Bombers Off Season

[Waffler]

Don't see it, Zach didn't have a down season nor was he injured for a significant portion of the season, these are the main reasons a discount is requested.

Harris and Mitchell both took hair cuts this off season so there is that precedent. Zach has to decide if he is ok being 2-2 in Grey Cups here. I think with what we pay him now we don't get back again. If you want to point at a deficiency I would say both interceptions and that he seems to not be able to scramble for time like he used to do.  In fact I'm going to be radical and say it's take a pay cut or we should go with Dru Brown.  I expect to be flamed of course but I see other teams getting better while we try to hang on.

[Jesse]

Obnoxious? Puh-lease.

He believes in himself and is arguably the top FA going into 2024. Nothing about obnoxious about it.

In the tweet, he added a money bag emoji, which isn?t a great look, imo.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

In the tweet, he added a money bag emoji, which isn?t a great look, imo.

Yah, I wish we could post tweets a little more accurately without having to edit for 5 minutes.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Harris and Mitchell both took hair cuts this off season so there is that precedent. Zach has to decide if he is ok being 2-2 in Grey Cups here. I think with what we pay him now we don't get back again. If you want to point at a deficiency I would say both interceptions and that he seems to not be able to scramble for time like he used to do.  In fact I'm going to be radical and say it's take a pay cut or we should go with Dru Brown.  I expect to be flamed of course but I see other teams getting better while we try to hang on.

Yes, they're hanging on 3 consecutive first place finishes and 4 GC appearances!

If BLM and Trevor Harris did not accept reductions in pay, there's a good chance they would have been cut. Both spent most of 2023 on the 6 game, participating in only 6 game each and losing the majority of them.  How does that relate to Zach having a couple of off games?

[DM83]

What an idiotic post.  Zac is the best QB in Canada three fold, and you are hitching he should not be paid?

[Waffler]

Yeah, I expected to get flamed because he's won here and we are grateful. We have him 2 more years at 600k per. Will we have the team to surround him for those 2 years is a legitimate question. And if the answer is no, then you go younger now while you have a guy here like Dru Brown and spend the extra where needed.  Or do we, as I suspect, go to bat with a weaker over all roster than last year and pray BC is not one win better. We will see I suppose, free agency is not here yet but it seems clear we will be losing a lot of talent.

[blue_gold_84]

In the tweet, he added a money bag emoji, which isn?t a great look, imo.

I agree it's not great look. Social media is by and large a pile of flaming garbage (that's another discussion altogether), but an emoji isn't really obnoxious. FWIW, he is going get paid this off-season.

Yeah, I expected to get flame...

Well, good. The 2-2 GC record doesn't just fall on the QB's shoulders, BTW.

Statistically, he's still the best QB in the league.

[theaardvark]

Brady Oliveira
4h
Hmmm so where will I end up!?
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Jan 8
MOC. Rushing King.

Free Agent!?

Sky is the limit for bradyoliveira in 2024, but where?


https://twitter.com/CFL/status/1744428835343376727

He's becoming Brady the obnoxious.

Well, there's the old saying "Go with the team that brung ya."

BO20 is not the player he is today without the WFC.  I have no doubt, anywhere else, with any less an Oline, or a mentor to develop under, BO20 does not win MOC or rushing king.  Like Cornish before him, he had top Oline in front of him, and if he chooses to go elsewhere, I can't see him repeating his feats with the WFC. 

Do I want him to sign elsewhere?  Heck no.  He is the epitome of "Bomber for Life".  He should retire here.  Like Andrew should have.  Oh, and remember when Walters chose BA20 over the reigning MOC/MOP of the GC? 

If he embarks on a Muamba like tour, and starts that crap, it will severely diminish his standing in WPG, both with the team and the fans.  If he man's up, takes the highest paycheck a CFL RB if offered this year before such shenanigans, he can stay at home and be a legend, now and into his post CFL career.

I always thought he was a down to earth kinda guy, I sure hope that he is.  For his and our sakes.

[blue_gold_84]

...remember when Walters chose BA20 over the reigning MOC/MOP of the GC?

Uh, what?

[Sir Blue and Gold]

Well, there's the old saying "Go with the team that brung ya."

BO20 is not the player he is today without the WFC.  I have no doubt, anywhere else, with any less an Oline, or a mentor to develop under, BO20 does not win MOC or rushing king. Like Cornish before him, he had top Oline in front of him, and if he chooses to go elsewhere, I can't see him repeating his feats with the WFC. 

Do I want him to sign elsewhere?  Heck no.  He is the epitome of "Bomber for Life".  He should retire here.  Like Andrew should have.  Oh, and remember when Walters chose BA20 over the reigning MOC/MOP of the GC? 

If he embarks on a Muamba like tour, and starts that crap, it will severely diminish his standing in WPG, both with the team and the fans.  If he man's up, takes the highest paycheck a CFL RB if offered this year before such shenanigans, he can stay at home and be a legend, now and into his post CFL career.

I always thought he was a down to earth kinda guy, I sure hope that he is.  For his and our sakes.

That's not an old saying or a new saying. It's not a saying at all. The rest of this post reads as pure entitlement and/or hot garbage. We ran Oliveria hard for two straight years and got a great return on investment. From a production point of view he was totally underpaid last year. He owes the Bombers nothing and quite likely gave the Bombers the best year and a half of his career. Most running backs start declining at age 28.

We either pay him or we don't, it's a team decision, and the business side of football is hard but don't try to make it seem like he needs to stay put out of loyalty to the city, the team, or 'you' as a fan. Such hogwash.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

I agree it's not great look. Social media is by and large a pile of flaming garbage (that's another discussion altogether), but an emoji isn't really obnoxious. FWIW, he is going get paid this off-season.

Have to agree, Brady is of a younger generation and probably sees making bold tweets as having a bit of fun and nothing more.  He also grew up under the influence of the NFL and is probably of the mindset that the CFL is a mere stepping stone to an NFL career, much like Rourke indicated.

[VictorRomano]

 

If he embarks on a Muamba like tour, and starts that crap, it will severely diminish his standing in WPG, both with the team and the fans.  If he man's up, takes the highest paycheck a CFL RB if offered this year before such shenanigans, he can stay at home and be a legend, now and into his post CFL career.

I always thought he was a down to earth kinda guy, I sure hope that he is.  For his and our sakes.

We don't need any more young guys in this town becoming a team distraction while taking IG or Twitter shots with thier "money phone".....

[3rdand1.5]

Brady will get paid, I agree I don't think the money bag is great optics, but I also agree he is of the generation where social media and "flexes" are a normal thing.

Being real here he will be one of if not the highest paid RB in the league this year. I am not sure what that will look like, but one would venture a guess it will be in the 180k to 210k range which would be around a 100% raise, so from that perspective good on him! You have to take into account his agent gets a portion, so really is 160-200ish gross worthy money bags.....Not in my opinion... honestly making sub $200k is well above average but a far cry from flexing money bags....sorry to be the realist but with today's prices, a gross salary of 160k-200k you are not flexing Porsches and fancy houses and diamonds...or money bags..., you are probably able to afford a Subaru and decent 3 bedroom home in Winnipeg, have a full fridge and a small discretionary income left over.... Heck that salary in many places in Canada and you aren't even qualifying for a nice 3 bed detached house even without the Subaru.

In summary he will get a great raise, but unless he makes it into the NFL and sees some actual roster time....which, without even so much as one known tryout thus far is fair to say would be a long shot at best, put the image of money bags away

My 2 cents

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Brady will get paid, I agree I don't think the money bag is great optics, but I also agree he is of the generation where social media and "flexes" are a normal thing.

Being real here he will be one of if not the highest paid RB in the league this year. I am not sure what that will look like, but one would venture a guess it will be in the 180k to 210k range which would be around a 100% raise, so from that perspective good on him! You have to take into account his agent gets a portion, so really is 160-200ish gross worthy money bags.....Not in my opinion... honestly making sub $200k is well above average but a far cry from flexing money bags....sorry to be the realist but with today's prices, a gross salary of 160k-200k you are not flexing Porsches and fancy houses and diamonds...or money bags..., you are probably able to afford a Subaru and decent 3 bedroom home in Winnipeg, have a full fridge and a small discretionary income left over.... Heck that salary in many places in Canada and you aren't even qualifying for a nice 3 bed detached house even without the Subaru.

In summary he will get a great raise, but unless he makes it into the NFL and sees some actual roster time....which, without even so much as one known tryout thus far is fair to say would be a long shot at best, put the image of money bags away

My 2 cents

I could see him getting $185k, which would set a new benchmark for running backs.  As a comparison William Stanback was the top paid RB last season paying $160k hard money with a Max value of $170k.

[Waffler]

Well, good. The 2-2 GC record doesn't just fall on the QB's shoulders, BTW.

Statistically, he's still the best QB in the league.

Technically Dru Brown had a 139 rating vs Zach at 112. That was on only 89 attempts though.

I wasn't the one that brought up stats anyway, just wondering where we are getting our money from to stay competitive. I welcome any ideas on that.

What I don't want to see is a good QB, mediocre team scenario. That helps no one but it seems that is where we are headed.