We need a QB for the be future and a good backup!

[Blueforlife]

I am not interested in Cody but can see why some area
Full stop no to MBT imo
But yes need our plan B and C
I would like to see list of potential QBs that we could all debate and grade

[BBRT]

Ford might be the only QB in the country worse at reading a defense and running through progressions than Streveler lol.

I have to disagree - Stev is by far the worse at reading a defense. I tend to think maybe he is in a class all by himself in terms of what he brings to the table if anything.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Fajardo please.. make the trade Kyle!  Remember the Zach trade? Do it.

Opportunity missed, Bombers could have picked Fajardo up for a pittance last off-season and if they had:

-They'd be challenging for first in the West on this day.

-Significantly increase their chance of making the GC in Wpg.

-Receive an extension of 2-3 years of competent QBing before moving on to the next up.


Hervey isn't an idiot, he won't trade Fajardo as long as his job is on the line, they like his competitive nature and I think they'll probably extend him at starting QB wages for the next 2 seasons and focus on getting the rest of the team up to the level of playoff contention again. His Tre Ford problem will be moved to the back-burner and possibly traded away for assets or to free up cash, easy-peasy.

[theaardvark]

WFC can't dev a QB.  It's not happening.  And the once every 20 years you do (Dru Brown) the timing is all messed up so you have to let him walk.  Murphy's law.  And Dru hasn't shown he'd be a GC-caliber QB anyhow (yet?).

Nope, you do what we've always done and bring in a top FA for top QB $.  That's why I don't worry too much.  Find a way to steal Alexander away, though yes you'll probably have to wait for a contract year.  CGY finally stole VAJ away, from a West rival even: it is doable.

Or try to guess the "next big thing", which may be Powell (my guess), or maybe Crum (a long shot).  That's what we did with Nichols.

You do know Brown was a WFC find, right?

There are many "prospects" and recycled WB's out there to choose from, and who knows which system they will thrive in.  BLM was done, but is having a career year.  Arbuckle was out of the league, and won a GC and has made Chad a second thought (until this week)

Is Elgersma the answer?  IF he flames out down south, I have no problem letting him run our O, what's the worst that can happen.  Could he airdrop in and help us make a run?  See: Nathan Rourke 

We have Wilson and Chase in town, both need to get some reps to see what we have.  We know what Streveler is, and we Know what Zach's durability is.

While I love MOS's "player's coach" loyalty, its is a modality that works when things are good.  Right now, we need some "tough love" in the coaching ranks, especially at the QB spot.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

You do know Brown was a WFC find, right?

There are many "prospects" and recycled WB's out there to choose from, and who knows which system they will thrive in.  BLM was done, but is having a career year.  Arbuckle was out of the league, and won a GC and has made Chad a second thought (until this week)

Is Elgersma the answer?  IF he flames out down south, I have no problem letting him run our O, what's the worst that can happen.  Could he airdrop in and help us make a run?  See: Nathan Rourke 

We have Wilson and Chase in town, both need to get some reps to see what we have.  We know what Streveler is, and we Know what Zach's durability is.

While I love MOS's "player's coach" loyalty, its is a modality that works when things are good.  Right now, we need some "tough love" in the coaching ranks, especially at the QB spot.

Problem with MOS is his QB support has always been linear and he treats them as his #1 son, he moved from Willy, to Nichols, to Zach  with little over-lap, he got rid of one before handing the ball to the next. Even with Brown, there was never a question of him usurping Zach, he only received significant playing time if Zach was out of commission. Brown must have realized the situation and knew he would not be given a chance to start until Zach was officially done, so he moved on instead of waiting for his turn.

This attitude has to change if the team wants to get better value out of their QB resources, Wilson and Artie are are still wrapped in plastic but may be headed to the trash bin by the end of this season with out ever unwrapping their potential.

[theaardvark]

Problem with MOS is his QB support has always been linear and he treats them as his #1 son, he moved from Willy, to Nichols, to Zach  with little over-lap, he got rid of one before handing the ball to the next. Even with Brown, there was never a question of him usurping Zach, he only received significant playing time if Zach was out of commission. Brown must have realized the situation and knew he would not be given a chance to start until Zach was officially done, so he moved on instead of waiting for his turn.

This attitude has to change if the team wants to get better value out of their QB resources, Wilson and Artie are are still wrapped in plastic but may be headed to the trash bin by the end of this season with out ever unwrapping their potential.

If Zach is back next year, if he finishes this year healthy, or able to recover by camp next year, Wilson will probably court offers.  Will he get any if he has zero reps?  Probably not, Dru had at least a smattering of reps that showed he had promise to be a starter.

Chase is here next year for sure, that's just a fact of rookies on ELC's. 

Streveler is that hard decision, that Wheeler decision as to whether to keep a leader, or realize he's not getting the job on the field done.  I think that Walters (if still here) will make the Jeffcoat/Harris decision.  Will Streveler get another gig as a QB?  He might Prokup a deal.  If he makes the Sinopoli's to RB or Rec, I can see him sticking with the WFC or getting a deal with another team.

Might even be a good idea for him to do that now...

[Pete]

I still would like to Elgersma here, he's built for the cfl game, great arm and accuracy, good enough skills to get a long look in nfl training camp.
Certainly shows more potential that what we have. May take a season to develop but if we have a plan to develop could be a keeper. The sooner we bring in the sooner we can evaluate
(by develop it doesnt just mean hold a clipboard, while the "vets" get all the looks regardless of production.)

Fajardo MBT and all the recycled options are only gonna make us a middle of the pack offense. And noone in season is going to trade us a qb before the trade deadline as all teams still have a shot

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

If Zach is back next year, if he finishes this year healthy, or able to recover by camp next year, Wilson will probably court offers.  Will he get any if he has zero reps?  Probably not, Dru had at least a smattering of reps that showed he had promise to be a starter.

Chase is here next year for sure, that's just a fact of rookies on ELC's. 

Streveler is that hard decision, that Wheeler decision as to whether to keep a leader, or realize he's not getting the job on the field done.  I think that Walters (if still here) will make the Jeffcoat/Harris decision.  Will Streveler get another gig as a QB?  He might Prokup a deal.  If he makes the Sinopoli's to RB or Rec, I can see him sticking with the WFC or getting a deal with another team.

Might even be a good idea for him to do that now...

Rather Strev not come back at all, MOS has too much allegiance to him and he's occupying a role needed to evaluate and develop better prospects.  With a SY QB like Prukop expectations were low, he did his job well  and he didn't gum up the works trying to become anything more than he was.

As for Artie, if he's still on the PR at the end of the season which is most likely, he's gone.

[theaardvark]

Rather Strev not come back at all, MOS has too much allegiance to him and he's occupying a role needed to evaluate and develop better prospects.  With a SY QB like Prukop expectations were low, he did his job well  and he didn't gum up the works trying to become anything more than he was.

As for Artie, if he's still on the PR at the end of the season which is most likely, he's gone.

If we are moving on from Strevy, Artie gets a contract for next year.  He's not been kept here to not continue, he has shown enough.

MTL has 4 QBs on their AR, plus Alexander and Evans on the IR.  Someone will shake loose, and if there is no confidence in Wilson and Chase, either Paterson or Dukes will be available sooner than later.

[dd]

I think ZC8 comes back next year, so we need to sign a very competent backup, and one of Fajardo, MBT and Arbuckle would likely want to be a starter after he retires,so I am thinking sign one of them, don't care who, as all have good games and bad games, but we have to get a guy who can read defenses and accurately pass, all 3 can do that. Sign one. I like CF, as he's obviously won a GC, MBT can be super hot, then clueless next week, and Arbuckle is having himself a very respectable year.

[TecnoGenius]

I think ZC8 comes back next year, so we need to sign a very competent backup

Impossible with Zach earning a top-3 QB salary.  We simply can't (and never do) devote that much $ to the QB room.  We are always huge #1, chintzy SY, near-ELC dev guy.  Plus ELC PR guys.

The only way we could spend $200-$300 on a "legit backup" would be if Zach took a huge cut.  And a) he won't, and b) we won't ask him to.

[TecnoGenius]

Wilson will probably court offers

No one wants Wilson.  Maybe as a #4, and/or a cheap way to steal our "book" (though that may have $0 value this season).  No one would AR Wilson even as the "injury backup only".

Well... MAYBE someone would take him as a SY specialist for $100k.  Maybe.  He's shown competent enough at it, though the reps have been very limited.

[TecnoGenius]

I don't think I'd want MBT in Winnipeg. At best he'd be a short term answer and he can be both hot and cold.

The recency bias on here is incredible sometimes.  How quickly people forget that MBT basically stunk in every other game he started for MTL this season.  Probably threw more INTs per game than Strev.  He was so bad they decided to roll with Caleb (with a fake injury for MBT).

MBT is the most hot & cold QB ever.  Why anyone would want him here as our #1 is beyond me.  Plus, he's getting old now too.

[bunker]

No one wants Wilson.  Maybe as a #4, and/or a cheap way to steal our "book" (though that may have $0 value this season).  No one would AR Wilson even as the "injury backup only".

Well... MAYBE someone would take him as a SY specialist for $100k.  Maybe.  He's shown competent enough at it, though the reps have been very limited.

I think he's been very good at short yardage. Almost always makes the yard, and a few times has broken through for more. He has the foot speed to get around the edge, Strev no longer does.

[TecnoGenius]

I think he's been very good at short yardage. Almost always makes the yard, and a few times has broken through for more. He has the foot speed to get around the edge, Strev no longer does.

He has, and maybe that's why we still keep him.  Writing might be on the wall for Strev and WFC *requires* a good SY package to function properly.  So maybe Wilson as SY in '26 and Elgersma or The Greek as dev / #2 guy.  The nice thing about this is maybe Wilson would make a decent #2 also... but that remains to be seen.