SOS LaPo!

Started by Strevy, September 01, 2025, 04:56:44 AM

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Strevy

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on September 03, 2025, 01:24:10 PMI know Sunday's loss was a tough one but man, lay off the sauce before logging on next time.

I like HP and BBQ for the most part, not sure why it would matter in this situation? 

Anyway, JJ HC and LaPo OC could be the secret sauce this team needs!  JJ did a great job with the Elks last season and LaPo is a proven OC in this league.  I like it.

theaardvark

Strevy. have you done a scan of the stats this year vs. last?  Just for offensive production?

Remember, BO20 has been nicked all year, and we have had some pretty big injuries along the way.

Statsjunkie, have you got the numbers?
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Don't feed the troll guys. He'll go away soon. Just like every year.
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Strevy

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Quote from: theaardvark on September 04, 2025, 02:33:06 PMStrevy. have you done a scan of the stats this year vs. last?  Just for offensive production?

Remember, BO20 has been nicked all year, and we have had some pretty big injuries along the way.

Statsjunkie, have you got the numbers?

Keep in mind the opposition.  We have yet to beat a team with a winning record this season.  It's past Labour Day.

We have the talent, we should be neck and neck or ahead of Calgary imo. Talent can't help from the PR, 1 game or the sidelines and can only execute what they are given. 5 runs for the best player in the league doesn't cut it.  Would you put McDavid on the fourth line?  Same difference.

The players are there.  No question.

Waffler

Not saying to bring back Lapo but something in the Free Press today casting yet more shade on Hogan.

You could feel the frustration inside the Bombers locker room after their loss. While losing a close game to their biggest rival is always tough, this felt deeper. Quarterback Zach Collaros was visibly seething, offering one- and two-word answers in his post-game presser. Though he was diplomatic, you could tell he was bothered, especially when he seemed to object to the two-point conversion play call, implying it was a "play every team runs" and therefore predictable. Running back Brady Oliveira also bit his tongue, but his displeasure was palpable, particularly with his mere five carries. For a team built on a strong running game, that number is a head-scratcher. With Jason Hogan in his first season as offensive co-ordinator, there were bound to be growing pains. The question now is whether this is just a bump in the road or if something more serious is brewing within the locker room.
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blue_gold_84

Quote from: Waffler on September 04, 2025, 03:35:56 PMNot saying to bring back Lapo but something in the Free Press today casting yet more shade on Hogan.

You could feel the frustration inside the Bombers locker room after their loss. While losing a close game to their biggest rival is always tough, this felt deeper. Quarterback Zach Collaros was visibly seething, offering one- and two-word answers in his post-game presser. Though he was diplomatic, you could tell he was bothered, especially when he seemed to object to the two-point conversion play call, implying it was a "play every team runs" and therefore predictable. Running back Brady Oliveira also bit his tongue, but his displeasure was palpable, particularly with his mere five carries. For a team built on a strong running game, that number is a head-scratcher. With Jason Hogan in his first season as offensive co-ordinator, there were bound to be growing pains. The question now is whether this is just a bump in the road or if something more serious is brewing within the locker room.

Where there's smoke, there's generally fire. Hogan doesn't seem to be making fans based on this information above.

And I'm inclined to agree. From the standpoint of the coaching staff, he's hands down the weakest link, IMO.

BBRT

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on September 04, 2025, 03:40:41 PMWhere there's smoke, there's generally fire. Hogan doesn't seem to be making fans based on this information above.

And I'm inclined to agree. From the standpoint of the coaching staff, he's hands down the weakest link, IMO.

I agree with your thoughts 100%

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Waffler on September 04, 2025, 03:35:56 PMNot saying to bring back Lapo but something in the Free Press today casting yet more shade on Hogan.

You could feel the frustration inside the Bombers locker room after their loss. While losing a close game to their biggest rival is always tough, this felt deeper. Quarterback Zach Collaros was visibly seething, offering one- and two-word answers in his post-game presser. Though he was diplomatic, you could tell he was bothered, especially when he seemed to object to the two-point conversion play call, implying it was a "play every team runs" and therefore predictable. Running back Brady Oliveira also bit his tongue, but his displeasure was palpable, particularly with his mere five carries. For a team built on a strong running game, that number is a head-scratcher. With Jason Hogan in his first season as offensive co-ordinator, there were bound to be growing pains. The question now is whether this is just a bump in the road or if something more serious is brewing within the locker room.

Zach can fume, but he had other options to choose from and the one he picked he failed to execute.  The game came down to 3 different scenarios were the offence came up short, the players share in that is equal to the OC's.

Strevy

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 04, 2025, 04:32:52 PMZach can fume, but he had other options to choose from and the one he picked he failed to execute.  The game came down to 3 different scenarios were the offence came up short, the players share in that is equal to the OC's.

Have a feeling this may be cumulative.  Not necessarily the single play call.  Probably wasn't happy getting pounded in the pocket while the best back/player in the league only gets 5 touches either.

This speaks volumes.

blue_gold_84

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 04, 2025, 04:32:52 PMZach can fume, but he had other options to choose from and the one he picked he failed to execute.  The game came down to 3 different scenarios were the offence came up short, the players share in that is equal to the OC's.

He's right to fume. Same with Oliveira. Hogan's basically got no clue how to use the talent he has.

The players have to execute but when two prominent players are expressing frustration with what's being called, it seems pretty evident the OC isn't doing his job well.

Jesse

Quote from: Waffler on September 04, 2025, 03:35:56 PMNot saying to bring back Lapo but something in the Free Press today casting yet more shade on Hogan.

You could feel the frustration inside the Bombers locker room after their loss. While losing a close game to their biggest rival is always tough, this felt deeper. Quarterback Zach Collaros was visibly seething, offering one- and two-word answers in his post-game presser. Though he was diplomatic, you could tell he was bothered, especially when he seemed to object to the two-point conversion play call, implying it was a "play every team runs" and therefore predictable. Running back Brady Oliveira also bit his tongue, but his displeasure was palpable, particularly with his mere five carries. For a team built on a strong running game, that number is a head-scratcher. With Jason Hogan in his first season as offensive co-ordinator, there were bound to be growing pains. The question now is whether this is just a bump in the road or if something more serious is brewing within the locker room.

I am very anti-Hogan and agree with everything here.

That said, this was a Jeff Hamilton article and he is also very anti-Hogan and is probably looking for a little confirmation bias in these quotes.
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I'm not a big fan of Hogan, but I watched that Collaros interview twice, and Zach was definitely angry about the loss, but his comment about it being a play that everybody in the league runs didn't strike me as a swipe at Hogan, but instead, saying that there's nothing unusual about the play call. He followed it up by saying he has to throw a better ball, which is correct. I think the play was there for the taking if he had thrown it a bit earlier and put a bit more on it.

Strevy

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on September 04, 2025, 04:45:07 PMHe's right to fume. Same with Oliveira. Hogan's basically got no clue how to use the talent he has.

The players have to execute but when two prominent players are expressing frustration with what's being called, it seems pretty evident the OC isn't doing his job well.

JJ should be handed the keys to this O.  No question imo.  That would mean MOS has to admit they/he was wrong.

So, do they keep pounding that square peg?

Pete

Quote from: Strevy on September 04, 2025, 05:41:11 PMJJ should be handed the keys to this O.  No question imo.  That would mean MOS has to admit they/he was wrong.

So, do they keep pounding that square peg?
Have you listened to OShea? Not likely

Strevy

Quote from: Pete on September 04, 2025, 05:47:21 PMHave you listened to OShea? Not likely

So square peg, round hole it is.  Feel bad for the players.  A ton of talent there. 

On both sides of the ball.