ontaria wilson released

[Jesse]

unless someone just happens to bump into his agent and wonders aloud how'd Pokey looks good in black and gold

He's not headed to FA. We're mid season.

We only care about the rest of the season and no other teams can sign him.

[TecnoGenius]

The continuous mention of the MOS way with this type of tone is getting a little overstated on here.

It's literally his M.O.!  I would give big odds Pokey would have at least 1 week on the PR before he plays.  And I don't even disagree with that.  You don't just magically know a whole book.  Not even a '24 star player.  It's not bad "tone", it's just noticing.

And it doesn't have to be an insult to the player: you can just spell out the above.  Plus, if they all know MOS will do it, no one will feel singled out.

[TecnoGenius]

IIRC last year the Als brought Mack back and did give him a new deal immediately. So yes it does happen.

The new deal always includes locking in for 2-3 more years though.  That's the carrot.  You get better money now, and we own you for years.  Fair trade.

If we're cheap and hold to ELC, then there's not much carrot.

Serious question: what have we done in the past?  Did we up the ELCs or hold them to it?

[theaardvark]

It's literally his M.O.! I would give big odds Pokey would have at least 1 week on the PR before he plays.  And I don't even disagree with that.  You don't just magically know a whole book.  Not even a '24 star player.  It's not bad "tone", it's just noticing.

And it doesn't have to be an insult to the player: you can just spell out the above.  Plus, if they all know MOS will do it, no one will feel singled out.

I will take that bet!!!!

If he's put on the PR, he is released from his ELC, and he is able to be scooped.

If you want to sit him a week, you have to AR then IR him, and he has to accept the IR designation.

He comes back, he plays game one.

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I will take that bet!!!!

If he's put on the PR, he is released from his ELC, and he is able to be scooped.

If you want to sit him a week, you have to AR then IR him, and he has to accept the IR designation.

He comes back, he plays game one.

After the game clercius, Wheatley and Mitchell just had, I m not even concerned if or when Wilson comes back.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

After the game clercius, Wheatley and Mitchell just had, I m not even concerned if or when Wilson comes back.

Clercius totally shocked me, 1.5 seasons into his career, he put on a show!  Wheatie would have had 2 TD's if Zach could hit him in stride, it's so sad seeing those passes come up so short.  Meanwhile Suitor is raving about Campbell's closing speed when Wheatfall has come to a dead stop waiting for the ball to arrive! LOL

[dd]

Clercius totally shocked me, 1.5 seasons into his career, he put on a show!  Wheatie would have had 2 TD's if Zach could hit him in stride, it's so sad seeing those passes come up so short.  Meanwhile Suitor is raving about Campbell's closing speed when Wheatfall has come to a dead stop waiting for the ball to arrive! LOL

Ya, suitor is out to lunch. Wheat ice has scary speed, trouble is, Collaros can't throw it that far!! Even the pick on the concert, a young Collaros completes that pass.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Ya, suitor is out to lunch. Wheat ice has scary speed, trouble is, Collaros can't throw it that far!! Even the pick on the concert, a young Collaros completes that pass.

I swear Zach throws the ball too high, if he flattened out the arc he'd get more distance.

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I swear Zach throws the ball too high, if he flattened out the arc he'd get more distance.

Agree. He definitely rainbows his throws!!

[TecnoGenius]

I will take that bet!!!!

If he's put on the PR, he is released from his ELC, and he is able to be scooped.

If you want to sit him a week, you have to AR then IR him, and he has to accept the IR designation.

I don't mean we sign him and put him in a position where he can be sniped, of course not.  Although, what's to keep someone from sniping Houston right now??

What I mean is I can easily see us not wanting to play him game one, assuming we have a way to do that.  You're right that if there's no legal way to do that, then I guess he plays game one.

As for hiding on the IR, ya that would be normal for other teams, but MOS/KW don't do that much.  I'm not sure we'd fake it in such an obvious way.

So what you're saying is any high-star-power guy returning from the NFL has to start his first week back because otherwise every other team will just steal them?  And maybe more so the cheaper his contract?  (especially ELC)

I guess that explains all the other teams starting their guys game one (like Mack, Betts, Rourke...).

I misunderstood where you were going with your argument.  I get it now.  You're saying it's not that MOS doesn't want to sit them for a couple weeks, it's that we're forced to AR them or lose them.  I agree, this could be a thing.

[TecnoGenius]

After the game clercius, Wheatley and Mitchell just had, I m not even concerned if or when Wilson comes back.

Pokey still > Wheatie or Mitchell.  And it's not just about making those catches or being open or whatever worked so well for our guys tonight... it's about putting fear in the D and making them heavily plan around you.  Think Kenny in HAM.

No one is planning anything around Wheatie, let alone Mitchell.  Not like they do Demski.

Every time you level up at a single REC spot it makes everyone else that much more open.  You think it was an accident our 3 lesser RECs were all more open than usual today?  That's the Schoen effect, because he's perceived as our #1 or #2 threat.

Pokey back and Mitchell to the PR, unless he has some miracle 200Y game before then.  You could easily put Wheatie on PR too, but right now he has the experience and better game film.

[TecnoGenius]

I swear Zach throws the ball too high, if he flattened out the arc he'd get more distance.

I don't think so.  The high trajectory is what he uses to get the ball farther with less arm strength.  He can't zip it deep like Rouke, VAJ & Alexander.  It's simple ballistics.

[DM83]

We. Need Wilson desperately
We need four DBs desperately
We need skilled skinnier offensive linemen..

Well at least getting to a Jet game became easier to get to in the noenmber  to December period

[BBFANDM]

Agree. He definitely rainbows his throws!!

Agreed on at least 2 throws he needed to throw it lower.

[TecnoGenius]

We need four DBs desperately

Definitely not our problem right now.  Unless you want to replace everyone except Holm!  You saying Nichols is no good?

With Houston back we should have an extremely strong DB corps, AND some depth on the PR.