heavy lifting.
Don't go through life looking in the rearview mirror.

pjrocksmb

All three be as advertised.  Lawson and Thomas are decent.  Walker been good.  Brown was wrong about the DL.  None issue handled internally.  Yes he knows his stuff but he was hunting for weakness here.

ModAdmin

Quote from: pjrocksmb on August 25, 2023, 09:55:02 PM
All three be as advertised.  Lawson and Thomas are decent.  Walker been good.  Brown was wrong about the DL.  None issue handled internally.  Yes he knows his stuff but he was hunting for weakness here.

No, you are presenting opinion as fact. Brown is much better equipped with experience and knowledge to be deemed "wrong" as you state. Then stating Brown is looking for "weakness" is a pure assumption on your part. When you tell others they are too harsh at times perhaps think about your post quoted above. Just a thought.
"You can't let praise or criticism get to you. It's a weakness to get caught up in either one." - John Wooden

BLUEBOMBER

I believe the guy that is exciting to watch and has a lot more upside potential is Cam Lawson.

pjrocksmb

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Quote from: ModAdmin on August 25, 2023, 10:09:08 PM
No, you are presenting opinion as fact. Brown is much better equipped with experience and knowledge to be deemed "wrong" as you state. Then stating Brown is looking for "weakness" is a pure assumption on your part. When you tell others they are too harsh at times perhaps think about your post quoted above. Just a thought.
I presented my opinion on Brown's take on the DL, presented my opinion on the play of three specific DLmen. I disagree that I presented my opinion as a fact.  You are nit picking a bit here and sounds like just frustrated that I call people out when I believe they are being harsh.  I fail to see your connection there.  I believe I just provided a strong argument against what Brown said.

The fact is Brown was overly worried and critical about the DL and the group is close to the top in sacks, we have a lot of knock downs and my opinion is that we have a top tier DL with some real studs.  Brown knows more than us correct.  He knows the DL position as good as any and was simply proven wrong imo thus far.  I remember him going on about the weakness on our DL early season on the radio.

Brown is paid to generate content and a story and he tried but was off the mark imo.  It will be more telling how it all played out and how many wings he is due at the end of the year but at this moment our DL is one of our core strengths and only to improve as our young guns develop and we get healthy. 

We are a top 3 team and the best overall IMO. I believe the play of our DL is one of the reasons we are successful.  It's OK to poke a little fun at Brown, razz him and have a laugh about it.  I  the end he will be right more times than wrong.

I'll eat a crow Sammie if the DL fails as Brown predicted.  Until then, the birds on his door step.  When it's cold out we will determine who get the lions share.

What's your opinion on our DL, Brown's assessment, Walker or others? I would like he hear more about your opinion on the DL and less about the tone of my post lol.

On another topic, correct me if I am wrong but I believe you had the track record of being a wee bit harsh on Rose all of last year on the GDT's (when he got roasted a few times).  I am not sure which mod that was. My memory is bad.


Quote from: BLUEBOMBER on August 25, 2023, 10:49:24 PM
I believe the guy that is exciting to watch and has a lot more upside potential is Cam Lawson.
Agree.  Great game yesterday.  Nice low and slow development.

ModAdmin

Quote from: pjrocksmb on August 25, 2023, 11:01:57 PM
I presented my opinion on Brown's take on the DL, presented my opinion on the play of three specific DLmen. I disagree that I presented my opinion as a fact.  You are nit picking a bit here and sounds like just frustrated that I call people out when I believe they are being harsh.  I fail to see your connection there.  I believe I just provided a strong argument against what Brown said.

The fact is Brown was overly worried and critical about the DL and the group is close to the top in sacks, we have a lot of knock downs and my opinion is that we have a top tier DL with some real studs.  Brown knows more than us correct.  He knows the DL position as good as any and was simply proven wrong imo thus far.  I remember him going on about the weakness on our DL early season on the radio.

Brown is paid to generate content and a story and he tried but was off the mark imo.  It will be more telling how it all played out and how many wings he is due at the end of the year but at this moment our DL is one of our core strengths and only to improve as our young guns develop and we get healthy. 

We are a top 3 team and the best overall IMO. I believe the play of our DL is one of the reasons we are successful.  It's OK to poke a little fun at Brown, razz him and have a laugh about it.  I  the end he will be right more times than wrong.

I'll eat a crow Sammie if the DL fails as Brown predicted.  Until then, the birds on his door step.  When it's cold out we will determine who get the lions share.

What's your opinion on our DL, Brown's assessment, Walker or others? I would like he hear more about your opinion on the DL and less about the tone of my post lol.

On another topic, correct me if I am wrong but I believe you had the track record of being a wee bit harsh on Rose all of last year on the GDT's (when he got roasted a few times).  I am not sure which mod that was. My memory is bad.

Agree.  Great game yesterday.  Nice low and slow development.

Here is what I think.  I think it is unfair and actually insulting to suggest Brown "is paid to generate and a story".  That suggestion reeks of an accusation he bends or manipulates the truth with his reporting and commentary.

I think your comment " It's OK to poke a little fun at Brown, razz him and have a laugh about it" is a late attempt to rationalize your earlier, what I believe, erroneous assessment of his ability to know more than any of us about player assessment and Dline performance.

I will cautiously take his view - especially on Dline issues - over just about anyone on this forum or any other forum

With regard to Rose, I don't recall having any "track record" on him last year.  I will say that I didnt feel he had a stellar year.  He was beat too many times on explosion plays and that may have been due to injuries but I just don't have the knowledge to say definitively if that was the reason.  I do believe Rose did not have a great or good season last year.

I'll stick with my original thoughts on your earlier post about Brown.
"You can't let praise or criticism get to you. It's a weakness to get caught up in either one." - John Wooden

pjrocksmb

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Quote from: ModAdmin on August 26, 2023, 12:29:02 AM
Here is what I think.  I think it is unfair and actually insulting to suggest Brown "is paid to generate and a story".  That suggestion reeks of an accusation he bends or manipulates the truth with his reporting and commentary.

I think your comment " It's OK to poke a little fun at Brown, razz him and have a laugh about it" is a late attempt to rationalize your earlier, what I believe, erroneous assessment of his ability to know more than any of us about player assessment and Dline performance.

I will cautiously take his view - especially on Dline issues - over just about anyone on this forum or any other forum

With regard to Rose, I don't recall having any "track record" on him last year.  I will say that I didnt feel he had a stellar year.  He was beat too many times on explosion plays and that may have been due to injuries but I just don't have the knowledge to say definitively if that was the reason.  I do believe Rose did not have a great or good season last year.

I'll stick with my original thoughts on your earlier post about Brown.
I think you are really stretching here.  We can agree to disagree.  You have presented zero specific opinions on our DL, other than agreeing with Brown.  What's your grade of our DL as a whole? I say B+.  My only concern is our run D at times.  Lights out yesterday.

I'm not trying to insult Brown.  He is paid to talk and share his opinion, which I believe has been debunked thus far based on the play of our DL, our stats and incredible record.

Not trying to twist anything.  Simply don't agree with his assessment.  I think you are diving a wee bit deep into a nothing burger.  Again best to focus on our DL not me.  A wee bit over analyzing ever word I post here imo.

I trust Brown's opinion and value him as a local radio celebrity and generally find his content insightful and on point.  Not on this one  issue though.  I like to have a little fun on here.  I think you are taking this a little to seriously.

ModAdmin

Quote from: pjrocksmb on August 26, 2023, 12:32:03 AM
I think you are really stretching here.  We can agree to disagree.  You have presented zero specific opinions on our DL, other than agreeing with Brown.  What's your grade of our DL as a whole.  I say B+.  My only concern is our run D at times.  Lights out yesterday.

I'm not trying to insult Brown.
  He is paid to talk and share his opinion, which I believe has been debunked thus far based on the play of our DL, our stats and incredible record.

Not trying to twist anything.  Simply don't agree with his assessment.  I think you are diving a wee bit deep into a nothing burger.  Again best to focus on our DL not me.

You could have fooled me.
"You can't let praise or criticism get to you. It's a weakness to get caught up in either one." - John Wooden

pjrocksmb

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Quote from: ModAdmin on August 26, 2023, 12:37:32 AM
You could have fooled me.
I am allowed to disagree with Brown on a single subject without being accused of insulting him.

I have been fine with our DL since day one.  He hasn't.  That about sums it up.

Sir Blue and Gold

Doug Brown is obviously knowledgeable but a couple things about that segment:

1 - He was quite surprised that the defensive line has a read on their interior stunts. He had no idea they were doing that and later seemed to be trying to understand why. He has been out of the game awhile.

2 - Later in the post-game, O'Shea said Lawson was playing through an injury that hampered his early season which is something that Brown wouldn't have known when he was making his early critiques.

Does Brown know a ton about evaluating defensive lineman? Yes. Is he now a reporter who may not have all the information? Also yes. It is positive he seems defensive line improvement though. That can only be good for us.

pjrocksmb

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on August 26, 2023, 01:48:24 PM
Doug Brown is obviously knowledgeable but a couple things about that segment:

1 - He was quite surprised that the defensive line has a read on their interior stunts. He had no idea they were doing that and later seemed to be trying to understand why. He has been out of the game awhile.

2 - Later in the post-game, O'Shea said Lawson was playing through an injury that hampered his early season which is something that Brown wouldn't have known when he was making his early critiques.

Does Brown know a ton about evaluating defensive lineman? Yes. Is he now a reporter who may not have all the information? Also yes. It is positive he seems defensive line improvement though. That can only be good for us.
Some interesting insights there, thanks.

Blue In BC

I didn't read or hear exactly what Brown said. I was under the impression he was discussing not having a true 7th DL as a DI. I don't think there is a concern about our starters.
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