Bluebomber OC position discussion

[Tecno]

Jackson was the QB coach, so this is a bad take.  Hogan was given the reins of the offense, and he failed as OC. That's not on Jackson.

No, it is a good take because Hogan has said a zillion times his approach is to be bottom-up and take whatever ideas/advice he can from those around/under him.

And everyone knows Jarious was brought in to be an "OC Lite" for us.  I 100% guarantee he had as much input into the O play design/calls as he desired.  The fact the pair of them were kind of, uh, weak, looks bad on both of them.

[Tecno]

If we've talked to both, the smart money might be on Condell. Part of the problem this year was going with inexperience. You combine the fact the Condell's done it before along with the fact that he is Zach's favourite person in the CFL, and there might be too strong a connection to ignore.

Where did you get "Zach's favorite person" from?  I don't recall Zach mentioning Condell in any of his pressers in his time here.  However, the fact they worked together in HAM is certainly intriguing.  Add in that you guys think Condell is going to be fired from OTT... suddenly you get some serious increase in probability he indeed will come here.

Still have no idea where you get the $ in the coaches cap to pay the guy, though.  He won't work for beer, back bacon and smokes like Hogan did.

[Tecno]

Yikes... With a pretty questionable take like this, it makes me wonder what you think about Buck Pierce.

Touche.  The difference is, though, that Buck was our (GC) loser.  I like our loser more than their loser.  Plus, Buck kind of got the shaft in all 3 GC losses... our O did almost enough to win in all, absent the Zach injury in '24.  Condell had no chance in the '19 cup.

[Jesse]

Jeez, Zach seems to love everyone, according to this thread!  Is he living on a 1969 commune or something?

Well, reportedly doesn't love Hogan.

[Jesse]

Where did you get "Zach's favorite person" from?  I don't recall Zach mentioning Condell in any of his pressers in his time here.  However, the fact they worked together in HAM is certainly intriguing.  Add in that you guys think Condell is going to be fired from OTT... suddenly you get some serious increase in probability he indeed will come here.

Still have no idea where you get the $ in the coaches cap to pay the guy, though.  He won't work for beer, back bacon and smokes like Hogan did.

He's actively talked about Condell many times. Whatever that offensive scheme was that they used in Hamilton, Zach's a fan.

[blue_gold_84]

No, it is a good take because Hogan has said a zillion times his approach is to be bottom-up and take whatever ideas/advice he can from those around/under him.

It's a good take on the condition that you take Hogan at his word...? I'm not sure his word is worth that much at this juncture, as it doesn't seem like he operated with a bottom-up approach.

Touche.  The difference is, though, that Buck was our (GC) loser.  I like our loser more than their loser.  Plus, Buck kind of got the shaft in all 3 GC losses... our O did almost enough to win in all, absent the Zach injury in '24.  Condell had no chance in the '19 cup.

This is bit of an Aardvarkian take. If you claim that Condell choked in 2019 and 2021*, the same logic would have to be applied to Pierce in both 2022 and 2023, and quite possibly in 2024.

And you make it sound like Condell didn't deal with QB injury issues in either 2019 or 2021. He did, though.

* even though the Bombers were the better team that season