SOS LaPo!

Started by Strevy, September 01, 2025, 04:56:44 AM

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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Waffler on September 04, 2025, 03:35:56 PMespecially when he seemed to object to the two-point conversion play call, implying it was a "play every team runs" and therefore predictable.

Each OC/team should have a few 2PAT gimmee plays in their toolbox, for when the game is on the line.  I'm sure each OC/team does.  Except us.

How do I know we don't?  Because we ran what IS a play that every team runs!  It was a play you would run in the 1st Q to try to get a TD from the 3 or 5!  It wasn't special at all.

What this tells me is we haven't drawn up any novel win-the-game 2PAT schemes, let alone practice them so we're ready.  Dinwiddie wouldn't have blown this 2PAT...

This is the first clear failure from Hogan that I've seen.  There should have been a completely novel scheme, with misdirection and movement everywhere, and some guy should have been wide open somewhere.  This is the moment Eli or your FB or your 5th read becomes the hero and the opponent D is made to look foolish.

And I don't care about "muh execution" because it shouldn't come down to perfect Zach execution.  I don't want to win that play with muscle/finesse, I want to win that play with my brain, and with the muscle/finesse acting as the gravy / buffer.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Jesse on September 04, 2025, 11:50:40 PMThe thing is, the first half of last year was very bad. We were not in a play-off position, we had multiple rookies starting every position group because of catastrophic injuries. Brady didn't have a single score.

Remember how for the first 6-8 games in 2024 we couldn't score from the red zone if our life depended on it?  That was like the whole news story that entire time.  Not only Brady couldn't score but NO ONE could score.  So many failed corner fades to Kenny... so many botched passes hitting DB's in the back of the head.  Such a waste.

Let's hand it to Hogan: he's been scoring TDs in the red zone reliably from day 1.  Massive improvement.  Quick, someone give me the red zone % for first 8 games of '24 vs '25.  I bet it'll shock you.
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blue_gold_84

Quote from: Jesse on September 04, 2025, 11:50:40 PMThe thing is, the first half of last year was very bad. We were not in a play-off position, we had multiple rookies starting every position group because of catastrophic injuries. Brady didn't have a single score.

Being a couple points ahead of that squad is not an accomplishment. Last year was supposed to be an anomaly due to injury, not a terrible standard to hold ourselves to.

This, this, this. Being marginally better than this time a year ago is not and should not be a measuring stick.
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What a craptacular timeline.
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Strevy

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Quote from: blue_gold_84 on September 05, 2025, 01:22:49 PMThis, this, this. Being marginally better than this time a year ago is not and should not be a measuring stick.

Exactly, let's compare this season to the worst start in a decade to see if we are doing well...?

We have no wins against a team with a winning record after Labour Day.  Let that sink in.

No reason for this imo this team is extremely talented.  They need a person who puts the talent on the roster on D and a person who knows how to use the talent we have on O.   

theaardvark

OK, last year was not a stellar year, but we made it to the cup.

Just saying, if we could make the cup with the start we had last year, and we've improved this year, its had to put the blame on the OC or say that he should be replaced, which is what this thread is all about.

I heard someone say that we could cross over, and end up meeting SSK in the GC at home.  Wouldn't THAT be the best GC ever?
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blue_gold_84

Quote from: theaardvark on September 05, 2025, 03:51:25 PMOK, last year was not a stellar year, but we made it to the cup.

And then got thoroughly embarrassed. Don't just ignore that part.
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What a craptacular timeline.
Hogan is no hero.

Strevy

#51
One shot from the 5 to tie.  Let's throw a wide out to the guy on one pin who probably should not have even been rostered.  Sound good?

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TecnoGenius

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on September 05, 2025, 04:07:53 PMAnd then got thoroughly embarrassed. Don't just ignore that part.

Did you see Zach/RECs in the 4th in the LDC?  If Zach didn't get sliced up anything could have happened.  Just because they got pretty outplayed up to that point doesn't mean they couldn't have pulled it off.

We got dealt a bum hand.  Literally.
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Blueforlife

I believe this team just like last year can still do it.  Tough blow with injury news today but next man  up shall continue to be tested.  Believe my friends, this run isn't over (yet).  My physio person says Bombers will blow em out.  I think tight game.

Strevy

#54
Quote from: theaardvark on September 05, 2025, 03:51:25 PMOK, last year was not a stellar year, but we made it to the cup.

Just saying, if we could make the cup with the start we had last year, and we've improved this year, its had to put the blame on the OC or say that he should be replaced, which is what this thread is all about.

I heard someone say that we could cross over, and end up meeting SSK in the GC at home.  Wouldn't THAT be the best GC ever?

This team has the talent to win it all.  No, question. They just don't see the field.

Case in point , DS last week playing on a torn ACL.

This is why the SOS was sent out, time is running out.  Three compartments are already flooded and someone is too stubborn/refuses to batten the hatches.

dd

Quote from: Strevy on September 06, 2025, 03:11:45 AMThis team has the talent to win it all.  No, question. They just don't see the field.

Case in point , DS last week playing on a torn ACL.

This is why the SOS was sent out, time is running out.  Three compartments are already flooded and someone is too stubborn/refuses to batten the hatches.
Ah, no we don't. Last year we had Kenny and schoen in our lineup, both gone, replaced by Mitchell who took half a season to get into shape. And Dobson was twice the left guard Wallace is. Defensively we lost ford and replaced him with ??

So as much as I d like to agree we have the talent to win it all, we really don't if you look objectively at who we lost another replacements have been

TecnoGenius

Quote from: dd on September 06, 2025, 03:33:39 AMAh, no we don't. Last year we had Kenny and schoen in our lineup

I'll bite...  Kenny was missing 1/3 of last season and Schoen 3/4's.  Wheatie and Clercius are both showing 2nd year improvement, so that's a plus vs '24.  Demski, instead of being the fumble-meister is now looking like a legit league top-5.  Kenny only had like 2 good games last season for us and did nothing but cost us 1st downs in the GC.

With Pokey back our REC corps might be better than last year.

Quote from: dd on September 06, 2025, 03:33:39 AMAnd Dobson was twice the left guard Wallace is.

Dobson wasn't great.  He isn't looking too hot on his new team either.

Vant is at least as good a pass protector, and at worst a small downgrade on run block.  Call it a wash.

Quote from: dd on September 06, 2025, 03:33:39 AMDefensively we lost ford and replaced him with ??

Houston.  At worst, another wash.  Maybe even an upgrade (minus the passport bonus) -- remains to be seen.  Ford also has been doing nothing on his new team.
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Blueforlife

Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 06, 2025, 03:40:40 AMI'll bite...  Kenny was missing 1/3 of last season and Schoen 3/4's.  Wheatie and Clercius are both showing 2nd year improvement, so that's a plus vs '24.  Demski, instead of being the fumble-meister is now looking like a legit league top-5.  Kenny only had like 2 good games last season for us and did nothing but cost us 1st downs in the GC.

With Pokey back our REC corps might be better than last year.

Dobson wasn't great.  He isn't looking too hot on his new team either.

Vant is at least as good a pass protector, and at worst a small downgrade on run block.  Call it a wash.

Houston.  At worst, another wash.  Maybe even an upgrade (minus the passport bonus) -- remains to be seen.  Ford also has been doing nothing on his new team.

Agree all but Ford > Houston imo

Happy you took the bait, I needed a break lol

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Blueforlife on September 06, 2025, 04:13:40 AMAgree all but Ford > Houston imo

When Houston left he was as stat-strong and touted as Ford when he left.  Ford only seems better because of his passport.

Then they both stunk with their new teams.  Because their new teams stunk.

It will be interesting to see who ends up "better" by the end of this season.  It'll be close, but I think Houston will win out.  I bet he shuts down that side completely and teams will only test the Vaval/Lawson side (whichever wins the spot).
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Blueforlife

Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 06, 2025, 04:16:40 AMWhen Houston left he was as stat-strong and touted as Ford when he left.  Ford only seems better because of his passport.

Then they both stunk with their new teams.  Because their new teams stunk.

It will be interesting to see who ends up "better" by the end of this season.  It'll be close, but I think Houston will win out.  I bet he shuts down that side completely and teams will only test the Vaval/Lawson side (whichever wins the spot).

I can't argue with you here