Winnipeg @ Ottawa.

[Blueforlife]

MOS knows the importance of backing his players and it will pay off.  You don't point fingers when your struggle, you band together.  Strev has his limits to be sure but let's hope he goes back to emergency only mode soon. He could be valuable come playoff time when its cold, miserable and you need a grinder.  Like Ritchie, MOS lives and dies with his vets, the glue of the room.  One more week for Sterns and Parker imo.  Play it safe, key vet cogs in the Bomber wheel.

The players play, and it's time they play well.

[RebusRankin]

Dave Ritchie famously hung onto his vets too long. Not sure that is who any coach wants to be.

[gordo]

Dave Ritchie famously hung onto his vets too long. Not sure that is who any coach wants to be.

Hall of fame coach Dave Ritchie who won 108 games and two Grey Cup rings? Always liked him. Great character and hilarious with his vocabulary full of butchered words.

But I get your point, MOS is loyal to a fault. Strev is the glaring example that is killing us at the moment. And it will likely soon get worse when he lets Collaros come back too soon because his vets get to choose when they come back from injury. Could go from ugly to uglier and unsafe.

Who is more popular than the second string quarterback? The third string quarterback. And he gets my vote for next game starter.

[Pete]

During drills, he gets as much work as anyone else. The receivers rotate so everyone throws to everyone.

During scrimmage, he gets 2-3 reps at the end, once or twice a practice. During these weeks where he's back-up, he's obviously getting all the second string reps.

Thanks!

[Tecno]

It could be a bit of both. Logan was signed to be our returner in the off season. The problem was that he was not deemed ready well into the season. Whether that was a physical, mental or both issue I don't know.

OTOH, he was also an option on offence in theory.

IIRC we gave Logan many returns and 2(+?) plays on O.  The returns were, basically, pathetic.  Jogging half-butt and turtling when impact was coming.  And his plays on O were a joke, one or both stopped behind the LoS.

Greg McCrae did it better.

If for some odd reason we give him another flier (absent a Vaval injury) he'll have to produce FAST or he's gonzo as soon as we don't need him as a returner backup.

[Stats Junkie]

Dave Ritchie famously hung onto his vets too long. Not sure that is who any coach wants to be.

So did Bud Grant. After finishing 1-14-1 in 1964, the Blue Bombers rookie GM commented that he listened to the head coach too often when making roster decisions. That rookie GM was Bud Grant.

[Tecno]

MOS presser: he's starting to get tougher questions, and not just from the Sun guy.  I'm glad they're starting to hold his feet to the fire a bit more.  But you can tell MOS hates it.  Not sure what else he's expecting...  Only gonna get worse if they don't start winning!

[Waffler]

Derek Taylor saying he expects Zach to start. Should do a little more today and in the closed practice tomorrow they give him a full testing. If he is ok after that, he starts.

[Blueforlife]

Dave Ritchie famously hung onto his vets too long. Not sure that is who any coach wants to be.

He is only 2nd imo to MOS on the most successful coaches here over the last couple decades
While MOS has had more success I love Dave the most because of his character as stated below

Hall of fame coach Dave Ritchie who won 108 games and two Grey Cup rings? Always liked him. Great character and hilarious with his vocabulary full of butchered words.

But I get your point, MOS is loyal to a fault. Strev is the glaring example that is killing us at the moment. And it will likely soon get worse when he lets Collaros come back too soon because his vets get to choose when they come back from injury. Could go from ugly to uglier and unsafe.

Who is more popular than the second string quarterback? The third string quarterback. And he gets my vote for next game starter.

Love 1st part

Fine line holding vets to be sure but it's mostly how I would run my ship if I was captain, gotta know when to hold em, know when to walk away.... 🎶

[Blue In BC]

IIRC we gave Logan many returns and 2(+?) plays on O.  The returns were, basically, pathetic.  Jogging half-butt and turtling when impact was coming.  And his plays on O were a joke, one or both stopped behind the LoS.

Greg McCrae did it better.

If for some odd reason we give him another flier (absent a Vaval injury) he'll have to produce FAST or he's gonzo as soon as we don't need him as a returner backup.

The question / point was whether he was physically / mentally ready to play after an extended time on the IR. What he showed might now be the best he has to offer.

I only said he had the potential to be better but that bus may have left the city and he's washed up.

He's an option that may have improved with more time being able to practice. Loss of income being moved to PR from IR/AR might motivate him. If it doesn't then he should be released.

[Waffler]

The question / point was whether he was physically / mentally ready to play after an extended time on the IR.

I haven't seen his top gear since early in camp. Not sure if he is playing timid or hurt.  Either way, Vaval is better.

[theaardvark]

Saw MOS's "When I picture him, I picture a leader who is out there driving the energy on the field." quote on X, and I sure hope he read the comments...

Ove 90% question the choice he made, easy in hindsight, but "fool me once" comes to mind.

We need to turn some more pages.  If Collaros can Ray/Fajardo/Mitchell the next few years of his career elsewhere, all the power to him, but we need stability.  And Streveler needs to change his mindset and have a great career like Simopoli rather than retire early like Tebow.

We need the next guy.

[Blue In BC]

I haven't seen his top gear since early in camp. Not sure if he is playing timid or hurt.  Either way, Vaval is better.

That doesn't answer the issue of whether he has a top gear or whether it's been lost due to injuries. I don't go to practice so I can't answer that but the team had an expectation he would be the starter in 2025 when he was signed.

Vaval showed some flashes but currently is just an average returner. Blocking may be an issue but he's not showing what he showed before. He has upside but his role is not written in stone.

Hence the question of whether he might get bumped this week.

[Blueforlife]

That doesn't answer the issue of whether he has a top gear or whether it's been lost due to injuries. I don't go to practice so I can't answer that but the team had an expectation he would be the starter in 2025 when he was signed.

Vaval showed some flashes but currently is just an average returner. Blocking may be an issue but he's not showing what he showed before. He has upside but his role is not written in stone.

Hence the question of whether he might get bumped this week.

Vaval can play D so he has the advantage, unless we want Logan to get reps on O.  D more important imo.  Vaval might come out when we get Parker back as we would have more bodies on D. 

[Blue In BC]

Vaval can play D so he has the advantage, unless we want Logan to get reps on O.  D more important imo.

He played defence but like a rookie and got beaten too many times. In the past Logan has played well when used on offence and has more experience as a CFL player. We have others that can play defence and he was bumped from that role as a starter. In 2026 he may be competing to start but he's only an emergency fill in right now.

In 38 games Logan has provided 3200 return yards on punt and K/O's. On offence he's provided 1200 yards rushing or receiving as a rotational player.

He just hasn't shown it this year. Lingering injury issue or confidence lost.

If he isn't better now or perceived to be better before the end of the season they may as well release him. Five regular season games left counting this week.

He's no longer injured but collecting a game salary on 1 game IR. Echols is somewhat similar as a rotational player on offence that is also a returner.

Keeping both seems moot. Pick one and move on. Neither is likely to be on the roster next year.