Bluebomber OC position discussion

[peg_city]

It makes perfect sense when you realize it's this Mike Miller and not this Mike Miller. Two different individuals.

Ohhh, I thought it was Mike Miller the basketball player

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Miller_(basketball,_born_1980)

[blue_gold_84]

Ohhh, I thought it was Mike Miller the basketball player

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Miller_(basketball,_born_1980)

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Absolutely do not trust opinions or predictions. They come from a very biased place that inherently does not believe in the CFL.

But they do have league contacts. So when they report that something has already happened, like a team giving permission to speak to a coach, it's pretty trustworthy.

On Condell and Miller:

If we've talked to both, the smart money might be on Condell. Part of the problem this year was going with inexperience. You combine the fact the Condell's done it before along with the fact that he is Zach's favourite person in the CFL, and there might be too strong a connection to ignore.

Different motivations, Condell likely out of a job in Ottawa with Dinwiddie's arrival, while Mike Miller is interviewing for the HC job in T.O.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Worth noting both Condell and Collaros were with the Ti-Cats in 2014 and 2015. That familiarity could be helpful.

To note, when Condell and Zach worked together 2014-15 the Ti-Cats went 9-9 and 10-8 under HC Kent Austin.

[blue_gold_84]

To note, when Condell and Zach worked together 2014-15 the Ti-Cats went 9-9 and 10-8 under HC Kent Austin.

They also went to the Grey Cup in 2014 and played a hard-fought East Final a year later, albeit in a losing effort. Collaros also didn't play in that game due to a season-ending injury in September of that season.

FWIW, Collaros' stats were solid during those two seasons (101.9 QBR in 25 regular season games). I'm curious if a reunion between him and Condell would be positive, particularly for Collaros.

[blue_or_die]

And when '19 and '21 cups had Mike Jones covering Mike Jones?

The moral of the story: DON'T NAME YOUR KIDS MIKE!  Voila, problem solved.

Terrible, horrible take. The worst yet.

[blue_or_die]

No mention of Jarious Jackson as an option?

Most of us wondered why that simply wasn't the case this year. Hindsight is meaningless here but it's not hard to imagine that maybe our offense would have been better under the watch of an extremely experienced CFL coach and former player. I most certainly wouldn't be opposed if he were in the running.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

No mention of Jarious Jackson as an option?

Most of us wondered why that simply wasn't the case this year. Hindsight is meaningless here but it's not hard to imagine that maybe our offense would have been better under the watch of an extremely experienced CFL coach and former player. I most certainly wouldn't be opposed if he were in the running.

The fact Jackson was in the same room and couldn't alter the course looks bad on him.  Always got the impression he was a passive observer to Jones downfall in Edmonton and couldn't come up with anything to salvage that disaster.

[blue_gold_84]

The fact Jackson was in the same room and couldn't alter the course looks bad on him.

Jackson was the QB coach, so this is a bad take.  Hogan was given the reins of the offense, and he failed as OC. That's not on Jackson.

If anything, it's on those who gave Hogan the OC title in the first place.

[VictorRomano]

Whatever it takes, I don't want to see Hogan back as OC; maybe as a positional coach, but definitely not in the big chair.  He's a jabroni, and the Iron Sheik would break his back and make him humble.

[Pete]

Jackson was the QB coach, so this is a bad take.  Hogan was given the reins of the offense, and he failed as OC. That's not on Jackson.

If anything, it's on those who gave Hogan the OC title in the first place.

and he didn't succeed in that role...Zacs performance certainly didn.t improve, so why would we promote him? You could also argue that he was brought in to assist Hogan but that speaks for itself as well. Maybe they should give Khari a call?

[Jesse]

No mention of Jarious Jackson as an option?

Most of us wondered why that simply wasn't the case this year. Hindsight is meaningless here but it's not hard to imagine that maybe our offense would have been better under the watch of an extremely experienced CFL coach and former player. I most certainly wouldn't be opposed if he were in the running.

Before all these interview requests, he was still my top option!

This is 100% unverified, but John Hodge was saying that Zach loves Jackson. Seems to be a good mix of skills of both Condell and Miller. Experienced OC + QB coach.

[peg_city]

Terrible, horrible take. The worst yet.

A few other Mike's we should be looking at.

Mike Reilly
Mike Kelly
Mike Gibson
Mike Sherman (remember him coaching the Als)

Mic drop

[Tecno]

Terrible, horrible take. The worst yet.

Holy jeez!  It's a joke!

Although... if you don't want your kid to get confused with every other kid, avoid the most comment names, this is simple logic.

Maybe we can get an entire Prez/GM/coach/coords room of guys all with either the first name Mike or last name Miller!  With triple points for anyone with both names.  We're halfway there??

[Tecno]

This is 100% unverified, but John Hodge was saying that Zach loves Jackson. Seems to be a good mix of skills of both Condell and Miller. Experienced OC + QB coach.

Jeez, Zach seems to love everyone, according to this thread!  Is he living on a 1969 commune or something?