Stamps at Blue Bombers pre game thread

Started by GOLDMEMBER, July 07, 2025, 10:05:19 PM

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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on July 16, 2025, 02:04:24 PMI'm okay with missing either or both. Neither have been particularly great this year and so therefore neither replacement needs to be "peak" Bryant or Schoen.

Then we are probably screwed.  A GC-host GC-bound team needs to have at least one top-5 REC.  Preferably 2.  Certainly we need 1-2 top-10 RECs.

If Schoen is out, we have zero top-5, and probably zero top-10 RECs.  We'd have a weaker REC corps than even the worst REC teams like SSK (ewww) and EDM.

You don't make your run for the home cup with a corps like that.  You do what SSK 2013 did and get the league-best REC (Simon) as well as other top supporting cast.

Quote from: Pigskin on July 16, 2025, 09:05:11 PMThinking that your thinking 2022/23 for DS83. Strev 2019.

But we are thinking '22 Schoen.  Clearly that was the plan all along.  We put all of our REC eggs into that basket, on a big gamble he'd give better YDS/TD per SMS$ than Kenny.  If Kenny goes this whole year unhurt and keeps his current production up then we made a biiiiiiiiig mistake not matching HAM's offer.  Doubly so if Schoen is in the tub or dropping all his balls.

I remain optimistic, however crazy that seems right at this moment.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Throw Long Bannatyne on July 16, 2025, 09:23:22 PMSnead reminds me of Dressler and Luke Tasker, smart receivers that always show up in the right place at the right time.

Except he hasn't.  Yet.  And he might get benched.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on July 16, 2025, 10:21:35 PMGuy is lightning quick. One of those guys who looks fast and plays faster. The change of direction is impressive. He needs to be put in the right situations. Looking forward to seeing how he's developed.

(Case)

Ya but he didn't show squat the couple/few times he was on our AR before as returner and backup REC (I think).  I guess 1-2 more years dev might help, but until we see something, it's all just a dreams and wishes.

If our season and GC hopes rest on Case, I think we may be in for a heap of pain, and it's reflective of very, very bad GM choices.
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blue_or_die

Happy to hear there's so much enthusiasm for Case although I have no idea where it's coming from
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Jesse

Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 16, 2025, 10:28:33 PMEven if it's 9Y a game, that's 3-4 drives that can continue vs die.  That wins you games.  It all depends on the YAC is distributed: many tiny plays vs big 40Y YAC explosions.

However, it's a good question and I'll try to pay particular attention to it this week.  We'll get to see both MTL and WPG and the YAC they do / don't do.


Or it's one play that went for 27 yards instead of 18.
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Jesse

Quote from: blue_or_die on July 16, 2025, 10:38:39 PMHappy to hear there's so much enthusiasm for Case although I have no idea where it's coming from

It's coming from the fact that Wheatfall made a second year leap so why not Case?
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Sir Blue and Gold

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Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 16, 2025, 10:37:32 PM(Case)

Ya but he didn't show squat the couple/few times he was on our AR before as returner and backup REC (I think).  I guess 1-2 more years dev might help, but until we see something, it's all just a dreams and wishes.

If our season and GC hopes rest on Case, I think we may be in for a heap of pain, and it's reflective of very, very bad GM choices.

Lol "if our season rests on Case." Only you could turn being patient with a guy and developing him along into a triple negative.

If he was Canadian he'd have started 20 games already.


Throw Long Bannatyne

Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 16, 2025, 10:37:32 PM(Case)

Ya but he didn't show squat the couple/few times he was on our AR before as returner and backup REC (I think).  I guess 1-2 more years dev might help, but until we see something, it's all just a dreams and wishes.

If our season and GC hopes rest on Case, I think we may be in for a heap of pain, and it's reflective of very, very bad GM choices.

What's the harm giving Case a chance?  They kept him over a bunch of other receivers, maybe he'll show us why. 

Pete

or else demonstrate once again how OShea puts loyalty to his favored players ahead of talent

TecnoGenius

Quote from: Jesse on July 16, 2025, 10:39:18 PMIt's coming from the fact that Wheatfall made a second year leap so why not Case?

Because Wheatie started like half a year of games for us in '24, and played in the GC.

Case... uh, dressed (not started) in 3 games.  2 TAR, 1 REC, 5 YDS.

Hey, I have nothing at all against Case.  Maybe he's a secret Pokey and the next Dressler.  I'm just saying that our heir apparent #1 top-3 CFL REC Schoen being replaced by him does not give me great optimism in our quest to win the home cup.  Now, if you replaced Sterns or Wheatie with him... that would be a different story.
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TecnoGenius

Quote from: Sir Blue and Gold on July 16, 2025, 11:56:09 PMIf he was Canadian he'd have started 20 games already.

But he is an IMP, isn't he.  (Said in the voice of the crazy lady in Whatever Happend To Baby Jane.  And if you haven't seen the movie, this post will make zero sense.)
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Pigskin

Quote from: blue_or_die on July 16, 2025, 10:38:39 PMHappy to hear there's so much enthusiasm for Case although I have no idea where it's coming from

I think it comes from the people that go to practice and watch these players develop. You see a guy like Case putting in the work, and making some great catches.
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Waffler

Pretty deep divide on Case here.  Derek Taylor called it a "big drop off" on the radio and he goes to every practice. To me it depends if Case can play full speed and with confidence in a game now, if so he can make a contribution. It's wait and see.

If Schoen remains out, how many games will he get? Would middling results matter? Hard to judge what O'Shea will do. He stuck with Josh Johnson and Ontaria Wilson a long time, rewarded by only one of them.
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BomberFan73

This was the guy who was on the Colts roster, right?  Ya, you don't make the NFL if you're a bum WR.

Jesse

Quote from: BomberFan73 on July 17, 2025, 12:58:26 PMThis was the guy who was on the Colts roster, right?  Ya, you don't make the NFL if you're a bum WR.

Every guy has been through an NFL training camp before coming up here, it doesn't mean anything.

I haven't been blown away with any of receivers yet, but obviously that's on Zach and the OL too.
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