ontaria wilson released

Started by The Zipp, August 23, 2025, 08:48:50 PM

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Waffler

Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 01, 2025, 04:26:51 AMI don't think so.  The high trajectory is what he uses to get the ball farther with less arm strength.  He can't zip it deep like Rouke, VAJ & Alexander.  It's simple ballistics.
But this means the receivers have to stop and wait on the ball. The first long ball and the 2 point convert are classic cases in point. Zach is here based on what he has done. Fair enough, he's smart, a good leader and has Grey Cup rings but if he came to camp as a rookie with that arm he'd the first QB cut.

I wonder if Elgersma watched the game and thought to himself "I can make that convert throw in my sleep".
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Waffler on September 01, 2025, 11:45:52 AMBut this means the receivers have to stop and wait on the ball. The first long ball and the 2 point convert are classic cases in point. Zach is here based on what he has done.

Not true.  Rainbow doesn't equal waiting.  It only equals waiting if you throw it late.  In fact, a rainbow may be preferred because you can throw it earlier so there's less pass rush risk.  The key is to throw it to the REC in stride.

For Zach this would mean just throw it earlier, or to a spot further in front of the REC.  Trust your guy, have some timing routes, and you can't always wait until you're sure it's the right read.

In both cases an earlier throw is likely a completion because the REC is still moving when the ball arrives.

Zach seems to have an issue not leading RECs enough, and I'm not talking about his range limitations (as seen on the 2PAT).

All of this can be corrected.  I hope they are always working on this with Zach as it's not a new issue.  Sometimes he does better, sometimes not.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 01, 2025, 01:34:45 PMNot true.  Rainbow doesn't equal waiting.  It only equals waiting if you throw it late.  In fact, a rainbow may be preferred because you can throw it earlier so there's less pass rush risk.  The key is to throw it to the REC in stride.

For Zach this would mean just throw it earlier, or to a spot further in front of the REC.  Trust your guy, have some timing routes, and you can't always wait until you're sure it's the right read.

In both cases an earlier throw is likely a completion because the REC is still moving when the ball arrives.

Zach seems to have an issue not leading RECs enough, and I'm not talking about his range limitations (as seen on the 2PAT).

All of this can be corrected.  I hope they are always working on this with Zach as it's not a new issue.  Sometimes he does better, sometimes not.


Probably comes down to Zach's technique, he throws with a lot of upper body strength without using his  stride like a classic passer. He's often in the air when the ball is released instead of being planted, ever seen a baseball pitcher throw like that?

markf

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Odd part is that there were a few really good ball throwers in the league recently that were not able to succeed

Taylor Cornelius, and forget  his name, the guy that started for Hamilton, also Jake Maier.

Meanwhile Fajardo won the Grey Cup.


Waffler

Prokop, Dolegala were here. They had cannon like arms. You need more than just that.  My concern is the drop off from Zach's 2019 arm to now. And to expect him to change his throwing mechanics at age 37 seems unrealistic.

https://youtu.be/BarieCgaQXE?t=235

posting similar play to 2 point conversion, from 2022. No rainbows here.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: markf on September 01, 2025, 04:12:20 PMOdd part is that there were a few really good ball throwers in the league recently that were not able to succeed

Taylor Cornelius, and forget  his name, the guy that started for Hamilton, also Jake Maier.

Meanwhile Fajardo won the Grey Cup.



Need good arm + good brain.

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Pete

some great news Pokey signed with an extension! Way to go Walters!

Blue In BC

Ok. He needs to be on the AR for the BB. The only question is does he replace Schoen who might be injured again, or does he replace Mitchell?
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Waffler

Awesome news. The extension is for one extra year, 2026.
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Waffler

Quote from: Blue In BC on September 01, 2025, 05:41:22 PMOk. He needs to be on the AR for the BB. The only question is does he replace Schoen who might be injured again, or does he replace Mitchell?

Isn't Wheatfall in his spot right now? It will take some shuffling. Should be interesting.
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Blue In BC

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Quote from: Waffler on September 01, 2025, 05:47:17 PMIsn't Wheatfall in his spot right now? It will take some shuffling. Should be interesting.

Yes after looking at depth charts for last year. However Wheatfall played at SB also in 2024. I think it comes down to injuries and deciding on the best combination.

I thought we might see Moore replace Mitchell next week. Schoen possibly getting injured may have thrown a wrench into that.  So we may see  two changes to the receiving group but where anybody can play at the highest level is a TBD.

If Schoen can play then we might not see Moore, we'll see Wilson added instead with Mitchell coming out?  You'd think that Mitchell will be the odd man out regardless IMO.
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Jesse

This is great news.

Everything we wanted is falling into place.
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Pigskin

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I knew the Bombers would announce this today. Had a little inside info. lol. Glad he's back.
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Strevy

A prime Jerry Rice would still struggle in this Pop Warner offence.  That said, the timing is good as I don't think we see DS again this season.