Official Game Day Thread - Calgary at Winnipeg, July 18, 2025

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Blueforlife

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Quote from: Strevy on July 19, 2025, 11:10:31 PMZach is washed, has been for awhile.  Dude is a pick six machine.  We are not middle of the pack lol.  Slightly better than the Elks.  This team is really bad from the top down.  2015 all over again, 5-13.
Zach having a decent start.  Good year last year after a rough start.  Not a pick six machine, career stats indicate otherwise.  Elks are a bottom feeder, we are light years ahead of them, like most the league.  We are an average club that still has a chance to improve.  I'll take action that we are considerably better than 2015.  Your previous suggestion that MOS is a worse coach than Dyce is laughable.  Dyce is learning, MOS is close to being a legend in these parts and will go down as one of the best in Bomber history.  Your posts are as overstated on the negative as I have seen and make very little sense imo.

Blueforlife

Quote from: Strevy on July 19, 2025, 11:36:52 PM7td, 6int.  Zach is trash now,  Oshay is a garbage HC.  The compete level is embarrassing.  Thinking this team is middle of the pack makes no sense.  But carry on.
Not trash in anyway shape or form.  Go to practice and call him that.  Report back.
MOS is not garbage.  Remarkable playing and coaching career.  Your posts on here are disrespectful and have no place on here.  I'll take bets on  your predictions which are laughable at best.  3 and 2, which is middle of the pack.

Pigskin

Okay so with Zach we were in the game. The Strev17 goal line Int really changed the game. However with that said, I was disappointed with 10 minutes left in the fourth quarter and there was no way we were coming back. Why doesn't MOS play the backups.

Our 3 Canadian LBs Shay, Smith, and Novak. Corcoran in for one of the RWs. And, Patterson had zero touches. Not that Brady is playing bad or that our running game wasn't working, 146 yards, but just a change of pace.

We also have a very small group of DBs who just haven't done well against big RWs. Parker 5'8", Nichols 5'9", Bonds 5'8", add in we are getting very little pressure from our DL.

Our 4 DTs, have made 17 tackles. JT95 with only 2 of those. Willy and Vaughters have 21 and one sack.

Tony Jones leaders the team with 31 DTs and 1 sack. 
Don't go through life looking in the rearview mirror.

BBRT

Quote from: Pigskin on July 20, 2025, 03:57:59 PMOkay so with Zach we were in the game. The Strev17 goal line Int really changed the game. However with that said, I was disappointed with 10 minutes left in the fourth quarter and there was no way we were coming back. Why doesn't MOS play the backups.

Our 3 Canadian LBs Shay, Smith, and Novak. Corcoran in for one of the RWs. And, Patterson had zero touches. Not that Brady is playing bad or that our running game wasn't working, 146 yards, but just a change of pace.

We also have a very small group of DBs who just haven't done well against big RWs. Parker 5'8", Nichols 5'9", Bonds 5'8", add in we are getting very little pressure from our DL.

Our 4 DTs, have made 17 tackles. JT95 with only 2 of those. Willy and Vaughters have 21 and one sack.

Tony Jones leaders the team with 31 DTs and 1 sack. 

My main question to the Bomber Management is how do the other teams seems to recruit these large receivers while we can not seem to do so. This guy they call Moose with the Stamps is huge. The entire Stamps OL and DL seem new or at least only a few years under their belt while we stay with the same old troops. Our recruiting efforts are very suspect this year IMHO.

The Zipp

Quote from: BBRT on July 20, 2025, 04:05:29 PMMy main question to the Bomber Management is how do the other teams seems to recruit these large receivers while we can not seem to do so. This guy they call Moose with the Stamps is huge. The entire Stamps OL and DL seem new or at least only a few years under their belt while we stay with the same old troops. Our recruiting efforts are very suspect this year IMHO.

moose was the number one pick in the draft - going to the grey cup 5 years in a row isn't getting you the number one pick.  this isn't "recruiting" it's draft picks and it isn't fair to complain about not having the first pick

Jesse

Quote from: The Zipp on July 20, 2025, 04:18:58 PMmoose was the number one pick in the draft - going to the grey cup 5 years in a row isn't getting you the number one pick.  this isn't "recruiting" it's draft picks and it isn't fair to complain about not having the first pick

He didn't complain about not having the #1 draft pick, he asked why we don't have some size in our receiving core.
My wife is amazing!

The Zipp

Quote from: Jesse on July 20, 2025, 06:52:26 PMHe didn't complain about not having the #1 draft pick, he asked why we don't have some size in our receiving core.

specially made it sound like calgary "recruited" Alford. he wasn't recruited - he was drafted.  should the Bombers find some larger receivers ?  sure but don't use a canadian draft pick who was clearly going in the top 2 or 3 as an example.  Clercius isn't tiny he is 6'3"...alford is an uncommon 6'6"...those guys are rare. 


Pete

Alford aside the recruitment of dline personnel has been awful. We haven't found an adequate de since Jeffcoat left
 Even in training camp for some reason we bring in 20 dbs 20 reciever and only 4 dlinemen. Yet Argos and Stamps can rebuild their entire line. We cant find a replacement for Thomas who is clearly done. The oline has its issues as well. Instead we stock up on LBs who we dont play

The Zipp

Quote from: Pete on July 20, 2025, 08:02:39 PMAlford aside the recruitment of dline personnel has been awful. We haven't found an adequate de since Jeffcoat left
 Even in training camp for some reason we bring in 20 dbs 20 reciever and only 4 dlinemen. Yet Argos and Stamps can rebuild their entire line. We cant find a replacement for Thomas who is clearly done. The oline has its issues as well. Instead we stock up on LBs who we dont play

roster mismanagement is an issue. 

gm - fat and sassy
coach - fat and sassy
players - fat and sassy

less urgency = losses to teams who are fired up and focused

Waffler

I just see it being MOS wants to keep "his" guys, the ones that have been there before with him and won (mostly). Unfortunately, there are fewer over all league best players here now. Probably just Oliveira left of a long list. We have been bled to "death by a thousand cuts". Years of low draft picks and losing players in free agency is our reward for winning too much. If they wanted to win the Cup here this year, the way to do it was a major over haul two years ago, when we let Dru Brown walk. I can't complain too much though we made it to the Cup last year. Coulda, shoulda.
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Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: The Zipp on July 20, 2025, 07:27:16 PMspecially made it sound like calgary "recruited" Alford. he wasn't recruited - he was drafted.  should the Bombers find some larger receivers ?  sure but don't use a canadian draft pick who was clearly going in the top 2 or 3 as an example.  Clercius isn't tiny he is 6'3"...alford is an uncommon 6'6"...those guys are rare. 

Sask. has done an excellent job drafting big Natl. receivers, started with McInnis, Brayden Lenius, Schaffer-Baker, Emilus, Ajou Ajou and this year they signed 6'-3 200+ lbs Tommy Nield away from the Argos.  It can be done if made a priority to pick one tall receiver in the draft every year, some hit others miss, just like any other position.  Starting 3 or more natl. receivers allows the Riders to cheat the ratio in other critical positions like the O and D-lines.

Blueforlife

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Quote from: Pete on July 20, 2025, 08:02:39 PMAlford aside the recruitment of dline personnel has been awful. We haven't found an adequate de since Jeffcoat left
 Even in training camp for some reason we bring in 20 dbs 20 reciever and only 4 dlinemen. Yet Argos and Stamps can rebuild their entire line. We cant find a replacement for Thomas who is clearly done. The oline has its issues as well. Instead we stock up on LBs who we dont play
We have some good talent at LB (and some good prospects in the pipe), pillar of strength for us imo.  We use most of them.  Our talent at DB is reasonable.  Our DL will get a boost when Woods comes back.  Our defense is build on the flexibility that our LB corps bring.  Has been a receipe for success for half a decade.  Yes we had a couple terrible games and could use improvement on our DL and Bridges needs to continue his development.

Vaughters has been good.  Woods and Adams are still developing but are decent.  Lawson will replace Thomas.  Believe you are being a little harsh about our approach on the DL.  Yes would be nice to have another stud but studs are expensive.  We lost some talent on the DL as we got priced out / moved on with a few guys.

Quote from: The Zipp on July 20, 2025, 08:24:13 PMroster mismanagement is an issue. 

gm - fat and sassy
coach - fat and sassy
players - fat and sassy

less urgency = losses to teams who are fired up and focused
Roster hasn't been mismanaged.  We have dressed our best options thus far imo.

GM is excellent
Coaching is good to great
Players are at least average as a whole

I agree on the intensity part

I don't agree with the name calling.  Try bringing up that language at practice, let me know the outcome.  Overstated on the negative with little to no evidence to back your claim.  We laid two eggs, deep breath.  Not surprised at your take here, pretty consist with your posts as of late which is ok, that's your take/posting style.  I'm still half positive we will have a good season.  Need the OL to shore up, get more pressure on DL and reduce the explosion passing plays.  In 2 to 3 games I expect 2 out of the 3 to be at least partially resolved, pending the health of the club.  Our course we live or die on Zach's health.

BLUEBOMBER

Clearly Bombers need help in the recruitment department. But most importantly, it doesn't seem like the Bombers have that edge on defence anymore. Hall's defences would never casually allow 40+ points.

Blueforlife

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Quote from: BLUEBOMBER on July 20, 2025, 09:43:51 PMClearly Bombers need help in the recruitment department. But most importantly, it doesn't seem like the Bombers have that edge on defence anymore. Hall's defences would never casually allow 40+ points.
Scouting will be better going forward as we made changes last year.  Defense got lit up but was pretty good to start the season.  We don't have the top D like in the past but there is still potential here.  I see us as better than BC but need a bit of work to get to Cgy / Sasks / Mtls level.  Gotta punch TO in the mouth here.  After that schedule near term is tough, other than Ottawa.

dd

If Collaros and Schoen are out, this team isn't punching anyone in the mouth, we will struggle to score 20 points.

Tough times are upon us