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Blue Bomber & CFL Discussion Forum / Re: WEEK #24 PICKEMS GREY CU...

Last post by barbk - Today at 01:34:29 PM

Montreal  (I'm with everyone on this anyone but the Riders)

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Blue Bomber & CFL Discussion Forum / Re: How would a team of the be...

Last post by jets4life - Today at 01:13:14 PM

An NFL team would win by about 70 points.

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Blue Bomber & CFL Discussion Forum / Re: O'Shea Granted Permission ...

Last post by Sir Blue and Gold - Today at 12:35:03 PM

So you're saying that O'Shea has the roster control to keep the team he wants and is leaving to gain that same roster control.

FWIW, Jeff Hamilton has consistently reported that MOS has all the control over the roster that he wants. He may leave, but from everything we know about the Bombers organization and from what I read, that won't be one of the reasons why.

That's a poor reading of what I said. The situation is nuanced, not black bad white. You have three guys who all feel they should have some influence and all three have earned it.

You also have a situation where it seems reasonable to conclude that coach and GM weren't entirely on the same page this year.

I am not sure what the heck Jeff Hamilton has to do with anything? No one is going to sit down with him from the Bombers and explain to him the power dynamic between the three of them. 

Reality? O'Shea obviously has a lot of control (thanks captain Hamilton for his contribution.) Most likely exclusive control of game day and training camp, etc but probably not overt control over long term direction. Walters has some too. Miller also. When the long term version is fragmented, people use their influence to pull in their own directions. This is not unique to football problem either. Plays out in board rooms everywhere.   

Have a different take if you want but I'm going with this one.

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Blue Bomber & CFL Discussion Forum / Re: O'Shea Granted Permission ...

Last post by Jesse - Today at 10:45:29 AM

Ya, but doesn't MOS have all of that here right now?  Some say in FA hirings and cutting/firings.

And wouldn't we have to think that MOS is the "succession plan" for KW, should MOS be interested in that eventually?

My main point being: he doesn't have to move to TOR to get those things.  If he wants them, they are all right here.  And if he doesn't want those things, then they can't be used to argue they are the "main draw" for MOS in TOR!

Another thing that Jeff Hamilton reported was that, if Wade Miller wants to keep MOS around, he won't be "outbid". If there's more we need to do/give O'Shea, it's going to be available.

And it's the little things that Winnipeg does that Toronto absolutely will not. We provide dinner for all players and their families after every game, for example. The club invests money back into the organization which is not something MLSE is going to sign off on.

Nothing about the Argos meshes with what we know about MOS. Now maybe he would see it as a challenge to create that there, but he simply won't have the ability to control any other organization the way he has impacted the Bombers. Wade vs a private owner simply don't have the same priorities.

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