GDT Mtl at BC, Sat Aug 16, 6:00PM

[TecnoGenius]

3Q13:57 The DPI challenge by Maas: this proves '25 command is working to a different standard compared to '24 command.  In '24 this would not be overturned because in real time it's too close to call.  Only in slow-mo can you tell something is majorly wrong.  (And it wouldn't have been overturned if called and challenged, too.)

Last year they said "no freeze frame, frame by frame" checking.  This year they clearly are allowing slow-mo / freeze frame to decide "subjective" things like DPI.  And they aren't shy about overturning.  It's actually overturn city this season.

It makes me think even more that we should have challenged some of those awful calls that went against us vs OTT.  You'll win a lot more of them now.

[TecnoGenius]

This game has no end of bad reffing...

3Q12:58 The MTL TE gets up out of 2 pt stance and walks away from the line to draw BC offside.  Great, he's allowed to do that.

BUT before the BC guy actually goes into the neutral zone, the TE's LT buddy snaps his head to the left.  It's easy to confirm on the live shot in slow mo.  And no, it doesn't matter that Betts is moving early, he can move all he wants: it's whether he's in the neutral zone that matters.

I thought command was supposed to step in for confusing IP/OS calls?  Did they get it wrong too?  Shambles.

P.S. What a cheap TE-gets-up trick.  Maas reduced to that to have a shot at a W.  SSK used to do this too.

[TecnoGenius]

Awe standing over a guy menacing... should have been a penalty.

Awe doing Awe things.  Dude should be renamed to a Shakespearian-sound King Spear.  I was surprised they picked up that flag earlier in the game.  Was a total spear.  And then command calls this 2nd one spearing when it was half the spear the first one was?!  The inconsistency is laughable.

[TecnoGenius]

OMG 3Q6:19 MTL jumps offside on hard count by Rourke, which causes the LG to start moving early once he's in the neutral zone.  Half a yard in with OL getting up everywhere the C finally snaps it.  Huge deep completion to Hatcher.

Easily visible something was amiss in real time.  No replay needed except to sort out exactly what happened first (but I called it right as OS MTL).

REFS MISSED EVERYTHING and acted like nothing was wrong.  This wasn't a close call, this was an early jump and if you missed that then an IP.

(You can even see it on the replay even though TSN tries to hide it by starting the replay at a late juncture.  Frame step pre-snap and the MTL dude is clearly OS and the ball is still on the turf.)

I'm losing faith in the officiating.  It's reached a new low.

[TecnoGenius]

Wow, Snead channeled his inner Duron Carter facemasking the DB and pulling him aggressively into the turf at the sideline.  I haven't seen such reckless garbage since DC was kicked out of the league.

Snead: fine incoming.

P.S. My opinion of him just dropped down 10 notches.  He's close to DC poop-list levels now.

[TecnoGenius]

4Q14:44 Refs don't even blow the play dead.  Just crickets.  The 2 players are sitting there on the turf looking around "is the play over yet?".  And just decide "yup" and get up.

What is going on?

[TecnoGenius]

.... Not an encouraging outlook for the Bombers for the balance of the season.

I don't know.  The only depressing thing from this weekend is seeing that DL of SSK...

I'm very happy MTL is hot garbage.  They may be the worst team in the league right now because of injuries to basically everyone who has talent, on both sides.  If we play like we did vs OTT we will beat MTL in 1 week.

HAM also looks beatable.  3 teams have shown us how you can negate Kenny.  2 teams have managed to do it without sacrificing freebies to the other RECs.  And if anyone knows Kenny's weaknesses, it's us.

BC we don't play anymore, so who cares if they are good now.

And SSK gets to lose to a bye-week-rested CGY next week.

If anything, things are looking up until LDC!  If we can win the Banjo Bowl, and get Pokey, Lofton, Parker & Schoen back before the 3rd SSK game, we could be a powerhouse wreaking all sorts of havoc.

[markf]

I don't know.  The only depressing thing from this weekend is seeing that DL of SSK...

Assuming no injuries, BC, Stamps, Riders all have better quarterbacking than us. Maybe even Elks have better than us.

Even if we have fixed our D problems, that is a tough obstacle.

[dd]

This game has no end of bad reffing...

3Q12:58 The MTL TE gets up out of 2 pt stance and walks away from the line to draw BC offside.  Great, he's allowed to do that.

BUT before the BC guy actually goes into the neutral zone, the TE's LT buddy snaps his head to the left.  It's easy to confirm on the live shot in slow mo.  And no, it doesn't matter that Betts is moving early, he can move all he wants: it's whether he's in the neutral zone that matters.

I thought command was supposed to step in for confusing IP/OS calls?  Did they get it wrong too?  Shambles.

P.S. What a cheap TE-gets-up trick.  Maas reduced to that to have a shot at a W.  SSK used to do this too.

Ya, they need to change this rule to if you're in the close line play area, whether you're in 2, 3 or 4 point stance, once you're set, you're set, no moving, as doing so is an attempt to draw the D offside. If you line up, you line up, but don't move after you line up.

[theaardvark]

Henoc on the panel about Awe was so stupid.  "He doesn't try to hurt you, but he will bring pain".  No, Awe hits in a way that does inflict maximum pain, sure, but he does it in a way that does not prevent him from injuring players.

There are ways to hit to inflict pain and do not increase the chance of injury.  But Awe leads with his head too often and hits high.

Shoulder to the solar plexus is the optimal "bring pain" hit.  Its tough, its legal, and it can put a player out for three plays just by knocking the wind out of him.

Helmet to helmet, helmet first, shooting for the shins/ankles, hitting high or low is just intent to injure, and has no place.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Wow, Snead channeled his inner Duron Carter facemasking the DB and pulling him aggressively into the turf at the sideline.  I haven't seen such reckless garbage since DC was kicked out of the league.

Snead: fine incoming.

P.S. My opinion of him just dropped down 10 notches.  He's close to DC poop-list levels now.

I love Snead, would put him in my top 5 CFL receivers. Can't feel sorry for any player on defence especially the secondary and LB's, they gang up on receivers all the time trying to intimidate them with borderline dirty hits. Just watch how much extra abuse a receiver like Schoen takes in a game, it wouldn't happen in hockey, an enforcer would come off the bench to punch their lights out for taking liberties with a highly skilled player.

[TecnoGenius]

Ya, they need to change this rule to if you're in the close line play area, whether you're in 2, 3 or 4 point stance, once you're set, you're set, no moving, as doing so is an attempt to draw the D offside. If you line up, you line up, but don't move after you line up.

I agree.  It's a cheap shot by a usually desperate O.  I think we even did it once a couple of years back (was it Mike Miller?) and they flagged us and I think the penalty stood, even though we were allowed to do it.  Each season a few teams will try it.

[TecnoGenius]

I love Snead, would put him in my top 5 CFL receivers. Can't feel sorry for any player on defence especially the secondary and LB's, they gang up on receivers all the time trying to intimidate them with borderline dirty hits.

Ya, but I've only seen a REC slamming a DB to the turf by the facemask twice in my 10 years of football.  Duron Carter and Snead.  That's not the type of company you want to be in.

Snead may get max fine for that stunt.  That's not a good look on an up & coming player, eh?

[bomb squad]

This game has no end of bad reffing...

3Q12:58 The MTL TE gets up out of 2 pt stance and walks away from the line to draw BC offside.  Great, he's allowed to do that.

BUT before the BC guy actually goes into the neutral zone, the TE's LT buddy snaps his head to the left.  It's easy to confirm on the live shot in slow mo.  And no, it doesn't matter that Betts is moving early, he can move all he wants: it's whether he's in the neutral zone that matters.

I thought command was supposed to step in for confusing IP/OS calls?  Did they get it wrong too?  Shambles.

P.S. What a cheap TE-gets-up trick.  Maas reduced to that to have a shot at a W.  SSK used to do this too.

Neither of them got it wrong. The head snap and the motion into the neutral zone occurred at virtually the same time. Milliseconds difference, if any. There was nothing the RC could add to the discussion, so they went with the call on the field.   

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Ya, but I've only seen a REC slamming a DB to the turf by the facemask twice in my 10 years of football.  Duron Carter and Snead.  That's not the type of company you want to be in.

Snead may get max fine for that stunt.  That's not a good look on an up & coming player, eh?

Andrew Harris liked to grab the facemask as well and give it a twist as part of his stiff arm, it was the only time he could get some payback.