We need a QB for the be future and a good backup!

Started by Austin85, September 14, 2025, 12:54:54 AM

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Big Daddy

Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 15, 2025, 01:47:37 AMNo one wants Wilson.  Maybe as a #4, and/or a cheap way to steal our "book" (though that may have $0 value this season).  No one would AR Wilson even as the "injury backup only".

Well... MAYBE someone would take him as a SY specialist for $100k.  Maybe.  He's shown competent enough at it, though the reps have been very limited.


Honestly never thought of that, I know you mean so they could have an idea what we do on offense (everyone knows what we will do on offense, they don't need to pay for it), but I fantasized that someone might want to have access in order to copy it.  If that were the (incredibly unlikely) case, Wilson could be our trojan horse! 

I cannot imagine we go into next year with the same OC, or the same status quo on offense.  Seriously.  Even I would think twice about renewing.  Well, I'd probably renew again but be way more likely to miss games in person for whatever reason came up.

Horseman

time to move on from the following after this year:

Zach - replace with Fajardo (trade Willie for him).
Strev - clearly not a #2 QB (hopefully Elgersma shows up)
Neufeld - too many complete whiffs, needs to retire.
Bryant - see Neufeld above.
Jake Thomas - time to retire.
Stephan Logan - hasn't shown us anything.
Schoen - recurring injury to his knee has done him in.

Use FA to bring in players with the money saved from the above players salary and then draft and develop (OL, or the huge OL we drafted from UBC last year). We have to be ready for some lean years coming ahead as we have relied on to many old vets this year that have lost "it".

ichabod_crane

Quote from: dd on September 14, 2025, 03:22:33 PMAgreed!! Enough talk about bringing him here, that would be a colossal mistake

Nobody is trading for Ford unless his contract is renegotiated. To bet your team on him being your starter is also crazy at this stage.

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#33
Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 15, 2025, 02:17:13 AMHe has, and maybe that's why we still keep him.  Writing might be on the wall for Strev and WFC *requires* a good SY package to function properly.  So maybe Wilson as SY in '26 and Elgersma or The Greek as dev / #2 guy.  The nice thing about this is maybe Wilson would make a decent #2 also... but that remains to be seen.


Just imagine if they would have made this smart decision at the end of TC instead of continuing on with Streveler when they already saw his limitations during the 2024 season. Wilson would have a number of games under his belt already and they'd have a good indication if he had the potential to replace Zach or not.

Couldn't be worse than the current record of 6-7 and not knowing what they have in their QB room. With Zach's re-signing they're just kicking this problem further down the road, after the tide has clearly turned on his career.  Start of the season I was expecting a renewal of his enthusiasm, but he's slipped off the dock a number of times this season and is now wallowing in deep water like a man in a heavy overcoat hoping to be saved.

peg_city

A lot of people putting their hopes on Elgersma.

Chances are (based on the number of QBs who have played with the bombers over my lifetime), he won't even become Streveler.

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#35
Realistic starting QB options next season, considering their status on their current teams.

MBT- Temp solution, just as old as Zach but in better physical and mental condition, maybe get 2 years from him, some good some bad, but a successful offence could be built around him.

Taylor Powell- Only 26, he showed well in Hamilton when given the chance in 23 and 24, hasn't played at all since BLM re-ignited his career. Likely disgruntled, so Ti-Cats may not be able to contain him, similar to Dru Brown situation leaving Wpg.

Arbuckle- Offer him a decent starting QB contract and he'll likely sign anywhere, throws the ball better than Zach but requires excellent receivers and good protection.

Fajardo- He'd be dumb to leave Edmonton and Hervey would be dumb to let him go.

Dru Brown- If Ottawa blows up after this season and replaces the GM and HC, he may flee to safer waters.

Crum- Realistically no guarantee he'd win more than .500 even if anointed a starter,  Crum is the perfect backup QB.

Tre Ford- Similar situation to Crum, risky bet but would be nice to have as a backup with huge potential to become more.

Luckily not too many other teams will be in the market for a starting Qb next season, so shouldn't be much competition for any FA QB's.

TBURGESS

Realistically, only Tre Ford and Taylor Power will likely be available.
Winnipeg Blue Bombers - 2019 Grey Cup Champs.

Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: TBURGESS on September 15, 2025, 08:58:02 PMRealistically, only Tre Ford and Taylor Power will likely be available.

Why not MBT or Arbuckle?

Blue In BC

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on September 15, 2025, 09:35:38 PMWhy not MBT or Arbuckle?

The idea of MBT was covered by some of us posters already.

Arbuckle will test free agency and the Bombers technically will have Collaros under contract. They'd have to make a decision prior to free agency to go in another direction across all of their QB's.

It's a little early to know how this shakes out.
One game at a time.

dd

Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 15, 2025, 01:50:16 AMThe recency bias on here is incredible sometimes.  How quickly people forget that MBT basically stunk in every other game he started for MTL this season.  Probably threw more INTs per game than Strev.  He was so bad they decided to roll with Caleb (with a fake injury for MBT).

MBT is the most hot & cold QB ever.  Why anyone would want him here as our #1 is beyond me.  Plus, he's getting old now too.

You saw him light up saskatchewan right?? we've never done that this year

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Quote from: Blue In BC on September 15, 2025, 09:57:18 PMThe idea of MBT was covered by some of us posters already.

Arbuckle will test free agency and the Bombers technically will have Collaros under contract. They'd have to make a decision prior to free agency to go in another direction across all of their QB's.

It's a little early to know how this shakes out.

I was laying out possible QB options available to the Bombers for next season without disqualifying any of the candidates outright. MBT would likely be an option available for $250-350k if the Bombers were interested, I don't think the Als would care either way if he left.

BBFANDM

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on September 14, 2025, 03:18:34 PMFord might be the only QB in the country worse at reading a defense and running through progressions than Streveler lol.
However he is a much better runner and he is much younger I would take a chance on him but wouldn't give up a 1st rounder

bluengold204

Quote from: BBFANDM on September 15, 2025, 10:29:16 PMHowever he is a much better runner and he is much younger I would take a chance on him but wouldn't give up a 1st rounder

Ford is awful I am not sure why any of you think he will be a big improvement.  There is a reason he has lost his job to other QBs year after year.

TecnoGenius

Quote from: dd on September 15, 2025, 10:16:19 PMYou saw him light up saskatchewan right?? we've never done that this year

That was his "hot" day.  He has those.  (Also, trap game, SSK not prepared, no answer -- how many times did we do that when we were the top team?? answer: every year.)  Oh ya, and SSK at the best of times has a bad DB corps, and with 2 injuries they are plain horrible.  Strev could beat them now.

Credit to Maas also: unlike Hogan, he laid into SSK's weaknesses: the mid/deep ball.  Oh ya, and NO ONE saw that new MTL RB lighting things up.  MTL's run game has been hot garbage all season.  Theis is a joke, and probably just lose his starting job.
Never go full Rider!

TecnoGenius

When is Alexander's contract up?  I think FA27?  This is all very easy: right before the GC it "leaks out" that WFC is willing to pay Alexander $100k above any other bidder PLUS $200k in MMM funny money.

Boom.  Problem solved.  Lock him for 3, then re-up for another 3.  Keep him the highest paid QB.  We've spent much (but not all) of the dynasty years paying Zach the highest QB salary in the league, especially when you back out other teams MMM cheating.  Mafia is more than prepared to pay more than everyone else for QB talent.  And Alexander is a future superstar and perennial GC winner.
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