Stamps at Blue Bombers pre game thread

[GOLDMEMBER]

The boys better come back in far better head space than they did in Cowtown.

I expect the boys to be extra sharp.

The DL pressure, or severe lack there of, is a major concern for me.

Can Zach play within his current self! If the receiver isn't open throw it away for lords sake. He is reminding me of Matt Nichols these days. Inconsistent QB.

[Blueforlife]

Zach is nothing like Nichols but yes could learn from his ability to throw the ball away imo

Yes we need a strong response

Hopefully we can modify our QB pressure schemes

Who looks to be nicked for this?

[Pete]

for our defensive line we really need to have more/better backups than Thomas and Kornelson. In a game like last one where our offense isn't controlling the time of possession they will get worn out by end of game or at least become less effective.
the injury that we seemed to have was Schoen and we don't know his status. Also heard Ayers might have been nicked

[Pete]

Just some general observations from the first four games
The good
Wilson - has been strong
Griffin continues to impress
Lawton getting healthy
Schoen too
Peterson - a younger alternative to Augustine showing great potential
Parker a bit mixed but improvement over Alexander
The bad
Bryant,Jefferson, Thomas starting to show age
Zac - inconsistent
Not having signed any quality free agent cdns after loosing Dobson/Ford
Bridges - definitely the weakest link
The inexplicable
Our lack of dline options,other teams ie Calgary/argos have no trouble finding good players while we trot out Kornelson,Thomas and little in the way of nonimport dline backups

[Blue In BC]

Bombers need to come out in control from the 1st snap of the ball. Letting the opponent drive for a TD on the opening drive is unacceptable.

Once the team starts practising we'll know the status of Schoen although he may get and extra day or 2 off? Hopefully he's ok and will be able to play.

I'm not aware of any other potential new injuries. Possibly Ayers got nicked but not sure about that.  IIRC some of the 6 game IR players might be able to start practice if healthy. Whether any of them ( Logan, Makonzo or Kelly ) have reached that time IDK. They wouldn't be added yet even if they start practice after this long off. Getting 2 additional Canadians healthy would be beneficial.

No need to bring Benson back from 1 game IR at the moment. LS has not been an issue.

So. If Schoen is not able to play then it would seem Mitchell would be added.

If Ayers can't play then we might see J. Jones or Person added for depth at DE.

Until we get more conclusive updates I'm not actually expecting any changes to the AR for this game.

[bwiser]

Bombers need to come out in control from the 1st snap of the ball. Letting the opponent drive for a TD on the opening drive is unacceptable.

Once the team starts practising we'll know the status of Schoen although he may get and extra day or 2 off? Hopefully he's ok and will be able to play.

I'm not aware of any other potential new injuries. Possibly Ayers got nicked but not sure about that.  IIRC some of the 6 game IR players might be able to start practice if healthy. Whether any of them ( Logan, Makonzo or Kelly ) have reached that time IDK. They wouldn't be added yet even if they start practice after this long off. Getting 2 additional Canadians healthy would be beneficial.

No need to bring Benson back from 1 game IR at the moment. LS has not been an issue.

So. If Schoen is not able to play then it would seem Mitchell would be added.

If Ayers can't play then we might see J. Jones or Person added for depth at DE.

Until we get more conclusive updates I'm not actually expecting any changes to the AR for this game.

If Schoen can't go, Mitchell will be highly motivated to show his new team they didn't make a mistake.

[blue_gold_84]

Avenging that Stampede Bowl loss is a must. I fully expect a better showing after the bye.

[Sir Blue and Gold]

Bombers didn't re-sign some real good players. For a grey cup at home season, that was a big mistake.

I mean we kept what has turned out to be "has been!".
Collaros has not been an asset this early season.  His arm is dead. We have virtually a dink and dump offence. And even then Collaros can't. Throw a wide side out.

My ******** about that offensive co-ordinator, and that nrilliant defensive coordinator was really evident at the game in Calgary.

Our offensive line and that tall guy on defense are playing like it's pre-season.  Or worse, picking when to put forth effort and when not to.

Lousy week for a bye.

Is it true, their bags were already packed to go on vacation, before the game was played.
The organization was very disappointing. And the coaching staff looked like, their hiring was a charity case.

A lot of players did have good performances.

Specifically for week 5, PFFs:

Micah Vanterpool was the 3rd best guard in the league (66.5) (note that Vanterpool was the best ranked guard in all the CFL in his last game) so he's doing impressive things for a basically a first year guy. Everyone wants Wallace to be really good but Vanterpool already is.

Neufeld (64.8 ) and Wallace (63. 8 ) were middle of the road

Kolankowski still managed a 63.8 which is good for 4th best centre.

Evan Holm was the best halfback in the CFL with an 80.0 - absurd considering the game script.

The bad news is that both are tackles were whipped bad. Tyrell Bonds was a 62.1 which may be fodder to attack our corner play but he was better than Tyrell Ford last week, so take it with some salt.

I could keep going but the the takeaway? It wasn't our best game but relax. And O'Shea is 18-1 coming off a bye or something silly.

[blue_gold_84]

Bombers didn't re-sign some real good players. For a grey cup at home season, that was a big mistake.

The bigger mistake would be mortgaging the future on the chance to win a championship on home field.

Don't be so reactionary over one bad loss.

[Blueforlife]

Bombers didn't re-sign some real good players. For a grey cup at home season, that was a big mistake.

I mean we kept what has turned out to be "has been!".
Collaros has not been an asset this early season.  His arm is dead. We have virtually a dink and dump offence. And even then Collaros can't. Throw a wide side out.

My ******** about that offensive co-ordinator, and that nrilliant defensive coordinator was really evident at the game in Calgary.

Our offensive line and that tall guy on defense are playing like it's pre-season.  Or worse, picking when to put forth effort and when not to.

Lousy week for a bye.

Is it true, their bags were already packed to go on vacation, before the game was played.
The organization was very disappointing. And the coaching staff looked like, their hiring was a charity case.

Zach arm is not dead, he has played average and still has a lot to give imo
We lost some talent but also had a decent off season in replacing them imo
Our OC is learning and patience will pay off imo
Our DC is great imo backed by the legend Hall
OL is decent imo, work in progress
Organization is the class of the CFL, no charity cases imo
Your post is over stated on the negative imo
In the past you have called for coaches to be fired, players dumped and all we did was dominate and win cups.  In this case, like in the past, I believe you are stretching a bit and over reacting to a terrible game.  I have hope we can quickly turn this around.  A bump in the road to be sure!
Your take on the Bombers is welcome on here and keep it up as your 2nd post had some interesting insights, agree about the DBs!!!

[Blue In BC]

Not sure if the Bombers start practice on Sunday or Monday. Just a guess but I think after the bye it will be the longer cycle of practice days + walk through.

Regardless, I am wondering whether we see a couple of new players added to the PR shortly. That's always complicated because we have to see what movement we have from our IR lists. This could include some of the longer 6 game IR getting healthy and beginning to practice. In turn that impacts what positional players we might consider to bring in to the PR.

As mentioned earlier, is Schoen injured and heading to IR and for how long?

IMO we could be looking at another DL ( preferably a DE ) and a receiver. OTOH new players means someone might be released to compensate.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

Not sure if the Bombers start practice on Sunday or Monday. Just a guess but I think after the bye it will be the longer cycle of practice days + walk through.

Regardless, I am wondering whether we see a couple of new players added to the PR shortly. That's always complicated because we have to see what movement we have from our IR lists. This could include some of the longer 6 game IR getting healthy and beginning to practice. In turn that impacts what positional players we might consider to bring in to the PR.

As mentioned earlier, is Schoen injured and heading to IR and for how long?

IMO we could be looking at another DL ( preferably a DE ) and a receiver. OTOH new players means someone might be released to compensate.

Not something the Bombers usually do as they have a couple of untried options in house, but the Stamps just released DE Cedric Wilcots a few days ago, he was with the Bombers in 22 before they traded him to the Ti-Cats.

https://3downnation.com/2025/07/07/calgary-stampeders-release-veteran-dl-cedric-wilcots-ii/

[BomberFan73]

Holy crap, we don't play for another whole week 
The schedule this year sucks.

[Blue In BC]

Not something the Bombers usually do as they have a couple of untried options in house, but the Stamps just released DE Cedric Wilcots a few days ago, he was with the Bombers in 22 before they traded him to the Ti-Cats.

https://3downnation.com/2025/07/07/calgary-stampeders-release-veteran-dl-cedric-wilcots-ii/

All teams shuffle their PR a bit during the season. Injuries factor into those choices. Woods is on the 6 game IR and I don't know if or when he might be available. If he's not expected to play for an extended time we might want to bring in another import DT. Schmekle a Canadian is all we have for depth.

Depth at DE we have Person and the global player in Bailey.  How either are shaping out IDK but neither may be ready for prime time. Both of our starters are not the youngest players so that's potentially an issue.

Receiver depth depends on whether Schoen is out and the status of Logan. IMO Case is only a viable returner option. So if Logan is healthy then Case could be bumped from the PR to make room for another receiver to look at.

I don't know how informative this weeks daily IR reports will be. Telling us " DNP " doesn't give us indication of when a return might be possible.

We might see that 6 game IR players might return to practice this week. That would put them at least a couple of weeks before possibly being added to the AR if we choose. Kelly, Makonzo and Woods all fall into that category if they are returning to health.

The thing is that we don't know if any of them will play in 2025. So that depth is a TBD.

[Pigskin]

I would pass on Wilcox. He's done very little to nothing when he does play.