O'Shea Granted permission to speak with Argos - and is staying with the Bombers

Started by Ridermania, November 10, 2025, 04:57:50 PM

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Quote from: Jesse on November 15, 2025, 06:08:27 PMI think the coaching staff is locked in already.

Likely true but its going to be an issue. Hogan is an awful OC.

J5V

Quote from: wpg#1 on November 15, 2025, 01:23:10 PMWait... let's just think about what you're saying, and others are saying. Upset at 3 Grey Cup losses. What fans of a team in the CFL wouldn't LOVE to have been in the Grey Cup 3 years in a row ? Let alone 5 years in a row ? Win or lose. What fans wouldn't love to have the success in the last 5 years. Regardless of the success over the last 8 years, people are unhappy about the last grey cup losses ? At least we were there. I'm sure rider, elk, red black, ti-cat, lion, stamp fans would love to have what blue bomber fans have had in the last 10 years. And I would hope they'd appreciate the success!
Sheeeeesh
Getting to 5 grey cups is awesome but losing the last 3 grey cups in a row sucks especially with the player personnel we had. I can't help but wonder, could we have won them all with a better performance from our Head Coach and his staff? Did we get out-coached in those 3 losses? I think there could be an argument there. If this is the best we're going to get from O'Shea when we present him with the best player personnel in the league then that is a fail and if O'Shea doesn't have what it takes to get a great team over the top then he better have the best OC and DC possible to help him get the job done. I think that has been a big fail as well. Walters doesn't get a pass here either for the same reason. I haven't been impressed with his performance of late either. 
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Stats Junkie

Paul LaPolice is not an option for OC. He is the head coach of the Canadian men's national flag football team and he is committed to that through the 2028 Olympics.

One name that came up briefly last year is Mike Miller, QB coach of the Argonauts (not to be confused with Mike Miller, Blue Bombers ST coach). He seems to be ready to step into an OC role. Some speculation suggests that he was the real QB whisperer in Toronto, not Dinwiddie.
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Jesse

Quote from: Pigskin on November 15, 2025, 06:28:11 PMI mentioned AH33 last year and most thought it wasn't a good idea. I think the only way AH leaves the Riders is if he gets a OC spot.

Love Brian Dobbie but pass.

Orlando as DC

Burris as OC/QB coach.



AH is a bottom rung position coach. I'm sure he'd leave for any advancement. It likely won't be with Winnipeg under the current regime.

Orlondo was the Ti-cats HC before moving into the front office...you think he's leaving to be another teams coordinator?

Burris has spent the last few years in the NFL and NCAA. I think he's planning on staying in the US as long as possible as he hasn't used any of his CFL contacts in his post playing career.

Also, our GM and HC are returning. They've only ever expressed confidence in their staff. I think it's safe to say there are no open positions to fill.
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Blue In BC

Quote from: Stats Junkie on November 15, 2025, 09:42:54 PMPaul LaPolice is not an option for OC. He is the head coach of the Canadian men's national flag football team and he is committed to that through the 2028 Olympics.

One name that came up briefly last year is Mike Miller, QB coach of the Argonauts (not to be confused with Mike Miller, Blue Bombers ST coach). He seems to be ready to step into an OC role. Some speculation suggests that he was the real QB whisperer in Toronto, not Dinwiddie.

I don't know that doesn't change if he's offered a CFL position. When is the flag football season?  Ten player roster, 5 on 5 doesn't sound exciting for a former CFL HC.
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markf

Henry Burris is not with Texas....

" In April 2024, Burris was named the co-offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach for Florida A&M.[31]"

I checked, because I was curious when his name came up as a candidate for Ottawa, I think it was.

He seems to move around a lot.

Kind of interesting the head coach there...Florida a.m. . Was in Canada coaching, "Colzie was the defensive coordinator and defensive backs coach for the UBC Thunderbirds in 2015 and helped them win the Vanier Cup.[13] In 2016, he was named head coach of the Saint Mary's Huskies.[16] He served as their head coach for five seasons "


Canada is a better path to American Football jobs for coaches than it is for players. 


Jesse

Quote from: markf on November 15, 2025, 10:00:24 PMHenry Burris is not with Texas....

" In April 2024, Burris was named the co-offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach for Florida A&M.[31]"

I checked, because I was curious when his name came up as a candidate for Ottawa, I think it was.

He seems to move around a lot.

Kind of interesting the head coach there...Florida a.m. . Was in Canada coaching, "Colzie was the defensive coordinator and defensive backs coach for the UBC Thunderbirds in 2015 and helped them win the Vanier Cup.[13] In 2016, he was named head coach of the Saint Mary's Huskies.[16] He served as their head coach for five seasons "


Canada is a better path to American Football jobs for coaches than it is for players. 



My bad. Will edit.
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markf

Quote from: Jesse on November 15, 2025, 10:11:17 PMMy bad. Will edit.

No problem... I thought that financially Henry wouldn't be interested in the CFL, but his boss.. the head coach Colzie makes ...

"Colzie who was officially introduced by the university Monday, has signed a three-year deal worth $720,000."


J5V

Quote from: markf on November 15, 2025, 10:49:00 PMNo problem... I thought that financially Henry wouldn't be interested in the CFL, but his boss.. the head coach Colzie makes ...

"Colzie who was officially introduced by the university Monday, has signed a three-year deal worth $720,000."


In U.S. dollars, no less. Wowser! $1,010,196.00 CAD
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blue_or_die

All this speculation about coaching staff changes...guys, it's Mike O'Shea. When Paul Friesen inevitably asks him if he's considering new coordinators/other staff he will go on about how hard this group has worked and how far they've come etc etc.

I'm hoping that the (fairly obvious, imo) weaknesses are addressed between MOS and KW but they're not suddenly going to become changed people because of one bad season - for better or for worse.

In a best case scenario they figure out solutions to our problems and in a worst case scenario it's the definition of insanity and we continue a decline.

I'm happy to have the continuity but after getting completely embarrassed by Nick Arbuckle a year ago and now losing as a crossover team in a Grey Cup host year, let's just say I'm in "wait and see mode".
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Quote from: J5V on November 15, 2025, 10:59:33 PMIn U.S. dollars, no less. Wowser! $1,010,196.00 CAD

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J5V

Quote from: Blue72 on November 15, 2025, 06:05:30 PMWhat do you guys think about bringing in Brian Dobie, Orlondo Steinauer and Andrew Harris to our coaching staff?  Don't think Lapo will leave his warm job.

Jackson or Burris  QB coach
Orlando            OC
Harris              RB/assist OC
Brian Dobie        anywhere for his experience

Hogan doesn't know how to change things at !/2 time to improve for the 2nd half.

Also need better work from our O line coach and D line coach
Agreed. Orlondo Steinauer is such a class act and is very good friends with Mike O'Shea. I'd be thrilled to see Orlondo Steinauer here in any capacity.

I also agree with you 100% about Hogan and his apparent inability to make halftime adjustments. Now that we know O'Shea is staying I don't anticipate any changes though.
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TrueBlue4

I for one am happy the both O'Shea and Walter's are back. I also expect the status quo for the rest of the coaching staff. I'm actually ok with Hogan returning from the perspective that in every job  one gets better with experience.  Having said that if things don't improve next year then we should move on.

I also hope that the team reconsiders it's D philosophy and returns to a 4 man fronts and recruits accordingly. Just a  observation but the 2 teams vieing for the Cup employ 4 man fronts coincidence 🤔

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Waffler on November 15, 2025, 03:17:34 PMO'Shea was being wooed by the Toronto Argonauts, travelling there earlier this week on what a source with knowledge of the situation described as a fact-finding mission.

Argos general manager Mike (Pinball) Clemons was hoping to lure O'Shea back east, closer to his home of North Bay, Ont., and to the place he spent the majority of his career as a player and began his career as a coach.

Speculation was Clemons might offer his former teammate expanded responsibilities, but the source says O'Shea never inquired about the GM title or recommended any changes to the Argos organization.

"It was fact-finding and family-oriented first," the source said.

It's curious the social media posts only mention 2026, as O'Shea's and Walters' last few contracts have been for three-year terms.


-Paul Friesen

So WHO does Toronto hire? It seems it was MOS or bust.

I am wondering if they want to talk to Corey Mace, who just signed a contract but that is for head coach only. He's been DC there, they know him.

Rick Campbell wouldn't be the Argos worst choice to replace Dinwiddie, he's an affable guy that seems to get along with everyone except maybe Amar Doman.