SOS LaPo!

Started by Strevy, September 01, 2025, 04:56:44 AM

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Sir Blue and Gold

#30
Quote from: Waffler on September 04, 2025, 03:35:56 PMNot saying to bring back Lapo but something in the Free Press today casting yet more shade on Hogan.

You could feel the frustration inside the Bombers locker room after their loss. While losing a close game to their biggest rival is always tough, this felt deeper. Quarterback Zach Collaros was visibly seething, offering one- and two-word answers in his post-game presser. Though he was diplomatic, you could tell he was bothered, especially when he seemed to object to the two-point conversion play call, implying it was a "play every team runs" and therefore predictable. Running back Brady Oliveira also bit his tongue, but his displeasure was palpable, particularly with his mere five carries. For a team built on a strong running game, that number is a head-scratcher. With Jason Hogan in his first season as offensive co-ordinator, there were bound to be growing pains. The question now is whether this is just a bump in the road or if something more serious is brewing within the locker room.

Totally predictable and you could see this coming from a mile away. It's got to be hard for Zach to know infinitely more about football and running a CFL offense than the guy calling the plays. It would work if they were having a lot of success but if they're not it's going to hard to keep that together. It's just common sense/human nature.

theaardvark

Can someone please either do the stats, or show me where tehy are to do, showing our production on offense relative to this time last year.

I remember hearing on the coaches show that we are actually a point or two ahead of last year...
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Blueforlife

#32
The anti Hogan rants came before he even called one game and I don't believe many are giving him a fair chance.

It's half way through his 1st season as an OC. He has called some good and bad games.  He has made mistakes.  He will improve and learn as he goes.

Our team of coaches on offense will figure it out this year with some continued growing pains along the way.

There will be no coaches changes this season and I would stick with what we got to allow for growth.

I would like to see more of last years strengths, bombs and steady diet of Brady bully ball.  That said you gotta take what they give you.  Teams key on Brady as they know he stirs the drink.

Receivers are coming on and if Wilson can shine early and we get completely healthy, it will be bombs way by the time the white stuff flies.

To me it's all about the OL. If that unit can play above average, everything else will fall into place (eventually).

Strevy

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 04, 2025, 06:24:04 PMTotally predictable and you could see this coming from a mile away. It's got to be hard for Zach to know infinitely more about football and running a CFL offense than the guy calling the plays. It would work if they were having a lot of success but if they're not it's going to hard to keep that together. It's just common sense/human nature.

Has to be frustrating, he is clearly in over his head and the most important season in a decade is not the time to experiment.

Bad decision, the timing could not be worse.  Time to rip the cord.

Jesse

Quote from: theaardvark on September 04, 2025, 07:17:15 PMCan someone please either do the stats, or show me where tehy are to do, showing our production on offense relative to this time last year.

I remember hearing on the coaches show that we are actually a point or two ahead of last year...

The thing is, the first half of last year was very bad. We were not in a play-off position, we had multiple rookies starting every position group because of catastrophic injuries. Brady didn't have a single score.

Being a couple points ahead of that squad is not an accomplishment. Last year was supposed to be an anomaly due to injury, not a terrible standard to hold ourselves to.
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Blueforlife

#35
The suggestion to change our OC is a knee jerk sky is falling over reaction that won't happen
Paying 10 to 1 odds we will stay the course
The suggestion that Lapo needs to come to the rescue is 10000 to 1 odds at best.  I believe a change at OC at this point would hurt not help.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Jesse on September 04, 2025, 11:50:40 PMThe thing is, the first half of last year was very bad. We were not in a play-off position, we had multiple rookies starting every position group because of catastrophic injuries. Brady didn't have a single score.

Being a couple points ahead of that squad is not an accomplishment. Last year was supposed to be an anomaly due to injury, not a terrible standard to hold ourselves to.

This little stat always bothers me, whether Brady scores TD's or not doesn't really matter when Strev scores a TD at the end of almost every successful goal-line plunge. Anybody following the CFL understands Brady probably had a lot to do with getting the ball up to the goal-line.

Jesse

#37
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 05, 2025, 12:43:04 AMThis little stat always bothers me, whether Brady scores TD's or not doesn't really matter when Strev scores a TD at the end of almost every successful goal-line plunge. Anybody following the CFL understands Brady probably had a lot to do with getting the ball up to the goal-line.

But we're talking in the context of a period where the average score was about 10 points per game lower than the year before.

So we were not getting the ball in the endzone. It wasn't a matter of Strev getting the ball instead of Brady.
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theaardvark

Thanks Statsjunkie... 2 - 14 page stat packages to dive into, I gleaned just a few data points.

Stat      2024    2025
Pts        234     302
Off Pts    218     272
TD          18      31
FG          34      29
YDS       3873    3924
Pass      2780    2865
Rush      1246    1216
Plays      625     617

The problem is not the OC...  offense is a better this year
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Jesse

Better than our worst stretch of football since 2015?

Great. High praise.
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Blueforlife

#40
Quote from: theaardvark on September 05, 2025, 02:24:17 AMThanks Statsjunkie... 2 - 14 page stat packages to dive into, I gleaned just a few data points.

Stat      2024    2025
Pts        234     302
Off Pts    218     272
TD          18      31
FG          34      29
YDS       3873    3924
Pass      2780    2865
Rush      1246    1216
Plays      625     617

The problem is not the OC...  offense is a better this year
Agree with you!
Numbers don't lie.  OC is average, just like out O which is trending upwards.

Forest through the trees.

theaardvark

Quote from: Blueforlife on September 05, 2025, 02:33:50 AMNumbers don't lie.  OC is average, just like out O which is trending upwards.

Forest through the trees.

Many of the posters in this thread were complaining that the OC has to go.  That his offense is underperforming. 

The stats are not super impressive, but they show that the results this year are better than last year at this point.
Unabashed positron.  Blue koolaid in my fridge.  I wear my blue sunglasses at night.  Homer, d'oh.

Strevy

Quote from: Jesse on September 05, 2025, 02:29:59 AMBetter than our worst stretch of football since 2015?

Great. High praise.

Exactly, compare it to 2023 and see how it looks.  Compared to a brutal start we are right on par.....

The partial excuse for the slow start in 2024 was the Country Club training camp and pre-season attitude if I remember correctly.

Blueforlife

#43
Quote from: theaardvark on September 05, 2025, 02:42:25 AMMany of the posters in this thread were complaining that the OC has to go.  That his offense is underperforming. 

The stats are not super impressive, but they show that the results this year are better than last year at this point.
O I am in agreement with you, sorry didn't make that clear.  OC is going nowhere and isn't our biggest issue by far.  O lives and dies on back of OL.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 05, 2025, 12:43:04 AMThis little stat always bothers me, whether Brady scores TD's or not doesn't really matter when Strev scores a TD at the end of almost every successful goal-line plunge. Anybody following the CFL understands Brady probably had a lot to do with getting the ball up to the goal-line.

Nope, not this year, and not last year.  Brady has not been the one moving the ball much in the red zone, and certainly not "just getting to the 1 for Strev".  Remember, our team got a pittance of TDs in the first 6 games of '24, and even less from the red zone.  And Brady didn't get out of the chicken box until, what, week 12?  Most of our Strev work comes from DPIs or RECs getting close with YAC.

You're remembering the AH33 years!!

In fact, I was shocked as all heck to see Brady get that 10YD gut TD in LDC!  Weren't you guys too?  Shocked that was the call, and shocked it worked!  And if we're shocked at our $225k RB doing mundane RB things that even $75k rookie SSK RB did twice, well then what does that say about the whole situation?
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