Will we go shopping for special teams

Started by 3rdand1.5, September 17, 2023, 02:24:58 AM

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Waffler

Quote from: GOLDMEMBER on September 19, 2023, 09:54:16 PM
I think Walter will be riding the pine the rest of the way. He won?t be back next year anyways.
If so, would he not be busy selling our future to win this year? More cups, more money?
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GOLDMEMBER

Quote from: Blue In BC on September 19, 2023, 01:25:52 PM
Thinking outside the box is one thing. Thinking out side the padded room is another. Trade a potential starting Canadian for an import that will be a free agent in 2024. That's just nuts.

Trading Schoen? That's not thinking outside the box. It's just stirring the pot needlessly. You may as well suggest trading Collaros.
Just ignore his posts they are stumbling into lunacy.
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GOLDMEMBER

Quote from: Waffler on September 19, 2023, 10:53:30 PM
If so, would he not be busy selling our future to win this year? More cups, more money?
True I am just going on a hunch.
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Pete

We are definitely in win mode. With the makeup of this team and salary cap our chances of winning will not go up in the next year, but we can focus on not letting them go down.  On defense if we can play Jeffcoat a little smarter i.e. having adequate rotational linemen to lessen his load, we likely need to find one above average dt so our ends aren't having to play against double teams all year which also takes a toll. Our dbs are still in prime. A trio of Wilson, Clements and Bighill is fine,. .
as far as sam goes I like  leaving Kramdl as sam and going with 4 import lineman, Hall's defense is predicated on the pass rush.
Offensively I'd try to maintain the players we have and use our #1 draft pick on oline. All other picks use for a fb and sts players

|The other position i would like to see is eliminating the fb and utilizing a tight end instead. with defenses relying on pressure it gives us much better options. If it's an import position, we may have to go with 3 canadian receivers.
The good thing also is next year Toronto will not have the luxury of a cheap qb.

DM83

We have a good set of DBs? Good for what?

Pete

#50
Holm, Nichols are potential allstars,Alexander is solid, Houston leads the league in takeaways and we are number 1 in the fewest passing yds given up. So yeah I thinkr dbs are more than ok.
What are you basing your comment on?

DM83

oMG.

How about passes challenged, knockdowns, missed tackles?
If you enjoy watching DBs with a name. That sounds like Hose, continually play such a large cushion every play, then close to try to make a tag, er tackle, and miss and allow a five yard out become a35 yard play, Ultimate frisbee beckons.

Secondly, the DBs that undercut passes and close to the incorrect shoulder to do so, and give up long results as a result of this seemingly Coach approved technique, is a sure ticket to the Grey Cup party I am going to watch at in Winnipeg.   Winning teams just don?t play so selfishly, poorly, ignorantly or so irresponsible. 

Aaaghhhh

Pete

#52
Quote from: DM83 on September 24, 2023, 05:19:21 PM
oMG.

How about passes challenged, knockdowns, missed tackles?
If you enjoy watching DBs with a name. That sounds like Hose, continually play such a large cushion every play, then close to try to make a tag, er tackle, and miss and allow a five yard out become a35 yard play, Ultimate frisbee beckons.

Secondly, the DBs that undercut passes and close to the incorrect shoulder to do so, and give up long results as a result of this seemingly Coach approved technique, is a sure ticket to the Grey Cup party I am going to watch at in Winnipeg.   Winning teams just don?t play so selfishly, poorly, ignorantly or so irresponsible. 

Aaaghhhh
#1 in fewest passing yards given up per game
#1 in lowest opponents completion %
#1 in lowest efficiency rate of opponents
#1 in lowest opponents average yds gained per pass
#1 in lowest td passes given up



But don't let the facts cloud your opinions ;D.

BBRT

Quote from: Pete on September 24, 2023, 05:31:56 PM
#1 in fewest passing yards given up per game
#1 in lowest opponents completion %
#1 in lowest efficiency rate of opponents
#1 in lowest opponents average yds gained per pass
#1 in lowest td passes given up



But don't let the facts cloud your opinions ;D.

Stats look good on your resume! IMHO the Bomber DBacks are middle of the road average and as such I would not count of them as a game changing group.

Pete

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Quote from: BBRT on September 24, 2023, 11:01:29 PM
Stats look good on your resume! IMHO the Bomber DBacks are middle of the road average and as such I would not count of them as a game changing group.
just like to have some solid information to help base my decisions. In terms of our defence I think the dline is more the concern if Jeffcoat isn't healthy enough to play every game

theaardvark

The key with any team unit is having a game plan and the tools to execute it.  Having all stars with no plan is useless.  And having roleplayers that execute a dynamic plan to perfection can be dominating.

We have players that can play our system, and get results.  All stars here, moving elsewhere, look a lot less effective.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Pete on September 25, 2023, 12:24:24 AM
just like to have some solid information to help base my decisions. In terms of our defence I think the dline is more the concern if Jeffcoat isn't healthy enough to play every game

It will be interesting to see what O'Shea does with Haba once Jeffcoat returns, if he returns him to the PR I fear a valuable lesson in roster management will have been wasted.  If Jeffcoat can not remain healthy to the end there will be no celebrating this year, he's that critical to success.