Will we go shopping for special teams

[TecnoGenius]

Who are all these difference maker players you think we can get and not lose equivalent players in trade? There isn't anybody on our PR that another team is going to give up top talent.

No idea who the difference-maker players are, that are on basement teams.  I guess I could study it, but that's KW's job.  SSK found a way to get good trades at the 2013 deadline, many teams do every year to get ready for the cup.  So, historically speaking, there is someone.

As for losing players: we'd have to give up talented guys we like and/or high DPs.  That's reality.  If we want the cup in our window, we shouldn't give 2 hoots about our DPs.  Trade them all away for beef now.

Even though we need 7 talented, capable OL for the cup run, dangling Eli or Dobson in front of an OL-weak team would probably get us near any final-contract-year star IMP.  Gotta think outside the box, even crazy talk.  How about Woli for an all-star DT?  Sounds crazy, but just stop and think about it.  How about Mike Miller + DP for a SAM?  Can't afford Schoen next year?  Crazy idea: trade him for any player of our choice... even to TOR?!?

The key is to trade win-next-year, rarer players (usually NATs) who aren't coming up for FA for will-be-FA star IMP players who will win us games now.  SAM, DT, maybe DE, returner.  That's basically what will instantly make our team better if they are all-star healthy IMPs.  Who cares if they'll only ever dress for 6 games as a Bomber.

Can you guys imagine our team if we had the 2 J's plus the best middle DT push in the league??  And a league-best SAM??  I'd trade our entire set of 2024 DPs and a great NAT just for that.

Time to step away from the keyboard.

Oh I'm on the ledge baby!!  Better believe it.  As someone else said, I need to put down the Pepsi.

The strange thing is, most years I predict (and am right) that KW will do nothing late in season.  This year I think we make not only 1 big move, but probably 2.  I think KW is manning that phone constantly as we speak.

[dd]

We re dreaming in technicolor if we think we re getting a ?difference maker? on special teams. Nobody is giving their best ST players up. It?s like all the other teams saying when they sign Collaros for their playoff run??those types of trades never happen. We can talk about what our needs are, but acquiring them later season, ha, good one!!!!

[GOLDMEMBER]

Seriously Tecno you need to throttle back a bit man. I am concerned for you. You use to to be fun chumming around talking football but now you are so over the top I don?t even bother reading your posts anymore. It is far to much to keep up with.

[Waffler]

No idea who the difference-maker players are, that are on basement teams.  I guess I could study it, but that's KW's job.  SSK found a way to get good trades at the 2013 deadline, many teams do every year to get ready for the cup.  So, historically speaking, there is someone.

Other than Pat Neufeld for Alex Hall, which long term was a terrible trade by Taman, what other moves did they make near the deadline? I can't recall. Geroy Simon they got in the offseason.

[Blue In BC]

No idea who the difference-maker players are, that are on basement teams.  I guess I could study it, but that's KW's job.  SSK found a way to get good trades at the 2013 deadline, many teams do every year to get ready for the cup.  So, historically speaking, there is someone.

As for losing players: we'd have to give up talented guys we like and/or high DPs.  That's reality.  If we want the cup in our window, we shouldn't give 2 hoots about our DPs.  Trade them all away for beef now.

Even though we need 7 talented, capable OL for the cup run, dangling Eli or Dobson in front of an OL-weak team would probably get us near any final-contract-year star IMP.  Gotta think outside the box, even crazy talk.  How about Woli for an all-star DT?  Sounds crazy, but just stop and think about it.  How about Mike Miller + DP for a SAM?  Can't afford Schoen next year?  Crazy idea: trade him for any player of our choice... even to TOR?!?

The key is to trade win-next-year, rarer players (usually NATs) who aren't coming up for FA for will-be-FA star IMP players who will win us games now.  SAM, DT, maybe DE, returner.  That's basically what will instantly make our team better if they are all-star healthy IMPs.  Who cares if they'll only ever dress for 6 games as a Bomber.

Can you guys imagine our team if we had the 2 J's plus the best middle DT push in the league??  And a league-best SAM??  I'd trade our entire set of 2024 DPs and a great NAT just for that.

Oh I'm on the ledge baby!!  Better believe it.  As someone else said, I need to put down the Pepsi.

The strange thing is, most years I predict (and am right) that KW will do nothing late in season.  This year I think we make not only 1 big move, but probably 2.  I think KW is manning that phone constantly as we speak.

Thinking outside the box is one thing. Thinking out side the padded room is another. Trade a potential starting Canadian for an import that will be a free agent in 2024. That's just nuts.

Trading Schoen? That's not thinking outside the box. It's just stirring the pot needlessly. You may as well suggest trading Collaros.

[blue_gold_84]

Yikes.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Other than Pat Neufeld for Alex Hall, which long term was a terrible trade by Taman, what other moves did they make near the deadline? I can't recall. Geroy Simon they got in the offseason.

Rare but not unheard of, Walters made moves for Darby, Lawrence and Collaros late in the season, so it is possible.

[Waffler]

Rare but not unheard of, Walters made moves for Darby, Lawrence and Collaros late in the season, so it is possible.

Yeah for pieces, maybe.  I was just thinking last night that if Kevin Glenn had accepted our offer to come out of retirement we would have had no Collaros trade that year. That one was for the ages, no doubt.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Yeah for pieces, maybe.  I was just thinking last night that if Kevin Glenn had accepted our offer to come out of retirement we would have had no Collaros trade that year. That one was for the ages, no doubt.

Yep, what transpired in 2019 can only be described as a miracle that it happened at all.

[3rdand1.5]

Doesn't have to be via a big trade, maybe a guy on a PR for another team has that special team's pedigree that costs us a late rounder, maybe we have a guy on our own PR, maybe we have a couple names of guys down south that can be a "thumper" on special teams. Look at all the schools down south every one of those teams' fields a full complement of special teams' players, all of them may not excel at their respective positions enough to get pro contracts but there has to be a number that were/are very good at special teams. If you have ever played the game special teams is a whole different animal, its chaos, it's brutal and some guys just excel in that chaos, we need to roster a few more of those guys.

[Sir Blue and Gold]

Doesn't have to be via a big trade, maybe a guy on a PR for another team has that special team's pedigree that costs us a late rounder, maybe we have a guy on our own PR, maybe we have a couple names of guys down south that can be a "thumper" on special teams. Look at all the schools down south every one of those teams' fields a full complement of special teams' players, all of them may not excel at their respective positions enough to get pro contracts but there has to be a number that were/are very good at special teams. If you have ever played the game special teams is a whole different animal, its chaos, it's brutal and some guys just excel in that chaos, we need to roster a few more of those guys.

We can't really "look down south". The solution will be by adding Canadians either now or in the off season. It's our Canadians that are struggling. They are an older group, have been hurt, etc. It's been a season of change there. There are 20 Americans on the game day roster. Almost all of them start. Cole, Clements and Jackson would be the only three you might be able to change out. And all three of those guys are decent to great special teams players.

[bunker]

Rare but not unheard of, Walters made moves for Darby, Lawrence and Collaros late in the season, so it is possible.

TJ Heath!

[GOLDMEMBER]

I think Walter will be riding the pine the rest of the way. He won?t be back next year anyways.

[theaardvark]

I think Walter will be riding the pine the rest of the way. He won?t be back next year anyways.

Walter who?

[Blue In BC]

Walter who?

Our GM.