Red Blacks Sign OL Drew Desjarlais

Started by Ridermania, January 30, 2023, 02:34:39 PM

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Quote from: Jesse on February 01, 2023, 01:03:09 AM
There is at least something in place already, as Tyrell Ford's rights stay with us if he gets cut from Green Bay.

Can't remember for how long.

Two more years but it was being mentioned about some sort of restricted free agency in the conversations.
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Quote from: Jesse on February 01, 2023, 01:03:09 AM
There is at least something in place already, as Tyrell Ford's rights stay with us if he gets cut from Green Bay.

Can't remember for how long.

That's interesting and I didn't know that it worked that way. To my understanding, when a player is under contract with a CFL team and the team releases the player to try the NFL, that de facto terminates the CFL agreement and the player becomes a "UFA" in the eyes of the CFL. Anything about returning to your original CFL team would be an under-the-table handshake agreement. If I'm wrong about that or something has recently changed, great.

I think a RFA/UFA status would be a good addition (if that already doesn't exist as per above). CFL team retains rights (but only if they have rights, i.e. contract is not about to expire) and when the player returns, they at least come back as an RFA and the OG team has some exclusivity to negotiate. If another team is willing to outbid for services, that other team can compensate the OG team with draft picks. But I don't think that should be applied to a player staying in the CFL and going to FA though. If you want to test FA, you should be unrestricted. Players already take on too much risk and it would be a bad deal to restrict them from maxing out even if it might suck for the team that developed them. Too bad but that's the tradeoff for unguaranteed chrontracts.

Of course if a player's contract is about to expire following the CFL season and the team releases the player to the NFL, like Drew, the player should be considered a UFA when they come back and we would have the same negotiating status as any other team. What happened with Drew IMO is 100% fair.

On that, first of all, this deal is a win-win for Drew and us. Drew is getting PAID so happy for him, and we are making use of our depth and development strategy to NOT pay a guard over 250K and can use salary in other more key areas to remain a chrontender.

I also agree with other comments about Eli being the guy for centre. I don't think he's competing with Gray and believe Gray has done enough to solidify his job as starting LG. I think it's possible Kolan starts as C while Eli gets his feet wet and then eventually becomes starting C by mid season. Kolan is a fabulous depth guy who is versatile and can fill in for injury or jumbos in a pinch. Dobson is the development guy and I believe will get Paddy's job in a year or two, or we lose one or both of our Ts and have to shift some guys around before we find the next bona fide American Ts when we have to cross that bridge.
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Quote from: blue_or_die on February 01, 2023, 01:13:19 PM
That's interesting and I didn't know that it worked that way. To my understanding, when a player is under contract with a CFL team and the team releases the player to try the NFL, that de facto terminates the CFL agreement and the player becomes a "UFA" in the eyes of the CFL. Anything about returning to your original CFL team would be an under-the-table handshake agreement. If I'm wrong about that or something has recently changed, great.

I think a RFA/UFA status would be a good addition (if that already doesn't exist as per above). CFL team retains rights (but only if they have rights, i.e. contract is not about to expire) and when the player returns, they at least come back as an RFA and the OG team has some exclusivity to negotiate. If another team is willing to outbid for services, that other team can compensate the OG team with draft picks. But I don't think that should be applied to a player staying in the CFL and going to FA though. If you want to test FA, you should be unrestricted. Players already take on too much risk and it would be a bad deal to restrict them from maxing out even if it might suck for the team that developed them. Too bad but that's the tradeoff for unguaranteed chrontracts.

Of course if a player's contract is about to expire following the CFL season and the team releases the player to the NFL, like Drew, the player should be considered a UFA when they come back and we would have the same negotiating status as any other team. What happened with Drew IMO is 100% fair.

On that, first of all, this deal is a win-win for Drew and us. Drew is getting PAID so happy for him, and we are making use of our depth and development strategy to NOT pay a guard over 250K and can use salary in other more key areas to remain a chrontender.

I also agree with other comments about Eli being the guy for centre. I don't think he's competing with Gray and believe Gray has done enough to solidify his job as starting LG. I think it's possible Kolan starts as C while Eli gets his feet wet and then eventually becomes starting C by mid season. Kolan is a fabulous depth guy who is versatile and can fill in for injury or jumbos in a pinch. Dobson is the development guy and I believe will get Paddy's job in a year or two, or we lose one or both of our Ts and have to shift some guys around before we find the next bona fide American Ts when we have to cross that bridge.

If a drafted player leaves during his draft contract his rights are retained in the event he comes back before that contract would have expired. So, for example, if Ford spends three years in the NFL he returns a free agent. If he returns this year or next he's back to us under the existing terms with only the time left as if he had played here the entire time.

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Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on February 01, 2023, 01:20:13 PM
If a drafted player leaves during his draft contract his rights are retained in the event he comes back before that contract would have expired. So, for example, if Ford spends three years in the NFL he returns a free agent. If he returns this year or next he's back to us under the existing terms with only the time left as if he had played here the entire time.

Thanks.

I'd prefer the clock stop ticking when they head south so there's a chance the CFL club gets 'their' player back even if a number of years go by in the NFL. Not that players would like that deal very much.
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