Winnipeg Jets Discussion - 2017/2018 Season

[blue_gold_84]

1. Minutes
2. Long-term contract
3. Right side
4. Money he wants
5. US team

Those 5 items don?t seem all that difficult. Please explain why you don?t think he could get all 5.

Where has it ever been definitively stated/reported Trouba would prefer to play in the US? And I don't mean rumours on social media or hearsay someone heard from someone else.

Trouba sat out last season because he wanted a bigger role on his strong side. He was given all of that, signed a pretty fair bridge contract, and then rescinded his trade request. And there's been not a rumoured whisper since of him being unhappy, wanting a trade, or wanting to play in the US.

[gbill2004]

Where has it ever been definitively stated/reported Trouba would prefer to play in the US? And I don't mean rumours on social media or hearsay someone heard from someone else.

Trouba sat out last season because he wanted a bigger role on his strong side. He was given all of that, signed a pretty fair bridge contract, and then rescinded his trade request. And there's been not a rumoured whisper since of him being unhappy, wanting a trade, or wanting to play in the US.

Pretty sure credible sources reported it on social media like some of the TSN talking heads. But even if they didn?t, were just having a discussion here.  Where there?s smoke there?s fire...may or may not be true.

[New_Earth_Mud]

Where has it ever been definitively stated/reported Trouba would prefer to play in the US? And I don't mean rumours on social media or hearsay someone heard from someone else.

Trouba sat out last season because he wanted a bigger role on his strong side. He was given all of that, signed a pretty fair bridge contract, and then rescinded his trade request. And there's been not a rumoured whisper since of him being unhappy, wanting a trade, or wanting to play in the US.

All This.


I did explain it.

First if we do trade him he has no say in the matter. He goes. We could trade him to some crap US team with the right side full.

If he hits FA....  think he will get the rest?  A good team willing to pay him huge and give him the side he wants and the min?

I dont think Trouba has put himself in any place to demand all this. Hes got a good gig here and id have to think he knows that.



Sry 84 after All this...  the rest of my post was ment for gbill

[blue_gold_84]

Pretty sure credible sources reported it on social media like some of the TSN talking heads. But even if they didn?t, were just having a discussion here.  Where there?s smoke there?s fire...may or may not be true.

I remember credible sources  after the 2015-16 season reporting Trouba was unsatisfied with his role and being deployed on the left side.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/jacob-troubas-agent-says-client-requested-trade/
https://www.nhl.com/news/winnipeg-jets-defenseman-jacob-trouba-requests-trade/c-282110382
http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/article/jets-jacob-trouba-requests-trade-says-opportunity-not-money-is-the-issue

I don't recall reading anything factual about him wanting to play in the US or wanting more money than the Jets were willing to offer. It was strictly about wanting a more prominent role on his dominant side, which he got.

[gbill2004]

I remember credible sources  after the 2015-16 season reporting Trouba was unsatisfied with his role and being deployed on the left side.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/jacob-troubas-agent-says-client-requested-trade/
https://www.nhl.com/news/winnipeg-jets-defenseman-jacob-trouba-requests-trade/c-282110382
http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/article/jets-jacob-trouba-requests-trade-says-opportunity-not-money-is-the-issue

I don't recall reading anything factual about him wanting to play in the US or wanting more money than the Jets were willing to offer. It was strictly about wanting a more prominent role on his dominant side, which he got.

I?m fully aware of those reports, but don?t play dumb. You know there was talk that he wants to play in the US. May or may not be true, but the rumours were out there. I do recall credible TSN/Sportsnet people tweeting that they heard Trouba wouldn?t accept a trade to Canadian teams (ie sign long term once traded).

[gbill2004]

I remember credible sources  after the 2015-16 season reporting Trouba was unsatisfied with his role and being deployed on the left side.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/jacob-troubas-agent-says-client-requested-trade/
https://www.nhl.com/news/winnipeg-jets-defenseman-jacob-trouba-requests-trade/c-282110382
http://www.thehockeynews.com/news/article/jets-jacob-trouba-requests-trade-says-opportunity-not-money-is-the-issue

I don't recall reading anything factual about him wanting to play in the US or wanting more money than the Jets were willing to offer. It was strictly about wanting a more prominent role on his dominant side, which he got.

Read this: http://www.thehockeynews.com/rumors/article/rumor-roundup-trouba-holdout-not-about-money-but-where-he-plays

[New_Earth_Mud]

I?m fully aware of those reports, but don?t play dumb. You know there was talk that he wants to play in the US. May or may not be true, but the rumours were out there. I do recall credible TSN/Sportsnet people tweeting that they heard Trouba wouldn?t accept a trade to Canadian teams (ie sign long term once traded).

Im with 84 on this....

Sometime ppl read so much crap on the net its hard to remember whos said what.

I dont believe that was a issue. He wants right side top line and he has it.

[gbill2004]

Im with 84 on this....

Sometime ppl read so much crap on the net its hard to remember whos said what.

I dont believe that was a issue. He wants right side top line and he has it.

Read this: http://www.thehockeynews.com/rumors/article/rumor-roundup-trouba-holdout-not-about-money-but-where-he-plays

[New_Earth_Mud]

Read this: http://www.thehockeynews.com/rumors/article/rumor-roundup-trouba-holdout-not-about-money-but-where-he-plays

From 2016?

[gbill2004]

From 2016?

Correct. That was the discussion about when he sat out last season. Only a little over a gear ago.

[blue_gold_84]

I?m fully aware of those reports, but don?t play dumb. You know there was talk that he wants to play in the US. May or may not be true, but the rumours were out there. I do recall credible TSN/Sportsnet people tweeting that they heard Trouba wouldn?t accept a trade to Canadian teams (ie sign long term once traded).

Taking something at face value isn't playing dumb. But that logic could be applied to believing baseless rumours and hearsay all the same. I'm going by exactly what was reported and what was actually stated by both Trouba and his agent, because he signed his bridge deal when those reported and real concerns were addressed by the Jets.

Read this: http://www.thehockeynews.com/rumors/article/rumor-roundup-trouba-holdout-not-about-money-but-where-he-plays

Again, that's all based rumours. Dreger is as reliable as they come but none of that was ever substantiated, which was my point. It doesn't mean I'm playing dumb because I didn't buy it back then when I read it, though. Was it concerning then? Yes. Is it relevant now? No.

More than year a later and Trouba's playing top minutes on his dominant side. At this point in time, I have zero reason to believe what happened back then has any bearing on the present.

[New_Earth_Mud]

Taking something at face value isn't playing dumb. But that logic could be applied to believing baseless rumours and hearsay all the same. I'm going by exactly what was reported and what was actually stated by both Trouba and his agent, because he signed his bridge deal when those reported and real concerns were addressed by the Jets.

Again, that's all based rumours. Dreger is as reliable as they come but none of that was ever substantiated, which was my point. It doesn't mean I'm playing dumb because I didn't buy it back then when I read it, though. Was it concerning then? Yes. Is it relevant now? No.

More than year a later and Trouba's playing top minutes on his dominant side. At this point in time, I have zero reason to believe what happened back then has any bearing on the present.

Well said.

[The Zipp]

Snake bit in OT once again.  Perhaps buff had too much ice time in OT??  Lucky to get a point in that one.  Jets played hard couldn't get the bounces.  Helly had a great game especially in the 3rd

[theaardvark]

Trouba is probably after $10mil/yr.  If someone is willing to pay him that, they will give him the minutes and the right side of the bed. 

I'm kind of thinking we should hold on to him through his RFA years and hope someone signs him to a $10mil offer sheet.  Probably the best return we'd get for him...  4 first rounders. 

Even if its for $8mil, we still get 2 firsts a second and a third.  Decent return.

If no one wants to pony that up before his bridge deal ends, then wait for the offer sheets, and if nothing comes, sign him to another bridge deal and then trade him.

Our D depth is pretty good, and getting better.  I'd much rather sign Morrisey to a max contract length deal at $6-7 mil  than give Trouba the $8mil+ it is going to take for him to recoup the money he left on the table with the bridge deal.

[gbill2004]

Taking something at face value isn't playing dumb. But that logic could be applied to believing baseless rumours and hearsay all the same. I'm going by exactly what was reported and what was actually stated by both Trouba and his agent, because he signed his bridge deal when those reported and real concerns were addressed by the Jets.

Again, that's all based rumours. Dreger is as reliable as they come but none of that was ever substantiated, which was my point. It doesn't mean I'm playing dumb because I didn't buy it back then when I read it, though. Was it concerning then? Yes. Is it relevant now? No.

More than year a later and Trouba's playing top minutes on his dominant side. At this point in time, I have zero reason to believe what happened back then has any bearing on the present.

We can agree to disagree.  Dreger is as credible as they come and he doesn't just put stuff out there for no reason.  Proof will likely come this summer when Trouba either decides to re-sign or not.