Will this year be the year we end the Argos GC dominance over us?

[Lincoln Locomotive]

Mind you since 1950 we have only faced the Argos once and that was last year.    There was mention of the Argos being undefeated in Grey Cups against the Bombers and then we lost in the dying seconds after they blocked a last minute FG attempt.   Here are stats:

1937 (Toronto won 4-3)
1938 (Toronto won 30-7)
1945 (Toronto won 35-0)
1946 (Toronto won 28-6)
1947 (Toronto won 10-9)
1950 (Toronto won 13-0)
2022 (Toronto won 24-23)

Assuming we do meet the Argos in Hamilton, and you know I hate being presumptuous, this stat will still be hanging over us.   Note that three of the wins were decided by one point and in 2 games we were shut out.   The other 3 games were blowouts.

The Bombers have the most GC appearances of any team however we're batting .444 where the Argos have 24 appearance (2nd most in the CFL) and are batting .750.


Appearances   Team   Wins   Losses   Win %   Last Win
27   Winnipeg Blue Bombers   12   15   .444              2021
24   Toronto Argonauts           18   6    750              2022

So there's that.....since it's close to Halloween, is this enough to qualify as the Argos curse over us?   

[blue_gold_84]

Curses aren't real. And while those stats are pretty tilted in the Argonauts' favour, I wouldn't put too much stock into them considering all but one stat line are from 70+ years ago.

Last year's championship tilt was the Bombers' to lose, IMO - and I'll gladly die on that hill. All the momentum Grant's early 4Q punt return generated was squandered by a handful of ugly mistakes and questionable decisions. Outside of Liegghio's missed convert after Grant's PR major, it was a very uncharacteristic performance by a team that had built an identity of locking down leads and playing it safe and smart in order to win - especially in 2022.

Should the two meet again in this year's GC, I have ample confidence the Bombers won't repeat those same mistakes. Does that mean they win? No. I do, however, think that should they have a decent lead late in the game similar to last year, they lock it down and don't look back.

I'm sure this team is hungry to avenge that GC109 loss regardless of the opponent but I'd have to imagine they'd be even hungrier to do so against the Argonauts.

[bomb squad]

Nothing wrong with the question, but personally I'm not going to ponder it until and if both teams have won on Nov. 11th.

[Blue In BC]

I think we end up playing the Als in the Grey Cup. So no this isn't the year to end the dominance of the Argos.

ARGOS SUCK.

[BBRT]

I think we end up playing the Als in the Grey Cup. So no this isn't the year to end the dominance of the Argos.

ARGOS SUCK.

I am not sure I can agree with you on this one. But again I have no idea how really good the Argos are. They dominate against a weaker East and when we played them they really did not have any motivation to win etc. And they did sit a few folks. So not sure how really good the Argos are. I think the Eastern Final will tell us something.

And we have to get by either BC or Calgary (and I would suggest it will be BC) then we can have these discussions.

[Cool Spot]

Wpg definitely hasn't beaten Toronto in a Grey Cup in 70+ years, but if we step back and look at playoff encounters, it's different. Since 1988, listing the winner first [1]:

* 1988 - Wpg 27, Tor 11 (Wpg underdog)
* 1989 - Wpg 30, Tor 7 (Wpg slight underdog, IMO)
* 1990 - Wpg 20, Tor 17 (Tor underdog)
* 1991 - Tor 42, Wpg 3 (Wpg underdog)
* 2006 - Tor 31, Wpg 27 (Wpg underdog)
* 2007 - Wpg 19, Tor 9 (Wpg underdog)
* 2022 - Tor 24, Wpg 23 (Tor underdog)

So, looking at the post-season, it's a little more even with Toronto having the edge in the most recent meetings.

[1] Why 1988? That's the year I started watching football. Of course, we can go back further if required (maybe will do this a little later)

[bluengold204]

I wish you guys would not just assume we are going to the GC.  We need to win the WDF first and should be focused on that.

[blue_gold_84]

I wish you guys would not just assume we are going to the GC.  We need to win the WDF first and should be focused on that.

Because what fans do or discuss on a forum will certainly impact the team...

[Waffler]

There are a LOT of superstitions in sports. You could easily write a book on it. Someone probably has. But I agree with one game at a time. We very easily could have lost to BC last time. If we think ahead we are cooked. Maybe BC thinks ahead though and Calgary wins. Stranger things have happened. One game at a time. It is the way.

[Blueforlife]

Games are decided by blood, sweat and tears on game day.  I find superstitions really odd in sports.  Had buddies get mad at me for mentioning shutout before it happened.  I guess the goalies can listen to fans at home? Lol

Any team will have a tough time with Toronto this year but we have the best chance to crack them.

[dd]

Toronto is due to be knocked off in the playoffs or the grey cup. They should never had beaten Calgary a couple of years ago but did, and never should have beat us last year but did. I think this year is our year to return the favour

[blue_or_die]

Will this year be the year we end the Argos GC dominance over us?

Yes.

[Jesse]

Yes.

+1

[GOLDMEMBER]

Yes.

+1

[The Fresh Prince Of Belair, MB]

Yeah I'm not too concerned about what happened in 1950 and earlier.
A member of that 1950 team would be 93 today if they were 20 years old in '50.
As for that 1945 team? We are closer to the year 2100 than 1945.