Official Game Day Thread - Toronto at Winnipeg October 11, 2024

[Sir Blue and Gold]

Ceresna definitely had a really good game. I guess when one guy is at times unblockable, , and they don't fix that somehow, the whole offensive system fails, and maybe there is no play they can run that can remedy that.

Also, it wasn't one play or another that lost the game.... There were several that made the difference.

And it was good to see Zach going to different receivers.

Brady 12 carries seems like not enough. All season , off and on, they have gotten away from running the ball.

On paper it kind of makes sense if you don't love the line of scrimmage match up. I think they could have tried a few more runs in the first half to test the theory but they were certainly paying respect to the Argos defensive line.

The Argos brought a lot of five man pressure. Would love to see the overall snap count but usually that type of pressure loses to a good three step drop quick passing game which is what we did in the second half.

It is no surprise that the Argos and Riders are both playing great ball on the back of their defensive lines right now. It's a problem. And the playoffs are going to be tough if we get Riders, Toronto or Riders, Montreal.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

On paper it kind of makes sense if you don't love the line of scrimmage match up. I think they could have tried a few more runs in the first half to test the theory but they were certainly paying respect to the Argos defensive line.

The Argos brought a lot of five man pressure. Would love to see the overall snap count but usually that type of pressure loses to a good three step drop quick passing game which is what we did in the second half.

It is no surprise that the Argos and Riders are both playing great ball on the back of their defensive lines right now. It's a problem. And the playoffs are going to be tough if we get Riders, Toronto or Riders, Montreal.

You can imagine the advantage created by rotating 9 quality D-linemen throughout a game, keeps them fresh and focused, keeps the O-line guessing who they're dealing with and what talent they bring on each play, and creates competition among the D-line to show their best on every play.  Certainly a different scenario than lining up against the same tired, frustrated D-lineman every play throughout a game.  Bombers can probably expect to see this approach taken against them by a few opponents going forward.

[Sir Blue and Gold]

You can imagine the advantage created by rotating 9 quality D-linemen throughout a game, keeps them fresh and focused, keeps the O-line guessing who they're dealing with and what talent they bring on each play, and creates competition among the D-line to show their best on every play.  Certainly a different scenario than lining up against the same tired, frustrated D-lineman every play throughout a game.  Bombers can probably expect to see this approach taken against them by a few opponents going forward.

Guess how many defensive lineman the Elks dressed against us for the game in Winnipeg? Nine. Guess how many the week before? Eight. Toronto dressed nine.

It's not the number that really matters but how well they play. Toronto's defensive line was really successful from the opening whistle to the end. If teams could shut down our attack simply by dressing more lineman they would have done it three seasons ago.

[Pete]

True enough, what was successful for the argos was the sustained pressure with just 4 men. We knew going in they had more sacks than any other team, but we had no game plan to offset it
 

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Guess how many defensive lineman the Elks dressed against us for the game in Winnipeg? Nine. Guess how many the week before? Eight. Toronto dressed nine.

It's not the number that really matters but how well they play. Toronto's defensive line was really successful from the opening whistle to the end. If teams could shut down our attack simply by dressing more lineman they would have done it three seasons ago.

Quality also makes a difference, the Argos have some all-star grade D-linemen, plus throw in a player like Hansen who is hard to handle one on one.

[Pigskin]

Our OL has taken a lot of flak over this game.  But, at the end of the day. If Castillo hits his FGs, we win.

Castillo: 9th in the league. 46/57, 80.7%, longest 60 yards. Like his long FGs, but he's missed FGs this season which have cost us games. Last year 90%.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Our OL has taken a lot of flax over this game. But, at the end of the day. If Castillo hits his FGs, we win.

Castillo: 9th in the league. 46/57, 80.7%, longest 60 yards. Like his long FGs, but he's missed FGs this season which have cost us games. Last year 90%.

No worries, they can wash away the flax with a couple bottles of barley. 

[Big Daddy]

Our OL has taken a lot of flax over this game.  But, at the end of the day. If Castillo hits his FGs, we win.

Castillo: 9th in the league. 46/57, 80.7%, longest 60 yards. Like his long FGs, but he's missed FGs this season which have cost us games. Last year 90%.

Fun fact: I accidentally tapped "report" and laughed when I saw if I actually reported your post to a moderator, it would likely go to - you !

It is a fair point about Castillo and his misses.  I didn't realize his percentage and how he is last now despite having the longest.

I don't mean to take away from that, as it clearly would've made a difference on Friday.  I just want to mention there were a lot of other plays that could've made all the difference.  Being stuffed at the goal line comes to mind.  That would not have happened with a healthy Strev.

Heard he was walking without any support at the bomber gala this week. I'm gonna say here I believe Strev will be back for 2025 to help us win the GC here at home.

[Stats Junkie]

Our OL has taken a lot of flax over this game.  But, at the end of the day. If Castillo hits his FGs, we win.

Castillo: 9th in the league. 46/57, 80.7%, longest 60 yards. Like his long FGs, but he's missed FGs this season which have cost us games. Last year 90%.

Adjusted for distance, I have Sergio Castillo at 84.7% which ranks 7th in the CFL.
- Castillo is just 60% in the 40-49 range - tied for 7th.
- 49.1% of his FG attempts are from 40+. Only Paredes tries more kicks from 40+ (57.5%)
- Castillo is 2nd in the CFL in 30-39 range (93.3%). His only miss from this range came in game one (Chipped Ball).

[Pigskin]

Yes, most of his problems come from 40 plus. He's 18/28 which is 64.28%. 

[bluengold204]

 

Our OL has taken a lot of flak over this game.  But, at the end of the day. If Castillo hits his FGs, we win.

Castillo: 9th in the league. 46/57, 80.7%, longest 60 yards. Like his long FGs, but he's missed FGs this season which have cost us games. Last year 90%.

Yikes guess it wasn't the chips in the balls after all

[TecnoGenius]

Yikes on those
Yikes guess it wasn't the chips in the balls after all

That first game the balls were doing wonky things.  You can visibly see it.  I wonder if some kickers have opted to work with chipped balls because for some kickers you can see the same very odd ball trajectory changes.  And yes, I'm accounting for any excessive wind.

I have no doubt the chips did something to Castillo's game 1 kicks; however, clearly he sometimes gets in the wrong headspace for a game here and there.  I have faith he'll figure it out, probably by next game.

[Pigskin]

FGs. 40 yards plus:

Paredes   21/23   91.30%
Ward:     15/17    88.23%
Whyte:    14/16   87.50%
Hajru:    19/23     82.60%
Legg:     12/16     75.0%
Lauther:  19/28   67.85%.
Castillo: 18/28    64.28%.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

That first game the balls were doing wonky things.  You can visibly see it.  I wonder if some kickers have opted to work with chipped balls because for some kickers you can see the same very odd ball trajectory changes.  And yes, I'm accounting for any excessive wind.

I have no doubt the chips did something to Castillo's game 1 kicks; however, clearly he sometimes gets in the wrong headspace for a game here and there.  I have faith he'll figure it out, probably by next game.

Off the top I can recall 3 games Sergio missed 2 or more FG's in, all 3 losses and in 2 his missed points made the difference in the final score.  Was there more?

[markf]

Adjusted for distance, I have Sergio Castillo at 84.7% which ranks 7th in the CFL.
- Castillo is just 60% in the 40-49 range - tied for 7th.
- 49.1% of his FG attempts are from 40+. Only Paredes tries more kicks from 40+ (57.5%)
- Castillo is 2nd in the CFL in 30-39 range (93.3%). His only miss from this range came in game one (Chipped Ball).

excellent info.

I actually woke up wondering about this 😀