Bombers Off Season

[ModAdmin]

It's inevitable that a player like BO20 is going to, at the very least, explore what opportunities are available to him.  He is coming off a stellar year as far as performance is concerned.  It would be hard to rationalize anyone not being open to offers.  Pretty simple concept IMHO.

[theaardvark]

That's not an old saying or a new saying. It's not a saying at all. The rest of this post reads as pure entitlement and/or hot garbage. We ran Oliveria hard for two straight years and got a great return on investment. From a production point of view he was totally underpaid last year. He owes the Bombers nothing and quite likely gave the Bombers the best year and a half of his career. Most running backs start declining at age 28.

We either pay him or we don't, it's a team decision, and the business side of football is hard but don't try to make it seem like he needs to stay put out of loyalty to the city, the team, or 'you' as a fan. Such hogwash.

Did you read the post?

Do you deny we signed him over Harris?

Do you deny that he had an offense anchored by the best Oline in the league, and coached by an OC that schemed for BO20's strength?

Yes, BO20 performed admirably, and more than earned the contract he agreed to.  And has earned the paycheck that he will sign for, where ever he signs.

Just saying that he's not going to ge a better opportunity to continue to thrive anywhere else, and that the WFC no doubt will offer him a very competitive contract, which when taking into account the savings of playing at home, and the potential for post season money (which he did get the last 4 seasons, in addition to his contract), should be pretty hard to ignore. 

I would never compare his current situation to the one Harris had going to the Argos, Brady is (as far as we know) in good shape and healthy.  NFL aspirations aside, there's no better anding spot for him than here.

Its not just loyalty to the city, the team or the fan, but that does factor in (see Rasheed Bailey, Kenny Lawler, and myriad others).   There's no denying that he is entitled to sign where he wants, for whatever deal he wants.  How one does that, a completely different thing.  If he takes the road that players like Muamba/Harris took, he will tarnish his image from a WFC fan standpoint.  And it won't help his post career life if he's thinking about staying here and saving puppies full time.

There's more to a deal than just numbers, and no one can offer him the intangibles the WFC club can.  He should be careful how he plays these next few months. Or not, his decision.

[Sir Blue and Gold]

Did you read the post?

Do you deny we signed him over Harris?

Do you deny that he had an offense anchored by the best Oline in the league, and coached by an OC that schemed for BO20's strength?

Yes, BO20 performed admirably, and more than earned the contract he agreed to.  And has earned the paycheck that he will sign for, where ever he signs.

Just saying that he's not going to ge a better opportunity to continue to thrive anywhere else, and that the WFC no doubt will offer him a very competitive contract, which when taking into account the savings of playing at home, and the potential for post season money (which he did get the last 4 seasons, in addition to his contract), should be pretty hard to ignore. 

I would never compare his current situation to the one Harris had going to the Argos, Brady is (as far as we know) in good shape and healthy.  NFL aspirations aside, there's no better anding spot for him than here.

Its not just loyalty to the city, the team or the fan, but that does factor in (see Rasheed Bailey, Kenny Lawler, and myriad others).   There's no denying that he is entitled to sign where he wants, for whatever deal he wants.  How one does that, a completely different thing. If he takes the road that players like Muamba/Harris took, he will tarnish his image from a WFC fan standpoint.  And it won't help his post career life if he's thinking about staying here and saving puppies full time.

There's more to a deal than just numbers, and no one can offer him the intangibles the WFC club can.  He should be careful how he plays these next few months. Or not, his decision.

You've reverted to peak Aardvark I see.

[blue_gold_84]

If he takes the road that players like Muamba/Harris took, he will tarnish his image from a WFC fan standpoint.  And it won't help his post career life if he's thinking about staying here and saving puppies full time.

This commentary is gross. You're better than this.

You've reverted to peak Aardvark I see.

And how. Homie's having a day.

[theaardvark]

This commentary is gross. You're better than this.

And how. Homie's having a day.

Question.  After his antics, visiting every other CFL town, snubbing the WFC that drafted and developed him, would you have welcomed back Muamba?  Granted, his actions were over the top, and Brady hasn't even scratched the surface of what Henoc did, but I know I never wanted to see Muamba in blue and gold again.  Regardless his talent.  And if he came back to the city and opened a business, I wouldn't frequent it.

Brady has been a team player, and a true Bomber great, biding his time while AH33 had the spotlight, and stepping up his game in AH33's absence.  I'd just hate him to hurt that unnecessarily. 

[blue_gold_84]

Question.  After his antics, visiting every other CFL town, snubbing the WFC that drafted and developed him, would you have welcomed back Muamba?  Granted, his actions were over the top, and Brady hasn't even scratched the surface of what Henoc did, but I know I never wanted to see Muamba in blue and gold again.  Regardless his talent.  And if he came back to the city and opened a business, I wouldn't frequent it.

Brady has been a team player, and a true Bomber great, biding his time while AH33 had the spotlight, and stepping up his game in AH33's absence.  I'd just hate him to hurt that unnecessarily. 

Muamba went to the NFL for a while and returned to the CFL with an ostensibly inflated ego. His free agent tour was laughable and he didn't even consider the beleaguered 2015 Blue Bombers, so your question isn't worth answering because there is no comparison to be made with regard to Oliveira's current situation.

I can't imagine most athletes give a rip what fans think of them or the decisions they make in order to serve their interests in a profession that can be harsh and unforgiving.

You can personalize any and all of it however you choose.

[theaardvark]

Muamba went to the NFL for a while and returned to the CFL with an ostensibly inflated ego. His free agent tour was laughable and he didn't even consider the beleaguered 2015 Blue Bombers, so your question isn't worth answering because there is no comparison to be made with regard to Oliveira's current situation.

I can't imagine most athletes give a rip what fans think of them or the decisions they make in order to serve their interests in a profession that can be harsh and unforgiving.

You can personalize any and all of it however you choose.

Really?  I can tell you that running into Showtime Sheed this spring at the stadium for one of the events, he was super pumped by the fans coming to him and thanking his for staying and choosing to play for us rather than just chasing cash.  I know, he stayed for his brothers, but the look on his face when the fans showed appreciation, he certainly "gave a rip". 

Not saying all players do, but quite a few are not playing just for the $$$, all things being close to equal. 

Brady, as a home town boy, with his contributions to date and in the future, could live high off the hog in Winnipeg for a long, long time if he chose to stay.  If that legacy is not important to him, then sure, "Where will I land" is perfectly fine. 

[Pete]

With Olivera its also just a way of negotiating, if a team thinks you only want to play for them, they're going to take advantage of it.
As a player you want to create a competitive demand for your services. Once he signs we'll all welcome him with open arms

[theaardvark]

With Olivera its also just a way of negotiating, if a team thinks you only want to play for them, they're going to take advantage of it.
As a player you want to create a competitive demand for your services. Once he signs we'll all welcome him with open arms

Walters is the last guy you have to play coy with, the last guy that will play that game of "Oh, every team wants me, you need to pay more!".  If anything, it seems like he'd say "OK, here's what I'll pay, notice its the same as what I offered before, and if you can't get a better deal before I sign someone to fill that position, the offer stands.  But once I fill the spot, all bets are off, and THAT deal goes away, and we start negotiating from scratch."   

Harris got lucky that Pinball signed him after we filled his spot with Brady.  I have no doubt Brady can find a deal elsewhere in the league for whatever Walters is currently offering, but he will make a lot less if he just makes the same.

[DM83]

Andrew kind of salvaged his later career as an elder statesman. I thought he was in decent shape, contributed when asked.  He looked good.  Now not sure he would want to keep doing football.  He has to be hurting.  But in the role the Argos used him he looked great.  Keep on going old timer!

[dd]

Andrew kind of salvaged his later career as an elder statesman. I thought he was in decent shape, contributed when asked.  He looked good.  Now not sure he would want to keep doing football.  He has to be hurting.  But in the role the Argos used him he looked great.  Keep on going old timer!

Harris looked and played like an old man last season because he is one. Bombers made the right call 100% to move on after his refusal to workout and prove his physical condition. If he plays this season it will be a massive mistake. Don't tarnish your career by hanging on too long and look a fraction of your former self. Aging happens to everyone.

[theaardvark]

AH33 is already retired, heading to a coaching position in BC junior...

https://3downnation.com/2023/02/10/argos-rb-andrew-harris-to-become-head-coach-of-cjfls-vancouver-island-raider-in-2024/

[DM83]

Ards?really.
cFL back up or bc Junior league head coach?

If he?s done, which I thought he was, two years ago. However last year, as a part-time back up, he looked good.
I agree he should fade away, if he is done.  Living in BC, pretending to be a Junior coach, with little previous experience managing the off field and on requirements????an unappreciated job. 

Clearly no traditional job prospects off the field, that I have heard.  Living the dream ?  I am sure he could be a representative for some company but is he wired that way? 

I have never met him. Just an opinion.  I respect his story and wish him the best. 

[Waffler]

I am still upset he dissed us when he left but I have to defend him now. He was a first class guy here in the Peg, especially I remember him being everywhere during the CFL week we hosted. Working hard and helping where he could. He did work here in sales, vehicles. I think he is coaching junior because he wants to. Wish him well.

[TecnoGenius]

I am still upset he dissed us when he left but I have to defend him now. He was a first class guy here in the Peg, especially I remember him being everywhere during the CFL week we hosted. Working hard and helping where he could. He did work here in sales, vehicles. I think he is coaching junior because he wants to. Wish him well.

AH33 is the biggest part of why we finally got to, and won, the cups.  Check out my avatar.  WPG owes him everything.  I love Brady, and everything these days is Brady this Brady that... but look at the 107 & 108 cups: when it mattered most in the 4th Q AH33 got those extra effort yards-after-contact.  He put us in 2nd & short, or bailed us out of 17 yard holes.  In 109 & 110, in the same situations, Brady got stuffed.  Sure, there's other things that were different, but when it came down to putting the team and game on their back, Andrew got it done.  And that's just the on-field differences he made.  He was clearly also the heart of the team in the LR and pep talks.  I don't think we ever recovered from that loss.

I think he'll be great coaching junior, and maybe he'll help shape the next AH.  I just pretend his time in TOR never existed, as I'm sure he will when it boils down to it.