Strevy's a Winning .750 QB

[TecnoGenius]

Moan groan "Strevy sucks", "Get Wilson in", "Go with the Greek kid!"...

Strevy has won 3 of 4 games for us that he started this season: @OTT, TOR, BC.  The only loss was @HAM.

I always say/said Strev will win you at least .500.  Ya, so he has.  I do believe this makes him more of a winner than Zach has been this season, eh?

THAT is the stat MOS & co are looking at.  THAT is why Strev will start (and probably finish) every game Zach is bell-rung for.

Not that I don't want to see Wilson in some garbage time series, but I think this should put to rest all the anti-Strev hate.  And no, I'm not the "Strevy" forum member reborn.  I still start Zach over Strevy every day of the week.  But if Zach is down, it's Strev time.

He may not be "good" and his wins aren't "pretty", but he is doing what a backup should do: keep you in the game and win you more than half.

[Jesse]

Such a ridiculous argument.

2 of his wins have taken return TDs and multiple defensive plays.

For most of the game yesterday he had completed as many passes to Ottawa as he had to his receivers.

He was actively dragging the team down.

[RebusRankin]

A guy who has averaged 173 yards passing with 4 tds to 7 ints in his starts is lucky to be 3-1.

[markf]

Wilson is the short yardage guy... that's pretty clear. Nobody expects the short yardage guy on the other CFL teams to be the next starter. The guy in Montreal has done nothing else for almost his entire career.

Disappointment aside, and Speaking generally,  When you consider the situation across the CFL, and even the NFL as far as who is on rosters at quarterback,(starting, and backups)  it's hard to criticize the Bombers, whatever they have done, and will do. Who they've found, who they missed.

It's the hardest job in team sports, there are  not many that do it well.

[Blueforlife]

Moan groan "Strevy sucks", "Get Wilson in", "Go with the Greek kid!"...

Strevy has won 3 of 4 games for us that he started this season: @OTT, TOR, BC.  The only loss was @HAM.

I always say/said Strev will win you at least .500.  Ya, so he has.  I do believe this makes him more of a winner than Zach has been this season, eh?

THAT is the stat MOS & co are looking at.  THAT is why Strev will start (and probably finish) every game Zach is bell-rung for.

Not that I don't want to see Wilson in some garbage time series, but I think this should put to rest all the anti-Strev hate.  And no, I'm not the "Strevy" forum member reborn.  I still start Zach over Strevy every day of the week.  But if Zach is down, it's Strev time.

He may not be "good" and his wins aren't "pretty", but he is doing what a backup should do: keep you in the game and win you more than half.

I agree with everything here.  Folks need someone to pile on and right now it's Strev.  Yup the record shows that even while struggling he has been able to win games for us, which is all you need of your backup. 

Such a ridiculous argument.

2 of his wins have taken return TDs and multiple defensive plays.

For most of the game yesterday he had completed as many passes to Ottawa as he had to his receivers.

He was actively dragging the team down.

I don't think it's an ridiculous argument.  I don't think he is dragging the team down.

Techno provided a reasonable take on the situation imo.

[Blue In BC]

I agree with everything here.  Folks need someone to pile on and right now it's Strev.  Yup the record shows that even while struggling he has been able to win games for us, which is all you need of your backup.  I don't think it's an ridiculous argument.  I don't think he is dragging the team down.

Techno provided a reasonable take on the situation imo.

Absurd view. If 11 yards passing in the 1st half doesn't convince you then it's not worth debating.

[Jesse]

Techno provided a reasonable take on the situation imo.

He didn't at all. He took one thing, the team win, and ignored all context that surround that win.

That is not the definition of reasonable.

[The Zipp]

that win is on the defence and ST and the fact ottawa is a terrible team coached. y dead man walking Dyce (who really should be fired tomorrow morning)

another quarter without a first down.

[Waffler]

We beat a 4-9 team. Team effort, Strev played it safe and gutted out the win, protected the ball. It is the epitome of game manager albeit a one dimensional one. He deserves credit but we can't pretend winning like this can be a regular thing.

[jdrattops]

Wilson could have won this game as well, and maybe completed 4-5 passes.  This will show as a win under Streveler, but much like against Toronto the D and STs brought home this victory.  I remember 2019, but would love to forget 2025 as far as Strevelers performance goes.

[Blueforlife]

Wilson could have won this game as well, and maybe completed 4-5 passes.  This will show as a win under Streveler, but much like against Toronto the D and STs brought home this victory.  I remember 2019, but would love to forget 2025 as far as Strevelers performance.

I like Wilson but we will never know if he would have won.  He would have thrown more and like created more turnovers imo.  He would have had more yards in the air and less running.

In the end winning is all that matters, don't ask you how, how many.  That's the crux of Techno's thread imo.

Absurd view. If 11 yards passing in the 1st half doesn't convince you then it's not worth debating.

Techno and I are talking about his overall performance and record (not yesterday's match or performance).  Nothing absurb about that.  Strev has helped us win ball games.  Ugly wins but wins none the less.

Just because one's view doesn't match the herds, doesn't make it absurd imo.

that win is on the defence and ST and the fact ottawa is a terrible team coached. y dead man walking Dyce (who really should be fired tomorrow morning)

another quarter without a first down.

Firing Dyce now is a terrible idea imo.  The thread is about Strev in general and his record.

He didn't at all. He took one thing, the team win, and ignored all context that surround that win.

That is not the definition of reasonable.

He did more than that.  He provided his take on Strev, his record and what he has done all year.  He isn't talking about one win.  He is taking a overall view of his performance and the fact that Strev has and can win (more than half the games).  That was a reasonable take.

Techno also touched on why Strev plays and finishes the game that Zach can't.  I'll add that Strev'a durability is a factor.  He has shown can stay healthy and play hurt.  He can gut out terrible outing and bounce back.  He isn't the answer at QB but he can also win you a game in a pinch, which is good enough for this season (if our leader can come back).

Strev wouldn't have a winning record against top teams but grinding wins against average and below helps salvage our season.  We don't have an ideal QB situation but that's ok.  It is what it is.

[Pete]

yeah we won games, and we won games as a team in 2019, all the way thru 2024. But every year it got harder. |If you don't fix what are obvious problems its not going to end well.
I put Streveler in that category.
As the stats have demonstrated and as pointed out, the performance was lacking, If we had a running back that never got more than 3 yards but we still won would you keep him? Or if a corner back was getting beat long consistently would Bridges still be here?
   The need for another alternative is blatant, and the fact that in addition to Strev they seem to think Wilson is worse is an inditement on the team.

[theaardvark]

History doesn't win games.  Present does.

What have you done for me lately, period.

Yes, 2019 was a banner year, and we won the cup with a bright new shiny Collaros backed up by an exuberant CS17 that knew no limitations.

CS17 has seen a lot of road since then, and it really, really feels to me like self doubt has crept in, second guessing and pulling throws seems to be the go to, not what a confident player does.

CS17 has a current track record that is abysmal, and without MOS wearing 2019 glasses, would have been cut long ago.

In my humble opinion.

[Blueforlife]

History doesn't win games.  Present does.

What have you done for me lately, period.

Yes, 2019 was a banner year, and we won the cup with a bright new shiny Collaros backed up by an exuberant CS17 that knew no limitations.

CS17 has seen a lot of road since then, and it really, really feels to me like self doubt has crept in, second guessing and pulling throws seems to be the go to, not what a confident player does.

CS17 has a current track record that is abysmal, and without MOS wearing 2019 glasses, would have been cut long ago.

In my humble opinion.

What he did lately is win a game and has a winning record this season.

[Blue In BC]

I like Wilson but we will never know if he would have won.  He would have thrown more and like created more turnovers imo.  He would have had more yards in the air and less running.

In the end winning is all that matters, don't ask you how, how many.  That's the crux of Techno's thread imo.
Techno and I are talking about his overall performance and record (not yesterday's match or performance).  Nothing absurb about that.  Strev has helped us win ball games.  Ugly wins but wins none the less.

Just because one's view doesn't match the herds, doesn't make it absurd imo.Firing Dyce now is a terrible idea imo.  The thread is about Strev in general and his record.He did more than that.  He provided his take on Strev, his record and what he has done all year.  He isn't talking about one win.  He is taking a overall view of his performance and the fact that Strev has and can win (more than half the games).  That was a reasonable take.

Techno also touched on why Strev plays and finishes the game that Zach can't.  I'll add that Strev'a durability is a factor.  He has shown can stay healthy and play hurt.  He can gut out terrible outing and bounce back.  He isn't the answer at QB but he can also win you a game in a pinch, which is good enough for this season (if our leader can come back).

Strev wouldn't have a winning record against top teams but grinding wins against average and below helps salvage our season.  We don't have an ideal QB situation but that's ok.  It is what it is.

The absurdity is using the win / loss as a primary consideration of performance. Yesterday we won in spite of Streveler not because of him.

We've won games with Collaros where he wasn't why we won. Defence, ST's breaks in a game one way or the other determine the outcome. The performance of the opponent as well.

You both are taking a very narrow view of his overall performance. It's been bad whether we've won or lost.