Official Game Day Thread - Sask. at Winnipeg, (Banjo Bowl) September 7, 2024

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Blue In BC

Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 07, 2024, 01:37:51 AMYes, you nailed it.  We never would do that normally.  Our plan must be to use speed to try to jump some of Trevor's short routes.

I think instead of quitting the 3-man rush we are doubling down on it.  It worked fairly well and it may be the optimal counter to Trevor's quick game.

Trevor did not "have all day" back there because Trevor threw the ball away in under 2 seconds on 80%+ of snaps.  I know, I rewatched and timed them.  No matter what we were rushing Trevor was going to throw it instantly.  Blitzes wouldn't have done squat unless you can get through untouched (see that near-game-tying final blitz we did).

If I was SSK, I'm making a plan to have Trevor have 1-2 deep options on every suspected 3-rush snap.  When he has all day back there he should take the time to find the 4-5s read.  And if I'm WPG, I would anticipate this and mix in more traditional rushes and blitzes.

I'm leary of the 3 man rush. I hope they prove me wrong.
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GOLDMEMBER

Quote from: Blueforlife on September 07, 2024, 12:57:52 PMAvoid the perimeter

That shouldn't affect the self proud of very much though Single lane between Saint Anne's and St. Mary's is going to be a pain in the *** as well.
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Blueforlife

Quote from: Blue In BC on September 07, 2024, 01:10:07 PMNo he hasn't.  Thomas has 1 sack in 12 games. Adams has 4., as a rookie getting less consistent reps.
Thomas has been good.  Management thinks so, Pat things so (see below).  He is Canadian does his job and is critical to the ratio.  Yes Jake is not a sack machine but a glue guy, never gets hurt, is very consistent, knows all the assignments and is exceptional against the run.  I trust management and coaches on this one.  DL has been very good imo.  Sacks are not the only stat we use to evaluate a DL play.  If Adams was a better option than Jake overall he would be playing.

Full disclosure I love Adams too.  A luxury of depth.

There are some on here that haven't supported Jake in the lineup and season after season Jake serves humble pie.

Pete

Quote from: Blue In BC on September 07, 2024, 01:12:12 PMI'm leary of the 3 man rush. I hope they prove me wrong.
A key is not sacking harris but hitting him, get him off his game and his effectiveness drops reverting to short passes.

Blueforlife

Quote from: Pete on September 07, 2024, 02:00:14 PMA key is not sacking harris but hitting him, get him off his game and his effectiveness drops reverting to short passes.
Facts are presented above, rattle him! And we shall.  #1d+ Hall is boss Younger has the hunger.
Quote from: Blue In BC on September 07, 2024, 01:12:12 PMI'm leary of the 3 man rush. I hope they prove me wrong.
Blanket coverage is required for a timing / quick drop / quick throw Qb.  Our DL can get pressure with 3 and we will throw every look in the book at him.  Trust the mafia.

Blue In BC

Quote from: Blueforlife on September 07, 2024, 01:55:49 PMThomas has been good.  Management thinks so, Pat things so (see below).  He is Canadian does his job and is critical to the ratio.  Yes Jake is not a sack machine but a glue guy, never gets hurt, is very consistent, knows all the assignments and is exceptional against the run.  I trust management and coaches on this one.  DL has been very good imo.  Sacks are not the only stat we use to evaluate a DL play.  If Adams was a better option than Jake overall he would be playing.

Full disclosure I love Adams too.  A luxury of depth.

There are some on here that haven't supported Jake in the lineup and season after season Jake serves humble pie.

Thomas is playing because he's Canadian. We're starting more than 7 Canadians so he is not critical to sustaining the ratio in anything but a rotational option.  Adams is not playing because he is an import and the ratio limits him being added.  To suggest Adams would be playing if he was a better option is totally incorrect. It's not a one for one comparison / choice due to the ratio. Adams is a DI choice behind imports Garbutt, Haba, Jefferson and Woods on the DL.

Yes sacks are not the only criteria but Thomas DT's are not as good as you suggest and he continually gets washed out on run plays and does not push deep into the offensive backfield on pass plays.

There is no humble pie. O'Shea supports veteran Canadians and players in general. A long list of players like Hurl, Briggs and Kuale lead that list.
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Blue In BC

Quote from: Blueforlife on September 07, 2024, 02:04:22 PMFacts are presented above, rattle him! And we shall.  #1d+ Hall is boss Younger has the hunger.Blanket coverage is required for a timing / quick drop / quick throw Qb.  Our DL can get pressure with 3 and we will throw every look in the book at him.  Trust the mafia.

Harris threw for 368 yards and 3 TD's in the last game against us in 49 attempts. He also ran 4 times for 27 yards. They put up 33 points.  We won because of a missed short FG attempt.

I wouldn't call that blanket coverage and we certainly didn't rattle him last week. We did manage to sack him twice. I haven't re-watched that game again but we didn't hit him all that often. It is a fact that if we do hit him early he tends to get rattled. Missing 2 OL might make that more probable.

I don't know what " facts " you're looking at but you need to look at the game stats. Saying " facts are presented above " is only a slogan you like. Stats are facts.

Now I don't think our defence played their best game last week. Bighill had 2 DT's and is now out. Gauthier only has 3 DT's in 12 games. That's a concern behind a 3 man front.

Bombers are capable of putting up 50 points but this is not as lam dunk.

We'll see whether The Riders losing 2 OL and D. Meyers causes them more issues than the Bombers losing Bighill.

On paper and at home we look to win.  Riders didn't try to run very often last week. Hickson only had 12 runs and 32 yards. Harris had 49 pass attempts.

With Bighill out I wouldn't surprised to see a few more runs early to measure their ability to run  and draw the LB's in closer to LOS.
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Blue In BC

Copied from the other site. I thought this was funny but not in a good way.



Our blitzes are like blintzes. Soft and cheesy.

I sometimes think our DL is still practicing social distancing.
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The Zipp

Quote from: Blue In BC on September 07, 2024, 03:05:52 PMHarris threw for 368 yards and 3 TD's in the last game against us in 49 attempts. He also ran 4 times for 27 yards. They put up 33 points.  We won because of a missed short FG attempt.

I wouldn't call that blanket coverage and we certainly didn't rattle him last week. We did manage to sack him twice. I haven't re-watched that game again but we didn't hit him all that often. It is a fact that if we do hit him early he tends to get rattled. Missing 2 OL might make that more probable.

I don't know what " facts " you're looking at but you need to look at the game stats. Saying " facts are presented above " is only a slogan you like. Stats are facts.

Now I don't think our defence played their best game last week. Bighill had 2 DT's and is now out. Gauthier only has 3 DT's in 12 games. That's a concern behind a 3 man front.

Bombers are capable of putting up 50 points but this is not as lam dunk.

We'll see whether The Riders losing 2 OL and D. Meyers causes them more issues than the Bombers losing Bighill.

On paper and at home we look to win.  Riders didn't try to run very often last week. Hickson only had 12 runs and 32 yards. Harris had 49 pass attempts.

With Bighill out I wouldn't surprised to see a few more runs early to measure their ability to run  and draw the LB's in closer to LOS.

All facts by BiBC...


3 man rush has its place...overused last game and adjustments when a D lineman went in to play on the offensive line were not made. 

Horseman

The 3 man rush gave too much time to Harris, ditch the 3 man DL and go back to at least rushing 4.

Pigskin

Beautiful day for a football game. 22 with a 10KM windy at kickoff.
Don't go through life looking in the rearview mirror.

Blue In BC

I just speed watched most of the 1st Q last game. Watching the riders 1st drive to result in a TD was a concern.

Take a look at Thomas at about the 3 minute mark as he gets washed out and Harris runs around him wide. That's not a good look on Thomas.
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The Zipp


The Zipp

You can physically cover a person for that length of time - it's impossible

Younger hadn't learned

Pete

everyone can see the 3 man against harris sucks....why cant younger?