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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: BomberFan73 on May 18, 2024, 02:43:31 PMSpeaking of QBs, it had seemed that Barriere had a leg up on Wilson as the #3 before they stepped on the field.
But reading some reports, it seems Wilson has looked better so far in camp. It'll be interesting to see who can run the O better on Monday. 
That and I'm looking forward to Strev busting a big run  ;D

I hope they judge the rookie QB's by over all skill potential and not just 3rd down sneak ability, with the departure of Dru Brown they have to start over finding the QB that will take over when Zach retires, and I don't think it will be Streveler.  It would be a pity to cut one of these young QB's only to see them find success with another team.

BomberFan73

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 18, 2024, 03:27:18 PMI hope they judge the rookie QB's by over all skill potential and not just 3rd down sneak ability, with the departure of Dru Brown they have to start over finding the QB that will take over when Zach retires, and I don't think it will be Streveler.  It would be a pity to cut one of these young QB's only to see them find success with another team.
Agree, we need to find the next best QB period. But I think Strev will be that shortyardage guy anyways, so the need for that in a #3 this year should be less of a factor.

Pigskin

Quote from: BomberFan73 on May 18, 2024, 02:43:31 PMSpeaking of QBs, it had seemed that Barriere had a leg up on Wilson as the #3 before they stepped on the field.
But reading some reports, it seems Wilson has looked better so far in camp. It'll be interesting to see who can run the O better on Monday. 
That and I'm looking forward to Strev busting a big run  ;D

I took in a few practice this week. These guys are pretty close. Wilson is a little taller, and seems to have more speed. Arm strength and accuracy is pretty close. It will come down to who is more prepare and what they do on Monday. Two weeks of TC, and 1 or 2 quarters of football is a small window to impress and make a team. But, from what I saw, Wilson has look slightly better.

 
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BomberFan73

Quote from: Blue In BC on May 18, 2024, 03:21:22 PMA few thought Hill looked good in early days but there were 12 other rookie import receivers in camp.


We have made the following transactions:
Added to roster:
🇺🇸 Josh Vann (WR)
🇺🇸  Michael Griffin (DB)
Released from roster:
🇺🇸 KJ Hill (WR)
🇺🇸 Marcus Hillman (DB)

Well that kinda sucks.  Both Hill& Hillman were highly regarded.

Pigskin

#124
Quote from: Blue In BC on May 18, 2024, 03:21:22 PMA few thought Hill looked good in early days but there were 12 other rookie import receivers in camp.


We have made the following transactions:
Added to roster:
🇺🇸 Josh Vann (WR)
🇺🇸  Michael Griffin (DB)
Released from roster:
🇺🇸 KJ Hill (WR)
🇺🇸 Marcus Hillman (DB)

I didn't think Hill or Johnson looked good, to many dropped balls.

For me it's been Case and Wilson. Both have speed and seem to catch everything.

BDs:  McCarthy, McGhee, and Norman.
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BomberFan73

Quote from: Pigskin on May 18, 2024, 03:30:23 PMI took in a few practice this week. These guys are pretty close. Wilson is a little taller, and seems to have more speed. Arm strength and accuracy is pretty close. It will come down to who is more prepare and what they do on Monday. Two weeks of TC, and 1 or 2 quarters of football is a small window to impress and make a team. But, from what I saw, Wilson has look slightly better.

 

I hope they each get a good bit of time on Monday, because they won't get much in game #2

Pigskin

#126
Griffin, another South Dakota kid with pretty decent size.  At 5'11" 210, 4.52/ 40 , could this be the backup for Kramdi.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Pigskin on May 18, 2024, 03:45:40 PMGriffin, another South Dakota kid with pretty decent size.  At 5'11" 210, 4.52/ 40 , could this be the backup for Kramdi.


Building a solid player connection with South Dakota schools, is not a bad thing.

Pigskin

It's a great thing. Brady, and Holm, North Dakota. Griffin, Case, Strev17. South Dakota. Now we have the Dakota Boys and the Oak Park Boys. 
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BomberFan73

Quote from: Pigskin on May 18, 2024, 06:04:10 PMIt's a great thing. Brady, and Holm, North Dakota. Griffin, Case, Strev17. South Dakota. Now we have the Dakota Boys and the Oak Park Boys. 

Sounds like rival posses in a Western  ;D

Jesse

Quote from: BomberFan73 on May 18, 2024, 03:30:04 PMAgree, we need to find the next best QB period. But I think Strev will be that shortyardage guy anyways, so the need for that in a #3 this year should be less of a factor.

Absolutely. Third down/sneaks should not be a part of the #3 QB decision at all. Purely developmental spot.
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#132
May 18, 2024
48-Hour Primer
Defensive tackle Miles Fox --

Quick Hits from Day 7 of Blue Bombers camp leading up to Monday's preseason game in Regina against the Saskatchewan Roughriders...

B-E-L-I-E-V-E: Miles Fox had every reason to arrive in Blue Bombers camp a confident man. A solid dude with shoulders as wide as Pembina Highway, Fox parachuted into Winnipeg a year ago after being released by the B.C. Lions and spent most of the year on the practice roster — he did dress for two games — while trying to get a feel for his new surroundings.

Still, in the wide and wacky world of pro football a guy learns to never takes anything for granted. And so while Fox came into training camp as the leading contender to fill the defensive tackle spot left vacant after the departure of Ricky Walker, he also knew he had to keep his head down and grind, grind, grind.

"Sometimes I overthink things a lot," Walker said. "Before the season I was like, 'I'm just so nervous. S-o-o nervous.' And then after conversations with a couple people I was told that I don't need to be anything more than just me. Just go out and do the things I'm good at because every player on this defence is a piece of the puzzle. Everyone brings their own talent and their own unique ability and as long as I bring mine and know what I'm doing, everything should fit together perfectly."

A starter during his college days at Old Dominion and Wake Forest, Fox was in a mini-camp with the Buffalo Bills in 2022 before coming north to the B.C. Lions later that year. Cut by the Lions last season, he was en route to Winnipeg not long after.
Jake Kelly and Miles Fox from Saturday's practice

Jake Kelly and Miles Fox from Saturday's practice

"When I first got here Osh (head coach Mike O'Shea) walked up to me and told me a couple things he wanted me to improve on my game and I took that seriously," Fox said. "Ever since then, being the new guy you always want to prove yourself. You come into a new environment and you don't know what to expect. There's a new culture you have to adapt to and earn your way. That's what I tried to do every day and just be my best, work hard and show everybody I was a worker.

"They've won a lot of football games here, won a couple Grey Cups and so if they believe in me that I can be the man for the job, how can I not have confidence in myself? I'm just so excited to be here and do what I do."

That's the word — 'confident' — Fox used to describe the first week of his 2024 training camp with the Blue Bombers. Comfortability matters, as does familiarity. And having a starting job there for the taking can be a big motivator. Helping fuel all that is that sense of belief he's received from almost everyone around him.

"Having my teammates believe in me, having my coaches believe in me just gives me so much confidence," he said. "I'm going out every day feeling confident in myself, knowing what I'm doing, knowing that I can do it at a high level. It's fun to go out there and battle with my guys. I'm learning from Willie (Jefferson) every play, from (Adam) Bighill sitting behind me quizzing me in the meetings saying, 'Why'd you do this? What are you seeing here?' so I can know the concept behind it. It's really benefitted me a lot.

"I've waited for this opportunity for a long time... in any league. Being cut from B.C., obviously in the moment it really hurt, but I feel like God brought me to a better situation for me and I just thank him every day for that. Hearing from the coaches I have a chance to earn this spot, it means the world and it motivates me every single day to get out here and do my best.

"As soon as I got that call I knew I wanted to come here. It was Sask first (who called him) and then Winnipeg and I was, 'Oh yeah, I'm going to Winnipeg.'"

A preseason playbook: O'Shea spoke after practice about Monday's game in Regina and what he and the coaching staff, as well as the football management team, might be watching.

"Winning's always good. Regardless of the outcome of the game we're going to learn from it," he said. "What you want to see is the guys have a good understanding of how they need to play the game. You need to see them take all the reps they've had in training camp and apply it out there on the field. They're not going to be mistake-free, but you want to see guys play hard even through mistakes and not think as much and see how much they know their stuff.

"There's going to be so much information to digest after this game... I don't even know if we're going to be able to list all the stuff you would see. Some of the stuff isn't even on a list and you just notice the way a play unfolds and you go, 'Ahh, that's interesting' and you mark it down. Certainly in this one you want to see guys play the game the way it should be played. There's going to be mistakes, there always is. And if we limit them, we'll be happier than if we make a bunch of them. We all understand the framework of what we're dealing with here."

Ultimately, Monday — and the preseason finale on May 31 vs. Calgary — is about guys fighting for jobs.

Mike O'Shea


"And as coaches we cannot take that lightly," he said. "We've got to make sure they're fresh enough to play, have a good handle on what's going to be called – what they're being asked to do – and don't over-tax them in that regard. Like I said earlier in the week, we're not trying to smash them with stuff and see who comes out. We want to this one to be they feel good, they feel comfortable, and they can show us what they can do. I don't know why we would eliminate guys just by overloading them for the sake of over-loading them. I don't know if that makes sense.

"Let's see what they can do out there so we put them in spots with things they can do and not miss on a guy."

FYI:
O'Shea and his staff were still finalizing their roster for Monday's preseason game Saturday afternoon, but he did confirm Zach Collaros would not be making the trip. Chris Streveler, Terry Wilson and Eric Barriere handled the bulk of the work during Saturday's practice, with Collaros getting some throws in and then watching the rest of the session... Players who have yet to practice SB Nic Demski, RB Brady Oliveira and S Brandon Alexander... O'Shea on what attracted the club to offensive tackle Eric Lofton — the former Bomber who started 14 games at right tackle for the Riders last year — in free agency: "He's been there and done it. That kind of experience in our game, understanding how to play that edge and widen it, how defences attack you... look at our team — we love experience. So when we go to free agency we're often looking at guys that have experience."

Comings/goings:
The Blue Bombers added two and released two on Saturday, bringing aboard receiver Josh Vann (5-10, 190, South Carolina) and defensive back Michael Griffin (5-11, 210, South Dakota State). Released were receiver K.J. Hill and defensive back Marcus Hillman. O'Shea on Hill, who arrived in camp with a bit of hype as the all-time leading receiver at Ohio State: "His body just wasn't responding."

Next:
The Blue Bombers travel to Regina on Sunday before Monday's first preseason game against the Saskatchewan Roughriders on Victoria Day Monday, with the kickoff at 3 p.m. CDT.

"You can't let praise or criticism get to you. It's a weakness to get caught up in either one." - John Wooden

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Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on May 18, 2024, 03:27:18 PMI hope they judge the rookie QB's by over all skill potential and not just 3rd down sneak ability, with the departure of Dru Brown they have to start over finding the QB that will take over when Zach retires, and I don't think it will be Streveler.  It would be a pity to cut one of these young QB's only to see them find success with another team.

Meh,teams cant gaurentee QBs will even stick around once they are ready to take over the starter job.

Exibit A; Dru Brown.

Most QBs dont stay with the team that developed them. Guys like Bo Levi are the exception.

Just hope the 3rd QB is serviceable and is not a liability when called upon. Next year is next year.

Sir Blue and Gold

#134
I've been a bit busy but here's my training camp observations today:

A great day for defense or a bad day for offense. Chris Streveler really strugged throwing the ball. I counted four interceptions from him alone. Ford got one. McGee had another. I suppose it's to be expected reintegrating into a CFL offense. Mechanically he's better than when he left but there's no sugar coating how bad he was today. It was not good.

Chris Smith looked great for an import running back. Fast (which we knew) but he plays fast too. He dominated his reps in his one on ones. Two long TDs and he seemingly can really catch. If he looks like that in games he's going to be hard to cut.

Ford took a ton of reps at field corner and Terrell Bonds took a ton of boundary corner snaps.

Dobson was snapping and was pretty inconsistent with it too.

Jordan Younger quite an animated coach who I think the players respond too.

Both third string hopefuls took turns making a few plays and struggling too. Terry Wilson a bit better with his legs. Barriere ran a bit too but was better from the pocket.