Elgersma waived

[Sir Blue and Gold]

Not sure why he mentioned Cincinnati except for referencing that their starter is out for the season and more opportunities may be out there.

But it honestly may prove to be the opposite. The Bengals signed Brett Rypien. Who has been absolutely awful every where he's got a chance. Teams aren't going to go looking for an inexperienced Canadian to fill in injury holes. They're gonna grab someone with playing experience, regardless of how poor that experience is.

For sure. A CIS kid who has never played 4 down football competitively (aside from his pre-season games in Green Bay) is never going anywhere near an NFL field to actually play. He has no real shot but I get from his perspective he wants to be sure.

[Freebird]

I couldn't find anywhere that Elgersma was signed by the Bengals

The QB Elgersma was competing with (Sean Clifford) for 3rd string or PR has found himself a job in Cincinnati.  Sean, not Elgersma

[Jesse]

The QB Elgersma was competing with (Sean Clifford) for 3rd string or PR has found himself a job in Cincinnati.  Sean, not Elgersma

Another jag with some (terrible) playing experience.

[Waffler]

I couldn't find anywhere that Elgersma was signed by the Bengals

Green Bay cut 2 QB's and one (Clifford) just found work with the Bengals. NOT Elgersma, the other guy. This is why I think Elgersma waits though. He had a better preseason than Clifford. He probably thinks if a guy I am better than gets work then so might I.

Elgersma went 16-23 for 166 yards and one touchdown
Clifford went 9-17 for 44 yards and no touchdowns

[theaardvark]

It's better for us if he doesn't come to the CFL until next year. If he returns now we use up the 1st year of an ELC deal and have to create roster space for him for the last 30 days.

If he comes north, no way he signs an ELC deal, and sees it through.  We will sign him to an ELC, and re-negotiate as soon as he shows ANY ability to be a #1. 

[Blue In BC]

If he comes north, no way he signs an ELC deal, and sees it through.  We will sign him to an ELC, and re-negotiate as soon as he shows ANY ability to be a #1. 

Draft choices have restricted amounts for new contract in the CFLPA.  There is some additional money for 1st rounders but IIRC the rest are stuck with close to entry level ELC deals. That would apply to him.

Thinking he gets immediately a new deal when he shows some ability doesn't happen very often.He may see the field for the 1st 2 years.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Draft choices have restricted amounts for new contract in the CFLPA.  There is some additional money for 1st rounders but IIRC the rest are stuck with close to entry level ELC deals. That would apply to him.

Thinking he gets immediately a new deal when he shows some ability doesn't happen very often.He may see the field for the 1st 2 years.

These ELC contracts are too slanted in the team's favour, they deter Canadian players looking to the NFL for a football career first who have little interest in playing in the CFL even if they fail.  I understand trying to control how much players can sign for in their first year, but after that every contract should be negotiable depending on their ability, some will get more, some less. 

Wince when I think how little Schoen was paid for his first 2 outstanding seasons now that his career may be over, he was unable to capitalize on his football career despite the sacrifice invested.

[Blue In BC]

These ELC contracts are too slanted in the team's favour, they deter Canadian players looking to the NFL for a football career first who have little interest in playing in the CFL even if they fail.  I understand trying to control how much players can sign for in their first year, but after that every contract should be negotiable depending on their ability, some will get more, some less. 

Wince when I think how little Schoen was paid for his first 2 outstanding seasons now that his career may be over, he was unable to capitalize on his football career despite the sacrifice invested.

Mandated ratio, options for 1 year contracts after the 1st contract. You want a free market place then get rid of the ratio.

[theaardvark]

I'll agree that ELC's have a place, and give teams a little time to develop a player and know whether a larger deal is warranted.

But, if Elgersma comes in and lights it up, his ELC gets tossed out and he gets a real deal.

ELC's prevent anyone else from signing a drafted player, but they do not limit how much a player can be paid.  They limit how little you can pay, but a team, at any time, can rip up a contract and make a new one.

[Blue In BC]

I'll agree that ELC's have a place, and give teams a little time to develop a player and know whether a larger deal is warranted.

But, if Elgersma comes in and lights it up, his ELC gets tossed out and he gets a real deal.

ELC's prevent anyone else from signing a drafted player, but they do not limit how much a player can be paid.  They limit how little you can pay, but a team, at any time, can rip up a contract and make a new one.

" If he comes in and lights it up": How often does any QB light it up in his 1st season? He probably doesn't even see the field.

Not entirely accurate assessment.

Example: Rourke was out of the CFL in the 3rd year of his contract in 2023. When he returned in 2024 he got the big raise. Rourke had 754 yards in his 1st year.

He lit it up in year 2 and decided on a chance in the NFL. with the NFL option window. Elgersma could follow a similar path if he does well.

That's a lot of big if's.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

I'll agree that ELC's have a place, and give teams a little time to develop a player and know whether a larger deal is warranted.

But, if Elgersma comes in and lights it up, his ELC gets tossed out and he gets a real deal.

ELC's prevent anyone else from signing a drafted player, but they do not limit how much a player can be paid.  They limit how little you can pay, but a team, at any time, can rip up a contract and make a new one.

Funny, the only instance I can recall is the Elks ripped up Dillon Mitchell's ELC contract after he played half a season in 2022 and signed him to a two year contract extension through 2025. 

[dd]

" If he comes in and lights it up": How often does any QB light it up in his 1st season? He probably doesn't even see the field.

Not entirely accurate assessment.

Example: Rourke was out of the CFL in the 3rd year of his contract in 2023. When he returned in 2024 he got the big raise. Rourke had 754 yards in his 1st year.

He lit it up in year 2 and decided on a chance in the NFL. with the NFL option window. Elgersma could follow a similar path if he does well.

That's a lot of big if's.

Agreed. Elgersma is a pipe dream at best, not the immediate help we need.

[Tecno]

Wince when I think how little Schoen was paid for his first 2 outstanding seasons now that his career may be over, he was unable to capitalize on his football career despite the sacrifice invested.

I don't know, he got pretty good bank when he re-signed with us off the ELC.  Ya, less because of injury history, but still respectable.  And he gets every penny even if he's on IR 95% of the season.

The main problem is he'll be a gamble/pity signing for any team in '26, and thus be cheap.