SOS LaPo!

Started by Strevy, September 01, 2025, 04:56:44 AM

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BBFANDM

#60
Quote from: Blueforlife on September 06, 2025, 04:25:05 AMI can't argue with you here

That might be but we are not a Championship level team at this point IMO with our Interior DL, the Bombers seem more interested in getting a
Draft pick by playing Nationals than putting the best players on the field. And if the 2 American DL players on the PR are not good enough then its a failure of our GM and Scouting departments. Our OL has gotten weaker year over years. Calgary and SASK are top teams this year because they win in the Trenches the Bombers are middle of the pack on the OL and DL.The Bombers need to do something to improve our OL and DL asap otherwise we have no hope of winning any big games. And that is more important than ever since Zach's skills are clearly on the decline even though no one on the Coaching Staff is willing to publicly admit it ( and I don't blame them ) but all the more reason to try something different.
And having a new OC that is still learning isn't helping he hasn't been terrible but he hasn't helped things either.

Tecno

Quote from: BBFANDM on September 06, 2025, 05:24:45 AMThat might be but we are not a Championship level team at this point IMO with our Interior DL, the Bombers seem more interested in getting a
Draft pick by playing Nationals than putting the best players on the field. And if the 2 American DL players on the PR are not good enough then its a failure of our GM and Scouting departments. Our OL has gotten weaker year over years.

I seriously think we've found ways to win with a non-traditional "smaller" "weaker" (cheaper!) DL.  We've been doing it since '24, and that strategy got us to the cup.  I think in FA Younger/MOS say "don't prioritize DT, prioritize X Y Z".  I don't think they're screaming for DT beasts like CGY & SSK have.

And it may pay off, because then you can spend that $X saved on monster DTs elsewhere.  And if you can find ways to win that don't involve sacks or stopping runs behind the LoS, then who's to say this isn't the best approach for us?

I actually like it when a team does some outside the box thinking.  It doesn't have to all be by-the-book football.  One could say Mafia has never really done things by the book at every position.  And we've had sustained success.
Never go full Johnston!

Strevy

#62
Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 06, 2025, 07:11:30 AMI seriously think we've found ways to win with a non-traditional "smaller" "weaker" (cheaper!) DL.  We've been doing it since '24, and that strategy got us to the cup.  I think in FA Younger/MOS say "don't prioritize DT, prioritize X Y Z".  I don't think they're screaming for DT beasts like CGY & SSK have.

And it may pay off, because then you can spend that $X saved on monster DTs elsewhere.  And if you can find ways to win that don't involve sacks or stopping runs behind the LoS, then who's to say this isn't the best approach for us?

I actually like it when a team does some outside the box thinking.  It doesn't have to all be by-the-book football.  One could say Mafia has never really done things by the book at every position.  And we've had sustained success.


Do you think Woods or Adams are
making more than JT? Not likely, it's costing us.

Once again, they can replace his 7 tackles and one RTP for a lot less.

Damian Jackson syndrome.  The real talent is there but for some reason.....

Change out the Captain and an inexperienced first mate and we sail through to a home GC appearance imo.  It's really that simple.

If we don't, compartments 4-7 fill and the band plays on for another GC hosting season. 

Blueforlife

I'm with Techno.  DL isn't as weak as some suggest.  An average unit.  Latest injury doesn't help.  OL needs to get healthy and our season is on their back.  If 100% our OL is average imo.

Zach is old but still has the ability to take us to the big show imo.

bunker

Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 06, 2025, 07:11:30 AMI seriously think we've found ways to win with a non-traditional "smaller" "weaker" (cheaper!) DL.  We've been doing it since '24, and that strategy got us to the cup.  I think in FA Younger/MOS say "don't prioritize DT, prioritize X Y Z".  I don't think they're screaming for DT beasts like CGY & SSK have.

And it may pay off, because then you can spend that $X saved on monster DTs elsewhere.

And if you can find ways to win that don't involve sacks or stopping runs behind the LoS, then who's to say this isn't the best approach for us?

I actually like it when a team does some outside the box thinking.  It doesn't have to all be by-the-book football.  One could say Mafia has never really done things by the book at every position.  And we've had sustained success.


Like Mitchell, Logan, J Jones...Their in league American scouting was terrible.

Jesse

Quote from: bunker on September 06, 2025, 01:31:51 PMLike Mitchell, Logan, J Jones...Their in league American scouting was terrible.

Yeah, that ship has sailed.
My wife is amazing!

Strevy

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Quote from: bunker on September 06, 2025, 01:31:51 PMLike Mitchell, Logan, J Jones...Their in league American scouting was terrible.

Mitchell is serviceable and would have been great to have in week one to improve.  Has return experience as well. Too bad he wasn't a Navy Seal or at least dressed up like one for Halloween.

Logan looks not ready and should not be rostered until he is.

J.Jones is a stud and should be playing.

This roster is managed like a kids lemonade stand at times.

theaardvark

Quote from: Strevy on September 06, 2025, 03:11:45 AMThis team has the talent to win it all.  No, question. They just don't see the field.

Case in point , DS last week playing on a torn ACL.

This is why the SOS was sent out, time is running out.  Three compartments are already flooded and someone is too stubborn/refuses to batten the hatches.

DS was cleared for play. You can play without any ligaments in your knee.  Can't remember the QB we had that went through games in college without knee ligaments. A healed ACL can re-injure more easily, of course because it is weakened by the previous injury.

It wasn't some urgent need to have him in the lineup because were had "bad roster management".  He was cleared to play, and he wanted to play.  You can't force a player to stay on the IR if he is cleared to play.

ACL's are tricky buggers, and seem to plaque players that need to turn fast at speed. Not sure why he wasn't wearing a brace of some sort.
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Quote from: theaardvark on September 06, 2025, 04:25:31 PMDS was cleared for play. You can play without any ligaments in your knee.  Can't remember the QB we had that went through games in college without knee ligaments. A healed ACL can re-injure more easily, of course because it is weakened by the previous injury.



Robert Marve.

Jesse

Quote from: theaardvark on September 06, 2025, 04:25:31 PMDS was cleared for play. You can play without any ligaments in your knee.  Can't remember the QB we had that went through games in college without knee ligaments. A healed ACL can re-injure more easily, of course because it is weakened by the previous injury.

It wasn't some urgent need to have him in the lineup because were had "bad roster management".  He was cleared to play, and he wanted to play.  You can't force a player to stay on the IR if he is cleared to play.

ACL's are tricky buggers, and seem to plaque players that need to turn fast at speed. Not sure why he wasn't wearing a brace of some sort.

And guess what happened to him, lol.

In regards to DS, the team decides who to play. And I normally wouldn't be opposed to players trying to play through injury if it's a net positive for the team - but we have a growing list of examples of players rushing back too soon and getting immediately injured again and it shows very poorly on our training and coaching staff, imo.
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DM83

Your love for "JJ" is romantic.  The guy is as incompetent as Hogan.  However, That guy really is a un proven rookie as an OC.  JJ has been around.

However, who the team is bringing in....or more accurately not bringing in is the greater concern.
The older guys I thought would go out gracefully. However. It looks like they have resigned already.  Collaros should be getting a bonus for living behind that porous line.

Sadly, in what could have been a great final season, we have a pretty poor collection of players. The GM has nit brought anyone in to really pay to watch.  Or is it that the team was building? A suspension to start the year, injuries, next, a poor blend of offensive plays and offensive linemen, a defensive coordinator? Who plays a bend but break. Tiny people playing defensive back poorly. Well you know it.

Oh well.

Strevy

#71
Quote from: DM83 on September 06, 2025, 07:10:06 PMYour love for "JJ" is romantic.  The guy is as incompetent as Hogan.  However, That guy really is a un proven rookie as an OC.  JJ has been around.

However, who the team is bringing in....or more accurately not bringing in is the greater concern.
The older guys I thought would go out gracefully. However. It looks like they have resigned already.  Collaros should be getting a bonus for living behind that porous line.

Sadly, in what could have been a great final season, we have a pretty poor collection of players. The GM has nit brought anyone in to really pay to watch.  Or is it that the team was building? A suspension to start the year, injuries, next, a poor blend of offensive plays and offensive linemen, a defensive coordinator? Who plays a bend but break. Tiny people playing defensive back poorly. Well you know it.

Oh well.

JJ brought the Elks back to playoff contention after CJ last season. 

He is not my choice for OC.

LaPo is, JJ for HC.

The players are there.  Just need to roster them.

The Captain and one first mate are sinking the SS Bomber.

Big Daddy

Quote from: theaardvark on September 06, 2025, 04:25:31 PMDS was cleared for play. You can play without any ligaments in your knee.  Can't remember the QB we had that went through games in college without knee ligaments. A healed ACL can re-injure more easily, of course because it is weakened by the previous injury.

It wasn't some urgent need to have him in the lineup because were had "bad roster management".  He was cleared to play, and he wanted to play.  You can't force a player to stay on the IR if he is cleared to play.

ACL's are tricky buggers, and seem to plaque players that need to turn fast at speed. Not sure why he wasn't wearing a brace of some sort.

First quote - you are right, they are weakened, first 9 months are the most risky, and it gets better from there in most cases.  Sometimes it is essentially as good "original equipment".

Second quote - I didn't look for this, but in hindsight - he was playing with a known re-injured, or even re-blown, ACL, and he wasn't wearing a brace?!  How can that be?  Having no ACL is unstable - a brace can help mitigate the difficulties, but without a brace at all?  Seems crazy.

Strevy

Quote from: Big Daddy on September 06, 2025, 09:36:32 PMFirst quote - you are right, they are weakened, first 9 months are the most risky, and it gets better from there in most cases.  Sometimes it is essentially as good "original equipment".

Second quote - I didn't look for this, but in hindsight - he was playing with a known re-injured, or even re-blown, ACL, and he wasn't wearing a brace?!  How can that be?  Having no ACL is unstable - a brace can help mitigate the difficulties, but without a brace at all?  Seems crazy.

Poor roster management, sit him.  The guy likely needed surgery.  Unbelievable.

Strevy

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