ontaria wilson released

Started by The Zipp, August 23, 2025, 08:48:50 PM

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Blueforlife

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Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 31, 2025, 10:58:17 PMIt's literally his M.O.!  I would give big odds Pokey would have at least 1 week on the PR before he plays.  And I don't even disagree with that.  You don't just magically know a whole book.  Not even a '24 star player.  It's not bad "tone", it's just noticing.

And it doesn't have to be an insult to the player: you can just spell out the above.  Plus, if they all know MOS will do it, no one will feel singled out.

Big difference between putting on PR as they relearn to offering a PR as suggested  by the Zipp

bwiser

Quote from: Blue In BC on September 01, 2025, 05:57:06 PMYes after looking at depth charts for last year. However Wheatfall played at SB also in 2024. I think it comes down to injuries and deciding on the best combination.

I thought we might see Moore replace Mitchell next week. Schoen possibly getting injured may have thrown a wrench into that.  So we may see  two changes to the receiving group but where anybody can play at the highest level is a TBD.

If Schoen can play then we might not see Moore, we'll see Wilson added instead with Mitchell coming out?  You'd think that Mitchell will be the odd man out regardless IMO.

Mitchell probably had his best game as a Bomber yesterday yet he will likely be the odd man out.

Blue In BC

Quote from: bwiser on September 01, 2025, 09:53:42 PMMitchell probably had his best game as a Bomber yesterday yet he will likely be the odd man out.

Yes but it's still 79 yards in 4 games. A lot depends on whether Schoen can play. That said I can imagine Moore replacing him if we take Logan off the roster as the returner.
One game at a time.

Strevy

Quote from: bwiser on September 01, 2025, 09:53:42 PMMitchell probably had his best game as a Bomber yesterday yet he will likely be the odd man out.

He played well and seems to be getting comfortable.  Taking him out now would be an absolute moronic roster decision.  So I suspect you may be right. 

Why is Logan playing?  He offers nothing to the O and is pretty bad at returning.

TBURGESS

Wilson likely takes Schoen's spot.
Winnipeg Blue Bombers - 2019 Grey Cup Champs.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: markf on September 01, 2025, 04:12:20 PMOdd part is that there were a few really good ball throwers in the league recently that were not able to succeed

Taylor Cornelius, and forget  his name, the guy that started for Hamilton, also Jake Maier.

Powell?  HAM still has him.  I think he's the next CFL-starter, not sure what team yet though.  Too bad BLM is like the only QB not injured yet this season, or we would have been able to see more of Powell.
Never go full Rider!

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 01, 2025, 05:12:15 PMNeed good arm + good brain.

Or OK arm + great brain.  The only real arm requirement is you can't be Nichols post-Lemonation or BLM circa 2023.  (Though notice how Bo recovered...)

What doesn't work is best arm + no brain.  Some of the NFL-reject heater-every-pass guys fall into that category.
Never go full Rider!

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Blue In BC on September 01, 2025, 05:41:22 PMOk. He needs to be on the AR for the BB. The only question is does he replace Schoen who might be injured again, or does he replace Mitchell?

We shall see if Aards is right or not.  If Schoen is done for then it's a no-brainer, though we've seen MOS put a Moore type guy in instead in these situations before!

But if there are no REC injuries, then assuming we can protect Pokey from being poached, I'm still not convinced he doesn't sit 1-2 weeks.  If he cannot be protected (whilst keeping our Boy Scout image intact) then I guess it's to the AR for him.

The other question is: now which PR guy gets cut.  I'd guess Echols.  There are way too many RECs, even with a Schoen injury.
Never go full Rider!

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Pigskin on September 01, 2025, 06:18:13 PMI knew the Bombers would announce this today. Had a little inside info. lol. Glad he's back.

Cheater!
Never go full Rider!

TecnoGenius

Quote from: bwiser on September 01, 2025, 09:53:42 PMMitchell probably had his best game as a Bomber yesterday yet he will likely be the odd man out.

Let's say no REC was injured in LDC, and let's say Pokey is drawing into AR.  I'm not sure it's Mitchell we pull.  It might be Wheatie.  Why?

1. Both have good potential up side, both might turn into stars
2. Both are similar in style, both are natural outside guys, and so is Pokey
3. Wheatie probably has more FIFO, tenure, and probably puts in more effort
4. But Mitchell may have a higher aptitude RIGHT NOW, THIS SEASON.  If he can regain his rookie year form he's 3X the REC Wheatie is (right now)

If Mitchell can build on the LDC performance and get into a rhythm, he may be the better path to winning NOW.

Wheatie has never scared anyone.  No one plans around him.  No one cares.  Mitchell has already proven (in his 1st 2 years) that he was someone you absolutely have to worry about.

Now, imagine a REC corps  Pokey - Mitchell - Demski - Schoen - Clercius.  That's a heck of a lot for a DC to worry about, and you basically need to double cover everyone except the extra NAT.

Of course, all this hinges on Mitchell regaining form, at minimum.
Never go full Rider!

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 02, 2025, 02:14:13 AMWe shall see if Aards is right or not.  If Schoen is done for then it's a no-brainer, though we've seen MOS put a Moore type guy in instead in these situations before!

But if there are no REC injuries, then assuming we can protect Pokey from being poached, I'm still not convinced he doesn't sit 1-2 weeks.  If he cannot be protected (whilst keeping our Boy Scout image intact) then I guess it's to the AR for him.

The other question is: now which PR guy gets cut.  I'd guess Echols.  There are way too many RECs, even with a Schoen injury.


If Pokey isn't quite up to speed in time for the BB, they can place him on the 1 game IR with no explanation required, as they've been doing all season with a handful of players. 

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 02, 2025, 02:20:04 AMLet's say no REC was injured in LDC, and let's say Pokey is drawing into AR.  I'm not sure it's Mitchell we pull.  It might be Wheatie.  Why?

1. Both have good potential up side, both might turn into stars
2. Both are similar in style, both are natural outside guys, and so is Pokey
3. Wheatie probably has more FIFO, tenure, and probably puts in more effort
4. But Mitchell may have a higher aptitude RIGHT NOW, THIS SEASON.  If he can regain his rookie year form he's 3X the REC Wheatie is (right now)

If Mitchell can build on the LDC performance and get into a rhythm, he may be the better path to winning NOW.

Wheatie has never scared anyone.  No one plans around him.  No one cares.  Mitchell has already proven (in his 1st 2 years) that he was someone you absolutely have to worry about.

Now, imagine a REC corps  Pokey - Mitchell - Demski - Schoen - Clercius.  That's a heck of a lot for a DC to worry about, and you basically need to double cover everyone except the extra NAT.

Of course, all this hinges on Mitchell regaining form, at minimum.

Have yet to see Mitchell move quickly in any direction, the YAC he gained against the Riders was more a comical exhibition of bad tackling than it was a showcase of skilful running. His biggest asset seems to be his soft hands.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 02, 2025, 06:49:48 AMHave yet to see Mitchell move quickly in any direction... His biggest asset seems to be his soft hands.

Like Milt, don't have to be fast to be great.

However, I think we haven't seen his speed because he's not given any gos/posts/corners.  Every catch we see him make (so far) is inside or zone sits.  He sure found the zone spots in the LDC, eh!

His damage in his rookie year was done beating you over the top.  Just torched everyone on deep balls.  I think he'll find an extra gear if he's read 1 on a post.  I see no reason he should have lost his speed.  No real injury history.

And he can also dive for it...
Never go full Rider!

BlueFire


markf

Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 02, 2025, 02:09:47 AMPowell?  HAM still has him.  I think he's the next CFL-starter, not sure what team yet though.  Too bad BLM is like the only QB not injured yet this season, or we would have been able to see more of Powell.


Dane Evans is the player I was thinking of.