Official Game Day Thread - Hamilton at Winnipeg August 23, 2024

ModAdmin · August 24, 2024, 05:47:06 PM

Game Recap | HAM 23 WPG 26

"...We showed some resilience and there was lots of opportunity to be resilient tonight, a lot of things going on," added head coach Mike O'Shea. "Everybody wants resilience to be instant in the first opportunity you get to stand and deliver and would like it to be instantaneous. But as long as it shows up before the end of the game, so be it. We learned."

The Blue Bombers have now won three straight and after an 0-4 start, are 5-2 since to climb back into contention....

https://www.bluebombers.com/2024/08/24/game-recap-ham-23-wpg-26/

dd · August 24, 2024, 06:16:38 PM

Quote from: BBRT on August 24, 2024, 05:15:37 PMSilly Boy! According to all the Rider Fans the refs are always on the Bombers side and all hate the Riders!!!

No that's just people in general!!

J5V · August 24, 2024, 09:45:21 PM

Quote from: The Zipp on August 24, 2024, 04:04:02 PMAnd yet if you pursue the cesspool riderfans forum they are convinced that the Bombers get all the advantageous calls

Truth is prob in the middle that the refs have no bias and call the game as they see it without concern over who the team is.

Okay, maybe, but the missed straight arm decapitation attempt on Wilson that went uncalled was "as they see it", meaning, it's not a penalty? I don't know about that.

dd · August 24, 2024, 10:00:27 PM

Quote from: J5V on August 24, 2024, 09:45:21 PMOkay, maybe, but the missed straight arm decapitation attempt on Wilson that went uncalled was "as they see it", meaning, it's not a penalty? I don't know about that.

That was 100% a clothesline and its a foul, the guy got jerked right out of his cleats and no call, par for the course

J5V · August 24, 2024, 10:09:48 PM

Quote from: dd on August 24, 2024, 10:00:27 PMThat was 100% a clothesline and its a foul, the guy got jerked right out of his cleats and no call, par for the course

Okay, I agree. Can CC not notify the officials (7 of them) that they missed the call? If so, that's 2 levels that either missed it, saw it as a non-infraction, or chose to ignore it. Is there a possibility that I'm missing here?

LXTSN · August 24, 2024, 10:22:11 PM

Quote from: dd on August 24, 2024, 04:54:13 PMRule 7, article 4i- it is illegal to tackle around the head or straight arm tackle above the shoulders.

The rule is there, it's a player safety issue, call the dam thing!!

thanks for clarifying!

J5V · August 24, 2024, 11:58:42 PM

What I'd seriously like to see is the video evidence from each team that has a beef with the officials and/or the Command Centre. I don't know who'd have the biggest library of videos but we'd have to be near the top. We've suffered everything from multiple phantom calls to numerous egregious missed calls that beg for attention for the sake of player safety. Do we have to lose a player before the league investigates what is going on with its officials and the command centre? Let's hope not. I'm certainly relieved to know Mr. Wilson didn't suffer any long term effects from a very nasty illegal blow to the head.

The Zipp · August 25, 2024, 12:08:00 AM

It will be interesting if there is a fine for that tackle / clothesline

GOLDMEMBER · August 25, 2024, 12:43:22 AM

TOUCHDOWN Redblacks

dd · August 25, 2024, 01:31:41 AM

Quote from: The Zipp on August 25, 2024, 12:08:00 AMIt will be interesting if there is a fine for that tackle / clothesline

There most certainly should be. You can't let that type of foul go, Wilson could have been seriously injured on that play and that foul is completely on the defender, he had to purposely stick his arm out and try to decaptitate Wilson.

J5V · August 25, 2024, 01:48:17 AM

Quote from: dd on August 25, 2024, 01:31:41 AMThere most certainly should be. You can't let that type of foul go, Wilson could have been seriously injured on that play and that foul is completely on the defender, he had to purposely stick his arm out and try to decaptitate Wilson.

Yet there is no call on the field and no correction from the CC. How can that possibly be true if everything is on the up and up? I haven't yet heard a good explanation for it. League wide incompetence?

dd · August 25, 2024, 01:56:36 AM

Quote from: J5V on August 25, 2024, 01:48:17 AMYet there is no call on the field and no correction from the CC. How can that possibly be true if everything is on the up and up? I haven't yet heard a good explanation for it. League wide incompetence?

I am not sure what the league protocol is, but on major fouls, command centre should interject and call the foul if it was missed by the on field officials.

For something as obvious as this, I don't know what the on field officials excuse is going to be as at least 2 officials would have had their eyes on the play/receiver.

Just another display of the incompetence that's parading around in striped uniforms.

J5V · August 25, 2024, 02:21:31 AM

Quote from: dd on August 25, 2024, 01:56:36 AMI am not sure what the league protocol is, but on major fouls, command centre should interject and call the foul if it was missed by the on field officials.

For something as obvious as this, I don't know what the on field officials excuse is going to be as at least 2 officials would have had their eyes on the play/receiver.

Just another display of the incompetence that's parading around in striped uniforms.

What does it mean that the command centre did not make the correction? Are they trying to support the incompetence of the officials by doing nothing? If so, is that the purpose of the command centre? Or is something else going on here? Either way, I think we need an explanation.

Blue In BC · August 25, 2024, 02:26:19 AM

I haven't re-watched the game. Initially I thought it was a close line but it might have been a lower hit that took him down.

Need the slideshow to review. It will be clear one way or the other and wouldn't result in a bad decision by the CC.

TecnoGenius · August 25, 2024, 07:08:55 AM

Quote from: Waffler on August 24, 2024, 03:25:10 PMThe key word there is FORCE. If he's not open, he's not open. And the final play was the only one where he was open.

If he's in man coverage and he thinks the FS can't get there in time, then it's NOT "forcing" it. It's a 50/50 ball you think your 275000 guy can win more than 50% of the time. That's the theory. In '19 he would have been right.

The problem is it does look like "forcing it" because for whatever reason there's usually 2 defenders in the picture on every Kenny 50/50 ball. That definitely ruins the "50/50" aspect.

I don't know what the solution is to make sure it's just 1-on-1, and to increase the 50/50 odds back to what we're used to with Kenny... but surely there's some solution! If we don't crack that code, no way we can justify Kenn's salary next season.