2024-2025 CFL (non-Bomber) off-season discussion

Started by gobombersgo, November 19, 2024, 09:54:59 PM

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blue_or_die

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on January 20, 2025, 04:41:44 PMStrange, I thought he had a lot of things going on career wise, surprised a lowly coaching job would be on his radar. Wish him luck, he's now "one of them".

I think these are mostly partnerships and/or passive business investments/involvements made off his then-fame, which I'm sure has quickly dissipated having not really been relevant since 2021 when he was last with us. This will be his day-to-day.
#Ride?

theaardvark

AH33 is a very polarizing character.  There is no doubt that he had massive talent and a very high compete level.  But he also had a mercurial personality, and things like not subjecting himself to a physical and then signing in Toronto does not scream a leadership mentality. 

No doubt he brought 100% to the field, and his athletic efforts was witnessed on every play.  If that was what was needed in a coaching or executive role, no one better.

While O'Shea had that passion and drive on the field too, you can see a completely different side of him as a coach.  I guess we will find out if AH33 has coaching chops to match his playing skills.

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J5V

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on January 20, 2025, 06:22:56 PMWalters comment on Bighill from last weeks Jeff Hamilton FP article.

4) Bombers head coach Mike O'Shea, when asked about Adam Bighill's future in Winnipeg, noted some of those conversations might still need to be had. I've been told that Bighill won't be offered a contract ahead of free agency, putting his CFL future in a bit of doubt. Bighill has been a staple on Winnipeg's defence, spending half of his 12 CFL seasons with the Blue and Gold, winning two of his three Most Outstanding Defensive Player awards (2019,2021) on the Prairies. Bighill is 36 and is coming off a torn ACL that he suffered in the Labour Day Classic. The Bombers have also signed Tony Jones, who played admirably in relief of Bighill last season. Bighill vowed to return to playing when asked during Grey Cup week, so we'll have to wait and see how this plays out.
Very interesting. Absolutely loved his contribution to the Bombers over the years but surely Biggie is at the end of his professional playing career. Great athleticism to go along with a great motor and work ethic. If this is the end for Biggie I wish him all the best. The man was a beast!
Go Bombers!

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: J5V on January 21, 2025, 02:10:08 AMVery interesting. Absolutely loved his contribution to the Bombers over the years but surely Biggie is at the end of his professional playing career. Great athleticism to go along with a great motor and work ethic. If this is the end for Biggie I wish him all the best. The man was a beast!

Keep in mind Bighill will not be ready for the start of the season, so Walters has no pressure to get a deal done before TC and has time to make Bighill a delayed offer if he wants as long as no other team takes a flyer on him in FA.

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Quote from: blue_gold_84 on January 20, 2025, 06:19:13 PMAnd just like that, Rider Nation becomes fans of Andrew Harris.

This is gross.
A few heads will definitely explode, Harris getting busted for PEDs was the best thing that happened to Rider fans since their last Grey Cup win all the way back in 2013 

Waffler

Jeff Hamilton writing about Harris in the Free Press..

Harris noted a few times during his media conference the Riders were
the ones to offer him a job, adding he had spoken to a few teams in
the process. What he didn't say was he attempted to contact the
Bombers but his calls were not returned
.

It's unclear why the Bombers were seemingly uninterested in adding
to their coaching staff someone as decorated as Harris...

Part of it would certainly be that the Bombers already have a quality
running backs coach in Jason Hogan, who has done an admirable job with
Harris's replacement, Brady Oliveira. Oliveira, who has talked
glowingly about his relationship with Hogan...

Part of it could be a lack of trust between Harris and Bombers head
coach Mike O'Shea that first arose when Harris showed up to training
camp out of shape ahead of the 2021 season. With Oliveira ready to
take on a bigger role the following year, the transition from one
Winnipeg-born tailback to another led to a messy breakup between the
Bombers and Harris, who was given a low-ball offer at the 11th hour
before eventually signing with the Argos.
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blue_gold_84

Quote from: Waffler on January 21, 2025, 03:20:48 PMPart of it would certainly be that the Bombers already have a quality
running backs coach in Jason Hogan, who has done an admirable job with
Harris's replacement, Brady Oliveira. Oliveira, who has talked
glowingly about his relationship with Hogan...

This has to be (or should be) the main reason. Hogan's an excellent RB coach.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Waffler on January 21, 2025, 03:20:48 PMJeff Hamilton writing about Harris in the Free Press..

Harris noted a few times during his media conference the Riders were
the ones to offer him a job, adding he had spoken to a few teams in
the process. What he didn't say was he attempted to contact the
Bombers but his calls were not returned
.

It's unclear why the Bombers were seemingly uninterested in adding
to their coaching staff someone as decorated as Harris...

Part of it would certainly be that the Bombers already have a quality
running backs coach in Jason Hogan, who has done an admirable job with
Harris's replacement, Brady Oliveira. Oliveira, who has talked
glowingly about his relationship with Hogan...

Part of it could be a lack of trust between Harris and Bombers head
coach Mike O'Shea that first arose when Harris showed up to training
camp out of shape ahead of the 2021 season. With Oliveira ready to
take on a bigger role the following year, the transition from one
Winnipeg-born tailback to another led to a messy breakup between the
Bombers and Harris, who was given a low-ball offer at the 11th hour
before eventually signing with the Argos.

Without an OC in place the Bombers shouldn't be hiring assistants for him.  Love Harris but the next two players in line to be offered entry level coaching positions should be Biggie and BA, if they're interested in pursuing that career option.

gordo

Quote from: Waffler on January 21, 2025, 03:20:48 PMJeff Hamilton writing about Harris in the Free Press..

 he attempted to contact the
Bombers but his calls were not returned
.


Was surprised to read that this morning. Calling back with a polite "no thank-you we have no position for you at the moment" would be proper business etiquette, especially for a high profile Bomber alum like Harris. 

Not returning his calls?  I'm skeptical.  The Bombers don't operate that way.

Or there's more to the break-up story and their relationship with Harris then we have been privy to.

 
 

theaardvark

Wow.

We are the river city, and have so many bridges here, but AH33 seems intent of burning them all. 

Not sure how many coaches are hired after "attempting to make contact" with a team.  Pretty sure its unsurprisingly near zero.

Like when he chose to not come in for a physical in order to get a contract offer. 

If he wanted a job with the Bombers, waiting for a phone call to be returned is probably not the optimal way to go about it. He knows where the office is, how about dropping in with a resume?

But, like Pinball, the Riders saw an opportunity and took it, and I have no doubt if Ouilette is the RB, he should be a good fit. 

AH33 is proud and passionate, and I get that his ego can be easily bruised.  I'd just prefer if he didn't bash the Bombers so much.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

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Quote from: gordo on January 21, 2025, 04:52:18 PMWas surprised to read that this morning. Calling back with a polite "no thank-you we have no position for you at the moment" would be proper business etiquette, especially for a high profile Bomber alum like Harris. 

Not returning his calls?  I'm skeptical.  The Bombers don't operate that way.

Or there's more to the break-up story and their relationship with Harris then we have been privy to.

Unfortunately they do, it's been well documented in the past few years they don't do a good enough job communicating with players entering free agency keeping them informed of their status in the broad picture, which leads to miscommunication and frustration on behalf of the players. 

dd

Quote from: Waffler on January 21, 2025, 03:20:48 PMJeff Hamilton writing about Harris in the Free Press..

Harris noted a few times during his media conference the Riders were
the ones to offer him a job, adding he had spoken to a few teams in
the process. What he didn't say was he attempted to contact the
Bombers but his calls were not returned
.

It's unclear why the Bombers were seemingly uninterested in adding
to their coaching staff someone as decorated as Harris...

Part of it would certainly be that the Bombers already have a quality
running backs coach in Jason Hogan, who has done an admirable job with
Harris's replacement, Brady Oliveira. Oliveira, who has talked
glowingly about his relationship with Hogan...

Part of it could be a lack of trust between Harris and Bombers head
coach Mike O'Shea that first arose when Harris showed up to training
camp out of shape ahead of the 2021 season. With Oliveira ready to
take on a bigger role the following year, the transition from one
Winnipeg-born tailback to another led to a messy breakup between the
Bombers and Harris, who was given a low-ball offer at the 11th hour
before eventually signing with the Argos.
I can understand why the Bombers didn't return his call for a number of reasons, the Bombers are set at that coaching position and why rock the boat. Sad it couldn't have ended better for him, but he made his own bed on this one.

Jesse

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on January 21, 2025, 05:23:42 PMUnfortunately they do, it's been well documented in the past few years they don't do a good enough job communicating with players entering free agency keeping them informed of their status in the broad picture, which leads to miscommunication and frustration on behalf of the players. 

Well documented by the players who have been moved on from, perhaps.

I take these comments with a grain of salt.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Jesse on January 21, 2025, 08:46:05 PMWell documented by the players who have been moved on from, perhaps.

I take these comments with a grain of salt.

Definitely, Harris, Jeffcoat and Bailey come to mind, also failing to get hold of Janarion Grant can't be forgiven.