Winnipeg @ Ottawa.

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Blueforlife

Vaval was asked to do too much but did very well
He will do better in the slow cooker than fried
He will come around
Good backup on D
Looks to be at least an average returner who needs to improve ball security at times
Good points both of you

Blue In BC

Quote from: Blueforlife on September 16, 2025, 01:54:56 PMVaval was asked to do too much but did very well
He will do better in the slow cooker than fried
He will come around
Good backup on D
Looks to be at least an average returner who needs to improve ball security at times
Good points both of you

Yes he falls into the too much too soon issue. He has upside and should improve going into his 2nd season in 2026. He seems to be a very athletic individual and that's a good thing for a young player. He's versatile and we've asked a lot of him in his 1st season.

We know that Logan has struggled in his 1st season in Winnipeg. Why that has been the case I don't know. He was signed and we were excited with what we thought he'd bring.

There are not very many regular season games left. It's a now or never kind of situation for this season. IIRC he only signed a 1 year deal, which is why I say now or never for him. He has to show that value that was anticipated or we move on going into next season. Vaval then becomes the front runner next year.

One game at a time.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: Blue In BC on September 16, 2025, 03:09:54 PMYes he falls into the too much too soon issue. He has upside and should improve going into his 2nd season in 2026. He seems to be a very athletic individual and that's a good thing for a young player. He's versatile and we've asked a lot of him in his 1st season.

We know that Logan has struggled in his 1st season in Winnipeg. Why that has been the case I don't know. He was signed and we were excited with what we thought he'd bring.

There are not very many regular season games left. It's a now or never kind of situation for this season. IIRC he only signed a 1 year deal, which is why I say now or never for him. He has to show that value that was anticipated or we move on going into next season. Vaval then becomes the front runner next year.

True for Logan, if he doesn't make an impact in the last stretch of the season he's going to end up on the outside looking in beside Walter Fletcher, wondering what happened to his once promising football career. 

I don't think he's plateaued as he's still pretty young, but he may be struggling to recover from an injury that takes more time than was given to recover from (Schoen), he probably should have been place on the 6-game for a second spell. 

bunker

I think Vaval has done well for a first year player, and could be a good returner going forward.
I have not been impressed with Logan. If he comes back next year, I would only offer him an ELC with some incentives for performance. He's way overpayed currently for what he is providing.

The Zipp

according to twitter zach is dressed but grindback Strev  (milts definition not mine) is taking all the reps.

 

Blue In BC

Quote from: The Zipp on September 16, 2025, 05:30:49 PMaccording to twitter zach is dressed but grindback Strev  (milts definition not mine) is taking all the reps.

 

That's not a good sign.
One game at a time.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: The Zipp on September 16, 2025, 05:30:49 PMaccording to twitter zach is dressed but grindback Strev  (milts definition not mine) is taking all the reps.

 

Hearsay but heard on Wpg Sports Talk Zach told someone he will be playing this week.

Pete

#22
What does qb Wilson do at practice, just throwing to Cobb and Echols?
If Zac can't go the way Streveler plays we may need him even if its due to injury.

Blueforlife

#23
Quote from: Pete on September 16, 2025, 07:03:35 PMWhat does qb Wilson do at practice, just throwing to Cobb and Echols?
If Zac can't go the way Streveler plays we may need him even if its due to injury.
Yup he won't see the #1 guys.  He will develop a strong connection with our B players.

Griffen DNP hope his knee isn't hurt too bad
A key cog in our defensive rotation  and will be a stud one day imo

Blue In BC

Collaros, Sterns and Parker all listed as " limited ". So they might play but this is the 1st practice for Parker and Sterns for awhile so they may be a week away. Collaros seems to think he'll play this week.

Griffin listed as " DNP" so 50/50 that he's out this week. J. Jones would seem to be the next up, but that's just a guess. I think he was the only new injury last week.

Vanterpool could be an option if they choose.



One game at a time.

Jesse

#25
Quote from: Pete on September 16, 2025, 07:03:35 PMWhat does qb Wilson do at practice, just throwing to Cobb and Echols?
If Zac can't go the way Streveler plays we may need him even if its due to injury.

During drills, he gets as much work as anyone else. The receivers rotate so everyone throws to everyone.

During scrimmage, he gets 2-3 reps at the end, once or twice a practice. During these weeks where he's back-up, he's obviously getting all the second string reps.
My wife is amazing!

The Zipp

when asked about Strev - MOS is bringing up all that he did for us in 2019...playing hurt, the option of running - living in the past glory days instead of recognizing the current shortcomings.  i bet MOS loves mike tomlin - the coaches of my two football teams are failing to recognize the glaring weaknesses of their teams. 

barbk

Quote from: The Zipp on September 16, 2025, 11:14:12 PMwhen asked about Strev - MOS is bringing up all that he did for us in 2019...playing hurt, the option of running - living in the past glory days instead of recognizing the current shortcomings.  i bet MOS loves mike tomlin - the coaches of my two football teams are failing to recognize the glaring weaknesses of their teams. 

It sure is funny he doesn't bring up the past or tends not to remember certain games.  O'shea is hurting the team in winning staying with his vets.  Honestly he is going to start to lose the fans patience and tickets to the games (who wants to watch Strev struggle and watch the same old offensive schemes) Sure glad I didn't buy my Grey Cup tickets.... I had a feeling our team would suck this year.

Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: The Zipp on September 16, 2025, 11:14:12 PMwhen asked about Strev - MOS is bringing up all that he did for us in 2019...playing hurt, the option of running - living in the past glory days instead of recognizing the current shortcomings.  i bet MOS loves mike tomlin - the coaches of my two football teams are failing to recognize the glaring weaknesses of their teams. 

Heard that. Equally confused. I guess he's defending Streveler in the only possible way you can, by pointing to how good a fit he used to be as an athletic, change of pace quarterback who complemented a younger (but not very physical) Zach Collaros. That said, the answer isn't a very good one for why he should be starting now. There's a lot of people on that 2019 team who did great things. So what?

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: The Zipp on September 16, 2025, 11:14:12 PMwhen asked about Strev - MOS is bringing up all that he did for us in 2019...playing hurt, the option of running - living in the past glory days instead of recognizing the current shortcomings.  i bet MOS loves mike tomlin - the coaches of my two football teams are failing to recognize the glaring weaknesses of their teams. 

I know, hard to listen to, 2019 was 6 years ago, whatever was owed to Streveler has been paid, time to move onto the present day.  By my count the Bombers still have 12 players on their roster from the 2019 GC, the Argos have only 5 left from their 2022 GC win.