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#1
Quote from: Blueforlife on December 22, 2025, 11:10:01 PMVery easy to rub his nose in it after the fact.

Many questioned the move last December after Pierce departed. Hogan had virtually no experience in such a role and it showed as the 2025 season progressed. One could argue the decision to hire him as OC was a pretty glaring mistake* that cost this team from competing for a championship as the host team.

I don't think pointing out that mistake after the fact is rubbing anyone's nose in it. Hogan's promotion to OC played out as many had predicted. He's a capable coach otherwise and seemingly a FIFO guy if his being retained is any indication.

* one of at least a few, IMO
#2
Quote from: theaardvark on December 22, 2025, 05:20:41 PMVeru intrigued by the decision.  He obviously is taking a pay cut from being a player.  And he has a life/business on the East Coast. 

I guess he's going to see if he can take the MOS / Buck / Mace / Dinwiddie path to a bigger paycheck.

I never thought he had an expensive contract but also don't know what the coaching position will pay.
#3
Quote from: Tecno on Today at 07:31:38 AMWe only care about SMS $, and from an SMS perspective MMM has nothing to do with anything.  It's ALL off the SMS.  (We've gone over this before!)

Ya, I guess if you want to get into the actual real money accounting you can guess at what FY they are using, but to us fans it means nothing.  WFC is rich rich rich with real $, so who cares.  SMS is our alpha and omega.


That's the point. We don't know the SMS amount for 2026 which is why I mentioned Marketing Money. Whether the team is rich or not is irrelevant. The expectation is to not exceed the SMS by much if at all so it has bearing on SMS remaining for other players.

It's also been discussed that most don't encourage just free wheeling and spending excessively more than the SMS because we are a rich team. That's why an SMS was introduced to protect against rich privately owners spending whatever they wanted in the past.
#4
Quote from: Tecno on Today at 07:08:55 AMSeems to be the new common theme.  Not sure if this is just WFC, or a CFL-wide thing.  Brady said he wouldn't do a deal without it.

Fine if things go well.  Dire if there are IR or performance problems.

You were wondering why players were signing longer contracts. This is the only reason for them to accept something longer than a one year deal.
#5
Quote from: Tecno on Today at 07:31:38 AMWe only care about SMS $, and from an SMS perspective MMM has nothing to do with anything.  It's ALL off the SMS.  (We've gone over this before!)

Ya, I guess if you want to get into the actual real money accounting you can guess at what FY they are using, but to us fans it means nothing.  WFC is rich rich rich with real $, so who cares.  SMS is our alpha and omega.


It matters because the higher the MM, the less the SC$. So you want to know how much and in what years he's receiving the money so we're not getting 300k hits each year.

I'm assuming he got some sort of signing bonus which he gets now (and comes off the 2025 cap), but they split up across the 3 years of his contract. Like Blue in BC said, no "new" marketing money will be given to him now, as he was paid out from his previous contract for 2025. But hopefully he has a a nice, healthy MM cheque paid out in each of the 3 years that will take another bump from that 300k total.
#6
Quote from: Tecno on Today at 06:24:09 AMMOS is doing the "buck stops here" secrecy thing when he says Brady & Zach had nothing to do with the signing.  Brady already spelled out Hogan couldn't be the OC.  All of these deals were worked out at the same time, and they are all interconnected.  Ya, sure, MOS & KW get the most & final say, but they need to respect Brady when he says he'll walk -- or just let him walk.


The way I heard him say it, he just already knows their opinions and didn't have to actively reach out to them to hear it again. MOS talked about how Zach had spoken about Condell many times over the years and if you remember Walters' interview, you know that MOS and Walters have talked about this is a reset season and changes needed to be made (whether MOS will say that out loud or not).
#7
Quote from: theaardvark on December 22, 2025, 05:39:43 PMWe might see a few crapshoot guys, like Dillon Mitchell, still signed

D.Mitchell was so not coming back, even before he got arrested.  He couldn't even break the AR for the ESF!  He did nothing all season.  Hot garbage complete waste of time & space.  A guy with great raw talent but lacking everything else.

The "crapshoot" guy this FA will be To Schoen Or Not To Schoen.
#8
Quote from: Blue In BC on December 22, 2025, 06:22:21 PMI'm thinking Marketing Money will be from the 2026 spending. In theory the 2025 amount will have been used.

We only care about SMS $, and from an SMS perspective MMM has nothing to do with anything.  It's ALL off the SMS.  (We've gone over this before!)

Ya, I guess if you want to get into the actual real money accounting you can guess at what FY they are using, but to us fans it means nothing.  WFC is rich rich rich with real $, so who cares.  SMS is our alpha and omega.
#9
Quote from: dd on December 18, 2025, 11:15:21 PMKinda mixed on this one. It's good to get an experienced OC, BUT Ottawa's offense has stunk the last 2 seasons, was it personnel or play calling or both??

It was culture, and all of the above.  Dyce was always in over his head.  He's a lot like Gee Shucks Dickenson The Lesser.
#10
Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on December 19, 2025, 06:24:42 PMCondell is going to have a difficult time getting any talent to follow him rather than staying with Dinwiddie.

Why?  Dinwiddie+Dinwiddie > MOS+Condell??  Culture counts.  Dinwiddie may be able to make a winning culture, but everything I see of him points to him being a massive aaaa hhhh to his players & coaches.

MOS still has more success than Dinwiddie.  Not sure why you'd think Din would be the greater draw.