Official Game Day Thread - Toronto at Winnipeg October 11, 2024

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Blue In BC

Choke by the offence. By my count we left 16+ points on the field. Two missed FG's ( 5 ) Missed TD on goal line ( 7 ) and Collaros fumble on about the 20 ( FG? ). Add in the turnover on downs missing 1st down by 6 " and what might have been a game winner.

Thomas: What were you thinking? Everyone in the country knew the whistle blew. Dumbest play of the year.

N. Hallett blew the coverage on the TD. Also missed coverage on another play that resulted in a 1st down.

Castillo: 2 missed FG's against the Argos. AGAIN

Argos won LOS on both sides of the ball.

IDK. Now we need the Lions to beat the Riders. Not liking our chances against the Als while the Riders play the Stamsp.
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towelie

Lack of adjustments

Couple missed field goals

Defense did everything they could. Cole and Jones are studs. Secondary was very good considering Kelly often got to his 3rd or 4th read before throwing the ball.

O line wasn't good, ZC wasn't good. The result is what it is.

Another shot next game. Lots of work to do but we were due for a stinker

J5V

Both defenses played very well. Unfortunately our offense left too many points on the field and we lost by 3 points. If Sergio makes those two field goals he missed we win by 3. If we convert from the 1-yard line we win by 4. If we do both we win by 10. We certainly had our chances. It was a good lesson about capitalising on your opportunities. It was a close game. We battled right to the end. The boys won't be happy with the result but I'm proud of them for the way they battled right to the final whistle. We may need to beat Montreal in our last game if we want to host the Western Final. Should be a good game.
Go Bombers!

Blue In BC

Quote from: J5V on October 12, 2024, 03:31:57 AMBoth defenses played very well. Unfortunately our offense left too many points on the field and we lost by 3 points. If Sergio makes those two field goals he missed we win by 3. If we convert from the 1-yard line we win by 4. If we do both we win by 10. We certainly had our chances. It was a good lesson about capitalising on your opportunities. It was a close game. We battled right to the end. The boys won't be happy with the result but I'm proud of them for the way they battled right to the final whistle. We may need to beat Montreal in our last game if we want to host the Western Final. Should be a good game.

He got a single on one of the missed FG's but yes we'd have won if he'd made them potentially.

Collaros was sacked 7 times. We didn't get to Kelly even once but limited his offence. That's a small consolation.

Kelly had too much time to throw as have many QB's recently. Our defence still has limited every team including the Argos.

Tonight our offence turned over the ball too often.
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J5V

It's easy to be negative whenever you lose a game but winning and losing can be a strange thing. You can outplay a team and lose, a team can outplay you yet you win. Sometimes you need some luck and need to get some breaks. That's why O'Shea preaches to not get too high when you win and not get too low when you lose. Lots of football left, at least a regular season game and a playoff game and then hopefully a grey cup game. We control our own destiny. Go Bombers!
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towelie

It's crazy IMO how few points we've been allowing despite not really getting much pressure at all. Some is scheming for sure, but even on blitzes we barely make a dent more often than not.

O-line is getting caved in. Maybe we need to start bully ball earlier than later and see what that opens up.

Roster is what it is now. And prior to this we've found a way. Still an amazing turnaround. Hopefully Toronto isn't our Kryptonite. On to the next!

J5V

Quote from: VictorRomano on October 12, 2024, 03:18:36 AMInability to kick FGs when it counted, poor blocking, and an utterly ineffective ZC cost us this one.  Sloppy football.  We left way too many points on the table to deserve this win.
Give the Argo D some credit. They played a very good game and would have given any team a lot of trouble tonight. Same with our D. This game could have gone either way. I'd like to play them again in BC. :-)
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Blue In BC on October 12, 2024, 03:35:57 AM
Quote from: towelie on October 12, 2024, 03:26:26 AMLack of adjustments

Couple missed field goals

Defense did everything they could. Cole and Jones are studs. Secondary was very good considering Kelly often got to his 3rd or 4th read before throwing the ball.

O line wasn't good, ZC wasn't good. The result is what it is.

Another shot next game. Lots of work to do but we were due for a stinker

Collaros was sacked 7 times. We didn't get to Kelly even once but limited his offence. That's a small consolation.

Kelly had too much time to throw as have many QB's recently. Our defence still has limited every team including the Argos.

Tonight our offence turned over the ball too often.

Couple of missed makeable field goals, couple of times, leads to at least a couple of lost games...gotta wonder if Castillo is much better than Liegghio considering the ratio disadvantage.

J5V

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 12, 2024, 04:02:43 AMCollaros was sacked 7 times. We didn't get to Kelly even once but limited his offence. That's a small consolation.

Kelly had too much time to throw as have many QB's recently. Our defence still has limited every team including the Argos.

Tonight our offence turned over the ball too often.


Couple of missed makeable field goals, couple of times, leads to at least a couple of lost games...gotta wonder if Castillo is much better than Liegghio considering the ratio disadvantage.
All FG kickers have games like this. Castillo is often automatic but can make them from +60 which is beyond Liegghio's range. That can be the difference in a close game.
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Sir Blue and Gold

We let Toronto off the hook twice this year. Oh well. Pretty much all the little plays went against us and you pair that with a very slow start and it results in a narrow loss. Not worried. We didn't play a great game and still should have won.

dd

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on October 12, 2024, 04:02:43 AMCollaros was sacked 7 times. We didn't get to Kelly even once but limited his offence. That's a small consolation.

Kelly had too much time to throw as have many QB's recently. Our defence still has limited every team including the Argos.

Tonight our offence turned over the ball too often.


Couple of missed makeable field goals, couple of times, leads to at least a couple of lost games...gotta wonder if Castillo is much better than Liegghio considering the ratio disadvantage.
That would be interesting to know. Seems Leigghio has been doing fine since he left here, just like Liram did. Do we give up on Nat kickers too quickly??

J5V

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on October 12, 2024, 04:21:39 AMWe let Toronto off the hook twice this year. Oh well. Pretty much all the little plays went against us and you pair that with a very slow start and it results in a narrow loss. Not worried. We didn't play a great game and still should have won.
It seems like playing Eastern teams is not the same for us. We are deadly playing Western teams and that's why we are in an enviable position right now. Unfortunately we may need to beat Montreal in our last game if we want to host the Western Final so we need to be ready from the start if it comes to that. We are perfectly capable of beating any team in this league.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: J5V on October 12, 2024, 04:08:56 AMAll FG kickers have games like this. Castillo is often automatic but can make them from +60 which is beyond Liegghio's range. That can be the difference in a close game.

Honestly I'd settle for more consistency over longer FG's, at least with Paredes the Stamps know his range and try not to push him beyond it.

J5V

Quote from: Blue In BC on October 12, 2024, 03:35:57 AMHe got a single on one of the missed FG's but yes we'd have won if he'd made them potentially.
True. My bad. We'd only have won by 2 points.

Quote from: Blue In BC on October 12, 2024, 03:35:57 AMCollaros was sacked 7 times. We didn't get to Kelly even once but limited his offence. That's a small consolation.
Kelly did a good job of getting rid of the ball quickly or taking off with it. We may not have sacked him but we provided lots of pressure.

Quote from: Blue In BC on October 12, 2024, 03:35:57 AMKelly had too much time to throw as have many QB's recently. Our defence still has limited every team including the Argos.
Not too sure about that. I think we rushed him plenty and flushed him out of the pocket often.

Quote from: Blue In BC on October 12, 2024, 03:35:57 AMTonight our offence turned over the ball too often.
One fumble, twice on third down. That's all I recall. Toronto D had a very good night.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: J5V on October 12, 2024, 04:36:32 AMIt seems like playing Eastern teams is not the same for us. We are deadly playing Western teams and that's why we are in an enviable position right now. Unfortunately we may need to beat Montreal in our last game if we want to host the Western Final so we need to be ready from the start if it comes to that. We are perfectly capable of beating any team in this league.

The Bombers can handle all of those other teams in the trenches quite easily, overall the Argos and Als have superior personnel along the line of scrimmage, it's as simple as that IMO.