Paul Lapolice Fired

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TBURGESS

I think MOS is the only rookie CFL HC to get a 3rd year after missing the playoffs for his first two years. Maybe stats junkie can find me another.
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Quote from: TBURGESS on October 02, 2022, 07:21:07 PM
I think MOS is the only rookie CFL HC to get a 3rd year after missing the playoffs for his first two years. Maybe stats junkie can find me another.
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Quote from: Waffler on October 02, 2022, 04:34:48 PM
Sorry Linc, I gotta object about this part.  He had 2 former head coaches with him in Ott to bounce stuff off and still they looked bad. In Winnipeg his first time, he had former HC Kavis Reed that he relied on quite a bit. You'd see those too talking often after practice.   He had to win this time or at least look they were getting better. Didn't happen even in a weak eastern conference. I just think he's used up his 9 lives now as HC. There just is no more upside to Lapo as head guy.

I will say that with Masoli they would have won more. You could argue Marino cost Lapo his job. Reminds me of Cahill's famous remark "when Leon slipped, I fell".
Fair enough....he did have MOS as a head coach in 2019....or was he gone already?    Let's just say he's been around enough coaches to know how to HC....yet he doesn't seem to have IT
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Quote from: Lincoln Locomotive on October 02, 2022, 07:52:22 PM
Fair enough....he did have MOS as a head coach in 2019....or was he gone already?    Let's just say he's been around enough coaches to know how to HC....yet he doesn't seem to have IT
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Quote from: TBURGESS on October 02, 2022, 07:21:07 PM
I think MOS is the only rookie CFL HC to get a 3rd year after missing the playoffs for his first two years. Maybe stats junkie can find me another.

Someone on TSN pointed out a difference between the East and West divisions in the last 20 years has been coaching and regime stability.  The Eastern teams have been more likely to dump their coaching staff and start again over again more often.  I don't know if this is true or not with so much recycling going on, seems to me the only stable regimes have been in Calgary, Winnipeg and Hamilton in recent years.

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Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 02, 2022, 03:26:17 PM
There are thousands of college level football programs in the US, I think you underestimate his opportunities and his connections.

For sure, but a lot of them are on the level of intramural teams.

The level that Lapo would have to go to in order to get a foothold....I don't think that's what he wants to do at this point in his life/career.
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Quote from: TBURGESS on October 02, 2022, 07:21:07 PM
I think MOS is the only rookie CFL HC to get a 3rd year after missing the playoffs for his first two years. Maybe stats junkie can find me another.

I'm fairly certain that O'Shea, Walters and Miller all came in and were explicitly given extensive rope and more leeway than usual.  There was a conscious understanding that the past 30 years were a disaster and we needed to patiently re-vamp the entire organization from the ground up. It's kind of an apples to oranges comparison to say O'Shea got more time than most other head coaches. He did - but that was by design.

Jesse

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 02, 2022, 09:44:08 PM
Someone on TSN pointed out a difference between the East and West divisions in the last 20 years has been coaching and regime stability.  The Eastern teams have been more likely to dump their coaching staff and start again over again more often.  I don't know if this is true or not with so much recycling going on, seems to me the only stable regimes have been in Calgary, Winnipeg and Hamilton in recent years.

Someone else pointed out that most of the terrible teams have HC who are also their team's coordinator.

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Lapo is a great OC, and decent deadpan color  guy on TSN when he was there.  He absolutely knows the x's and o's. 
In contrast, I would guess Pinball Clements leaves the X's and O's to  his coordinators, and he is the guy that fires up the troops.

I firmly believe game time adjustments win or lose you games.  I don't believe I ever saw Lapo huddle up with the OC, QB coach or even talk or smile with a player.

I have a playbook of 30 plays.  In reality we ran only about 5 or 6 predominently, and the others were situational, while some I loved, on paper, but didn't seem to work in reality.  So, apo always dicking around with a clipboard struck me as stupid.  Anyway,  too bad  he never got a chance with a real team, GM and scouts.

He seemed to take it well.

Good Luck!  There should be job openings in Edmonton, Montreal, maybe  Sask.  I am sure many management types respect his skills.  Good Luck!

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Quote from: Jets on October 03, 2022, 03:26:12 PM
I'm fairly certain that O'Shea, Walters and Miller all came in and were explicitly given extensive rope and more leeway than usual.  There was a conscious understanding that the past 30 years were a disaster and we needed to patiently re-vamp the entire organization from the ground up. It's kind of an apples to oranges comparison to say O'Shea got more time than most other head coaches. He did - but that was by design.
This was my point as well....building a perennial contender vs. going all out in free agency etc. takes patience and a commitment.    The Bombers made that commitment and signing Zach8 was like putting the cherry on top of the cake!
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If he can take the paycut, I can see him back in SSK as OC. Maas has stunk that place out...

I can't see any other team giving him a shot at HC, even if he gives up the OC hat. 

Had he hired Khari as his OC, things might be different today.
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Or next year reverse that.  Khari could hire Lapo

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Quote from: theaardvark on October 03, 2022, 05:01:39 PM
If he can take the paycut, I can see him back in SSK as OC. Maas has stunk that place out...

I can't see any other team giving him a shot at HC, even if he gives up the OC hat. 

Had he hired Khari as his OC, things might be different today.

Nah. Jones was still in Montreal when the season started, anyway.

LaPolice is just not head coach material. His record with two different teams is evidence enough of that.
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Was he HC and OC, when he was here.
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Quote from: Pigskin on October 03, 2022, 05:49:18 PM
Was he HC and OC, when he was here.

We had OC's, but Lapo was the play-caller.
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