Official Game Day Thread - Calgary at Winnipeg, July 18, 2025

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Blue In BC

Quote from: Blueforlife on July 19, 2025, 04:46:01 PMSure missed these types of posts lol
Rebuild nope, retool
Won't win another game? I'll give 5 to 1 odds we do
Bombers don't have poor players we have a good mix of studs and a few duds imo
Our DC coaching mix is near best in league imo
Zach like all QBs will be hurt from time to time
Calling for us to move on from him is laughable imo
Full stop no on CodyNot ready for Allen at safety yet.  Might bring more problems than it solves.  Parker is good but might not be good enough at corner at this stage.  Allen likely better slowly developed than brought into the fire.  Did cross my mind yesterday.  Maybe later in the season.

We don't bump guys to the PR unless a better option is available.  Don't get better by deletion unless the addition is greater.

Agree biggest concern is Zach.Place is already ballistic imo by some but yes will go 100% manic if we drop another egg lol

Agree with some of your points

Toronto will be hungry and a tough out, without Zach really tough.

We don't know if Allen wouldn't be better at safety or whether Parker would falter at CB. What we do know is that Bridges is struggling every game and is the weakest link in our secondary.

Yes you can get better by deletion. Look at what Calgary did in the off season. Bumping / cutting vets and going with 2nd year or rookies starting. If we don't have better choices on our PR then that's a failure in scouting and TC choices.

Whether we have players that might be available by next week is TBD. Logan, Kelly ( also possible safety choice ) and Woods might be ready this week or next. That would bump someone to either PR, IR or released. Griffin is also a choice at safety.

Calgary started Johnson at CB yesterday as a rookie. 4 DT's and a pick.  Small sample size, but he had his assignments covered. Arnold and Grant are also CFL rookies.

The patience and the status quo is clearly on a downward trend.  We can't stop the rush ( 129 yards by Stamps ) and we can't stop 2nd and 10 yards. Same problems as a week ago.

The Stamps ran a nearly balanced offence. 24 pass attempts and 21 rushes.  Getting pressure on the QB if he still gets too much time, no sacks and can't stop the run, then that's a total failure.  We didn't record a TFL, again. Essentially the Stamps marched at will on our defence two games in a row.
One game at a time.

Blueforlife

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Quote from: Blue In BC on July 19, 2025, 05:48:20 PMWe don't know if Allen wouldn't be better at safety or whether Parker would falter at CB. What we do know is that Bridges is struggling every game and is the weakest link in our secondary.

Yes you can get better by deletion. Look at what Calgary did in the off season. Bumping / cutting vets and going with 2nd year or rookies starting. If we don't have better choices on our PR then that's a failure in scouting and TC choices.

Whether we have players that might be available by next week is TBD. Logan, Kelly ( also possible safety choice ) and Woods might be ready this week or next. That would bump someone to either PR, IR or released. Griffin is also a choice at safety.

Calgary started Johnson at CB yesterday as a rookie. 4 DT's and a pick.  Small sample size, but he had his assignments covered. Arnold and Grant are also CFL rookies.

The patience and the status quo is clearly on a downward trend.  We can't stop the rush ( 129 yards by Stamps ) and we can't stop 2nd and 10 yards. Same problems as a week ago.

The Stamps ran a nearly balanced offence. 24 pass attempts and 21 rushes.  Getting pressure on the QB if he still gets too much time, no sacks and can't stop the run, then that's a total failure.  We didn't record a TFL, again. Essentially the Stamps marched at will on our defence two games in a row.
Don't get better by deletion unless the addition is greater.  At the moment I am not sure if we have better option. We might want to shop for a DB, safety and receiver.  NFL cuts maybe could bring us a bump.

Agree us fans have no clue what Allen would bring.  Likely 50/50 shot Parker is a better corner than Bridges.  The long term thinking in me says let Bridges slow cook.  Likely would pay off.

Status quo is being questioned.  Patience should still be considered with a lot of our lineup.   Too early to make any concrete judgments.  Lots of time left and lots of guys we haven't given a shot yet.  Will be a very interesting practice week and telling game this week.  Calgary told us we are nowhere near top dog at the moment.  That's ok, we can get hot later.  I think they and Adams will fizzle out when it matters most.

Woods would be welcome.  Yes Kelly might be an option but would need a few weeks to get up to speed.  I really like Griffen not sure how versatilile he would be.

Hard to argue with a lot of your post.  Very insightful.

Logal would give us a spark but would take him 2 or 3 games I think to make an impact.  Can he play receiver?  Stats tell me no.

Will be interesting to see if someone gets bumper off our PR.

Blue In BC

Bridges is a 2nd year player but 1st year starter and errors are to be expected. It's a fine line between letting him play through it or just get more time developing in practice. PR or 1 game IR.

Parker is not very big and we're being beaten by receiver height often

Allen is a pure rookie so we don't know how he'll do. OTOH, the Argos are starting Slywka and he's a rookie doing very well. I wonder if Allen is a candidate at CB?

All that said, I'd move Griffin to safety if we switch Bridges with Parker. Somebody must be the next man up at CB? Interestingly Vaval is listed at CB on the depth chart. That may or may not mean something and he may or may not be injured.
One game at a time.

Blueforlife

Quote from: Strevy on July 19, 2025, 05:39:09 PMGuessing he is gone by Banjo Bowl.  Players are just going through the motions.  Jackson is here and ready to go.
I'll put money against the prediction

Blueforlife

Quote from: Blue In BC on July 19, 2025, 06:54:01 PMBridges is a 2nd year player but 1st year starter and errors are to be expected. It's a fine line between letting him play through it or just get more time developing in practice. PR or 1 game IR.

Parker is not very big and we're being beaten by receiver height often

Allen is a pure rookie so we don't know how he'll do. OTOH, the Argos are starting Slywka and he's a rookie doing very well. I wonder if Allen is a candidate at CB?

All that said, I'd move Griffin to safety if we switch Bridges with Parker. Somebody must be the next man up at CB?
Griffin shows promise but I wouldn't play him a safety.  He is already a big part of our rotation and is doing well imo.

I think we give Bridges more rope, yes fine line to be sure.

Slywka looks like a stud!

BomberFan73

Quote from: Blue In BC on July 19, 2025, 06:54:01 PMBridges is a 2nd year player but 1st year starter and errors are to be expected. It's a fine line between letting him play through it or just get more time developing in practice. PR or 1 game IR.

Parker is not very big and we're being beaten by receiver height often

Allen is a pure rookie so we don't know how he'll do. OTOH, the Argos are starting Slywka and he's a rookie doing very well. I wonder if Allen is a candidate at CB?

All that said, I'd move Griffin to safety if we switch Bridges with Parker. Somebody must be the next man up at CB? Interestingly Vaval is listed at CB on the depth chart. That may or may not mean something and he may or may not be injured.

I'd put Allen in place of Bridges to get him some plays & experience. A little more size back there couldn't hurt.

Blue In BC

Quote from: Blueforlife on July 19, 2025, 06:56:04 PMGriffin shows promise but I wouldn't play him a safety.  He is already a big part of our rotation and is doing well imo.

I think we give Bridges more rope, yes fine line to be sure.

Slywka looks like a stud!

I like what Griffin is doing as a LB but J. Jones might be capable of doing his role. That has ratio implications but if we take Bridges off the AR that's a choice.

Unfortunately Bridges is currently the weakest link in the secondary. He has upside but his time might not be NOW.

If we could improve the DL, the secondary would improve by default. Woods is our only possible choice but he's on 6 game IR.
One game at a time.

Blue In BC

Quote from: BomberFan73 on July 19, 2025, 06:58:44 PMI'd put Allen in place of Bridges to get him some plays & experience. A little more size back there couldn't hurt.

You'd put him in at CB or safety?
One game at a time.

Blueforlife

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Quote from: Blue In BC on July 19, 2025, 07:01:37 PMI like what Griffin is doing as a LB but J. Jones might be capable of doing his role. That has ratio implications but if we take Bridges off the AR that's a choice.

Unfortunately Bridges is currently the weakest link in the secondary. He has upside but his time might not be NOW.

If we could improve the DL, the secondary would improve by default. Woods is our only possible choice but he's on 6 game IR.
Ah now you speaking my language, I don't mind that now.  Jones would be a good replacement!

Woods is a decent upgrade imo.

I wouldn't put Allen on the corner, he would get shell shocked likely.  Need to slowly develop.  Seen the Oilers rush and ruin guys.

Blue In BC

Quote from: Blueforlife on July 19, 2025, 07:05:00 PMAh now you speaking my language, I don't mind that now.  Jones would be a good replacement!

Woods is a decent upgrade imo.

I wouldn't put Allen on the corner, he would get shell shocked likely.  Need to slowly develop.  Seen the Oilers rush and ruin guys.

The thing about Bridges at the moment is he's biting on some 1st moves by receivers. Ok, he's up against some receivers that will beat DB's. I may have a larger issue in that he seems to miss a lot of tackles.

Griffin by definition is our back up SAM and that means he's cover guy and can lay the wood on receivers.

Somebody goes to practices will have to provide input on who else gets reps at safety and CB.

We could argue that Hallett might be a consideration at safety and he does have experience there. A short term solution but possibly allows other options and he's a ratio advantage.

If and when Woods is healthy he doesn't have to be a direct replacement to start but he could be a replacement as a DI on the DL.

One game at a time.

BomberFan73

Quote from: Blue In BC on July 19, 2025, 07:02:39 PMYou'd put him in at CB or safety?

Start him off at DB, then maybe get him some time at safety and swap with Parker

BomberFan73

Sure were plenty of Stamps fans in attendance last night. I had the displeasure of sitting behind a couple of obnoxious ones.

theaardvark

Man, that was a stinker. 

What is sad is that it takes only one player to whiff on a play to bring the whole play down.  On many busted plays, a number of players get that whiff out of their system.  Seems like last night each bad play was only one player missing.  So, there were a lot more bad plays.

Defenders and receivers falling down was a big issue.

Losing your QB was an issue, and I love Strevy, but he was not good last night.  The occasional nice run or good pass does not make up for the rest of the problems.

I would have liked to see Wilson in the 4th.  No points and no positive progress for Strevy for the last part of the first half and the entire 3rd quarter should have triggered the hook in my book.  Wilson is not here to be the SY guy, he's supposed to be the next one.  Give him that chance.  Or find another guy that you are willing to do that with.
Unabashed positron.  Blue koolaid in my fridge.  I wear my blue sunglasses at night.  Homer, d'oh.

Blue In BC

Here's a thought I had last week. Move Clercius inside to SB and add Mitchell at WR. We aren't getting enormous production outside with him or from either of our SB choices. Clercius might be a better blocker inside.

If the issue is that Mitchell can't play SB then replace either Sterns or Case at SB for this combination of changes. We were also back to 8 Canadian starters so Mitchell could be that starter and Clercius could be the rotation receiver.

Based on the last game that would take Person off the AR to add Mitchell as a WR. Mitchell is going to be faster, slippery and good at YAC.
One game at a time.

The Zipp

Quote from: theaardvark on July 19, 2025, 07:53:26 PMMan, that was a stinker. 

What is sad is that it takes only one player to whiff on a play to bring the whole play down.  On many busted plays, a number of players get that whiff out of their system.  Seems like last night each bad play was only one player missing.  So, there were a lot more bad plays.

Defenders and receivers falling down was a big issue.

Losing your QB was an issue, and I love Strevy, but he was not good last night.  The occasional nice run or good pass does not make up for the rest of the problems.

I would have liked to see Wilson in the 4th.  No points and no positive progress for Strevy for the last part of the first half and the entire 3rd quarter should have triggered the hook in my book.  Wilson is not here to be the SY guy, he's supposed to be the next one.  Give him that chance.  Or find another guy that you are willing to do that with.


100% on T Wilson getting into the game.  he should be the backup - he can do everything Strev can at this point - get him some experience in game.