O'Shea Granted permission to speak with Argos - and is staying with the Bombers

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blue_gold_84

List of things I want for 2026:

1. revamped O-line
2. revamped D-line
3. see 1, 2new OC
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Blue In BC

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 17, 2025, 05:50:43 PMList of things I want for 2026:

1. revamped O-line
2. revamped D-line
3. see 1, 2

Add receivers to that need list.

What I don't want is to see some things that look pre determined before TC even starts. We probably looked at 50 plus receivers in try out camps and signings for TC. Was there any doubt that the free agency signings meant there was no real though of a rookie winning out?

Seriously, we didn't even keep a rookie receiver on the PR after TC. That was a bad sign and it was obvious in the early going.
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blue_gold_84

Quote from: Blue In BC on November 17, 2025, 05:55:06 PMAdd receivers to that need list.

That'd be 4th on my list. I'd probably be okay with just one really good FA acquisition in that regard.

I amended my list because I had forced myself to forget what a terrible OC Hogan was this past season. He needs to go away.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: blue_gold_84 on November 17, 2025, 05:44:49 PMJust saw on Twitter that both Walters and O'Shea have signed new contracts through the 2028 season.

I imagine an official announcement will be made shortly.

Great, glad that debate is dead, gives them ample time to turn the ship around.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: blue_or_die on November 16, 2025, 04:25:20 PMMost people seem to have this take and I don't understand it at all. The second Kelly went down everyone had the game in the bag for us. We were instantly the better team and all we had to do was play decently well and we fell flat on our faces. The other two games were horrible losses but last year's shouldn't have even been a question if we were "in" the game. Complete and utter failure.

I feel the 24 GC game was a precursor to this past season, even before Zach sliced his finger he was attempting 30 yd passes when he only needed 6 for a first down, choosing higher risk passes and failing to sustain drives. The offensive playbook has gotten worse every year since LaPo left.

The Riders put on an offensive clinic yesterday, Harris went 23/27 for 302 yds with 0 interceptions, Alexander was stuck in Zach mode trying to bite off big chunks and coming up short.

blue_gold_84

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on November 17, 2025, 06:15:31 PMThe offensive playbook has gotten worse every year since LaPo left.

This is just revisionist history.

This team was an offensive juggernaut in both '22 and '23 with Pierce as OC. Look at the all-stars on those teams, not to mention the statistics. If anything, an aging vet group and some key injuries have led to the decline on offense the last couple of seasons. A healthy Schoen alone makes a positive impact on production, IMO.

Pierce clearly learned a fair bit from LaPolice. It doesn't seem like Hogan can say the same vis a vis Pierce, though.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Blue In BC on November 17, 2025, 05:55:06 PMAdd receivers to that need list.

What I don't want is to see some things that look pre determined before TC even starts. We probably looked at 50 plus receivers in try out camps and signings for TC. Was there any doubt that the free agency signings meant there was no real though of a rookie winning out?

Seriously, we didn't even keep a rookie receiver on the PR after TC. That was a bad sign and it was obvious in the early going.

Playing too many inexperienced receivers was a problem the last 2 seasons, not the solution. Zach demands receivers know the playbook and how to adapt to situational play which requires experience or high football intelligence, which makes it strange that he let them dump Woli, who could have been the stabilizing ingredient after Schoen went down.

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Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on November 17, 2025, 06:28:13 PMPlaying too many inexperienced receivers was a problem the last 2 seasons, not the solution. Zach demands receivers know the playbook and how to adapt to situational play which requires experience or high football intelligence, which makes it strange that he let them dump Woli, who could have been the stabilizing ingredient after Schoen went down.
Let's not forget Bailey too.
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dd

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on November 17, 2025, 06:15:31 PMI feel the 24 GC game was a precursor to this past season, even before Zach sliced his finger he was attempting 30 yd passes when he only needed 6 for a first down, choosing higher risk passes and failing to sustain drives. The offensive playbook has gotten worse every year since LaPo left.

The Riders put on an offensive clinic yesterday, Harris went 23/27 for 302 yds with 0 interceptions, Alexander was stuck in Zach mode trying to bite off big chunks and coming up short.
Yes, they did, and I have been saying I'll take the Riders short-take what the defense gives you game vs our desperate force the ball to certain player offense any day all year. We need another big body reciever, and he doesn't have to break the bank, we don't need a Lawler or Lewis, but someone like Saskatechewan's Meyers would be nice and would compliment Wilson, Demski and Sterns. We need to upgrade our NAT talent at reciever, Cobb and Corcoran just don't cut it. Sask has Shaeffer Baker and Emilius, we could only hope for that combo, we have Demski and ?????

Tecno

Quote from: dd on Today at 01:44:02 AMYes, they did, and I have been saying I'll take the Riders short-take what the defense gives you game vs our desperate force the ball to certain player offense any day all year.

I want to take from SSK the idea that you don't need a super expensive REC corps.  All you need is a super expensive OL and a good RB.

However, SSK has done the dink & dunk for a quite a while, starting under Cody and McAdoo.  And I do recall us finding a solution to it in '21-'23.  Clog the lanes, don't give the QB all day, get hands up, put LBers in unorthodox, unexpected positions.  It is defeatable.  Why we forgot how to do all that this season is beyond me.  We better figure it out for '26!!

So I like Zach's more balanced attack -- not forcing long balls, but making sure to spread the ball out all over the field.

Did you see Trevor/Mueller?  They took only one (ONE!!!) shot the whole game!  Unbelievable.  But it proves they are the king of dink & dunk.
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Tecno

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on November 17, 2025, 06:15:31 PMI feel the 24 GC game was a precursor to this past season, even before Zach sliced his finger he was attempting 30 yd passes when he only needed 6 for a first down

Uh, did you see our short game in '24 & '25?  It was/is abysmal.  Every short pass was picked off or knocked down.  It was pathetic.  Buck really tried in '23 to get us a short game, but it petered out and we moved away from it.

So if every short pass is just doomed to failure, I fully agree we go to a mid/deep-mostly game.  Until we fix the short problem...
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Tecno

Quote from: Blue72 on November 16, 2025, 03:44:26 PMIf they have no money for a good OC than get rid of Jackson, Hall and Hogan, that should free up some cash. If our DC is so good why do we need Hall same goes for our OC.

I think Hall is still 50%+ of the brains behind the D.  As for Jarious, maybe he was useless, or maybe he kept Hogan from sucking even worse!  Hard to tell.  Mafia will figure it out and cut him if required.

I'm pretty sure both Jarious & Hall are not taking up much of the coaches cap.  Wink wink nod nod
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Tecno

Quote from: Sway on November 16, 2025, 02:55:56 PMIf they don't fire Hogan I give up all hope in Oshea.

Be prepared to be disappointed.  The ONLY possible change I can see is replacing Hogan with Jarious -- and I really don't see that happening.  There is no financial way to bring in a "real" outsider.

Make peace with Hogan in '26 now so you're not angry come TC.
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