Likely regular season outcome? (and tiebreaking rules!)

[Mick]

Ya, as a programmer I find it funny, but kind of understandable, that the league probably didn't pay someone to program all those crazy multi-level tie rules into the standings web page.

I bet none of it is automated and it's just some dude who logs in after the games and updates the chart manually.      And the dude is probably as confused as to how the tiebreaking works as many of us are/were.

https://stats.cfl.ca/standings is now correct.

[gobombersgo]

Derek Taylor🏈   @DTonOB

Seeing some Qs about a 3-way WPG/SSK/CGY tiebreaker. As I read it:

WPG: 3-2 (.600 win%)
SSK: 2-2 (.500)
CGY: 2-3 (.400)

And last season the CFL confirmed they break *all the ties* with the step. Not break the first tie then go back to the beginning.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Ya, as a programmer I find it funny, but kind of understandable, that the league probably didn't pay someone to program all those crazy multi-level tie rules into the standings web page.

I bet none of it is automated and it's just some dude who logs in after the games and updates the chart manually.      And the dude is probably as confused as to how the tiebreaking works as many of us are/were.

Imagine all this technological advancement and the Bomber roster is  worse at tracking the the latest roster changes than it was when done by human hand, it's always too late, inaccurate and useless.

The problem is it's no longer someone's job to keep the information up to date.  All it takes is a line of code from Genius to automatically update the roster, but it constantly fails to  deliver, so apathy and misinformation becomes the accepted norm in place of dependability and we are presented with obsolete information which is virtually worthless.

I'm not into conspiracies but is this interference directed from the gambling industry to make statistical information more unreliable so more bets are placed based on emotion than knowledge and data? Is Genius tied in with online gambling in anyway?

[Tecno]

Imagine all this technological advancement and the Bomber roster is  worse at tracking the the latest roster changes than it was when done by human hand, it's always too late, inaccurate and useless.

Ya, like the depth charts.  Check out:
https://ticats.ca/depth-charts

Hasn't been updated since game 9.  Ya, real useful there, HAM.  WPG has been late with a couple of games this year (they are historically pretty bad at it) but overall better than last year.  I need to get the full chart & roster pdf for each game the day before in order to do my fantasy/pickems/(gambling? lol) and the one-page jpg they put on socials isn't good enough (nor am I on socials).  The only way I can get a modicum of a HAM chart in time is via this forum's GDTs!

What should happen is when each team electronically submits the chart pdf to the league as legally required they are instantly posted automatically to a cfl or the teams' sites -- they all seem to be using the same software anyhow.  Instead it relies on some dude to do it at each team -- and some teams clearly don't care.

As for gambling/Genius, yes I think Genius feeds all the gambling that is happening.  Surely Genius is feeding the stats being gambled on to the various bookies.  I doubt each bookie is watching all the games and recording Pokey's yards to see if he can break 85!  Surely that's what allowed the explosion of yard-based and td-based bets, as well as weird prop bets.

[Tecno]

Seeing some Qs about a 3-way WPG/SSK/CGY tiebreaker. As I read it:

WPG: 3-2 (.600 win%)
SSK: 2-2 (.500)
CGY: 2-3 (.400)

I think DT is wrong.  I still see the wording as meaning WPG 3-7, SSK 2-7, CGY 2-7 as per my original post: "all games played against all other tied clubs" -- that's 7, so that's your denominator.  And note how it DOES change the math in that SSK & CGY are still tied at that step, thus requiring the "reset" back to the top of the rules which then can use "season series" to break that CGY/SSK tie.

And last season the CFL confirmed they break *all the ties* with the step. Not break the first tie then go back to the beginning.

Now THAT's interesting knowledge.  However, I would reword it to say "break all the ties THEY CAN with the step" then go back.  In this case, if my interpretation is correct, they can't break the SSK/CGY tie with this step, so they would revert (vs going farther down the rules!).

Yes, it's pedantic because in the end the order remains the same, but that doesn't necessarily have to be so.

[bomb squad]

I think DT is wrong.  I still see the wording as meaning WPG 3-7, SSK 2-7, CGY 2-7 as per my original post: "all games played against all other tied clubs" -- that's 7, so that's your denominator.  And note how it DOES change the math in that SSK & CGY are still tied at that step, thus requiring the "reset" back to the top of the rules which then can use "season series" to break that CGY/SSK tie.

Now THAT's interesting knowledge.  However, I would reword it to say "break all the ties THEY CAN with the step" then go back.  In this case, if my interpretation is correct, they can't break the SSK/CGY tie with this step, so they would revert (vs going farther down the rules!).

Yes, it's pedantic because in the end the order remains the same, but that doesn't necessarily have to be so.

The keyword is "against". Wpg has played 5 games against Ssk and Cgy. Not 7. Cgy has played 5 games against Ssk and Wpg. Not 7. Ssk has played 4 games against Wpg and Cgy. Not 7.