Official Game Day Thread - Winnipeg at Edmonton - Sept. 21, 2024

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Pigskin

Looks like 15 at kick off tomorrow. Nice weather for the big boys.
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Blue In BC

Quote from: ichabod_crane on September 20, 2024, 10:53:42 PMI call B.S.! You don't know the makeup of this team then and the pride of the veterans on it coming into the season. They would not tank a season despite a slow start. AND THEY WERE NEVER 1-6! That was the 2011 BC LIONS! KNOW YOUR HISTORY DUDE! You are making stuff up so I call B.S.!

I never said we have won anything yet. Where do you see me saying this? Show me a quote!

Odds schmods, like statistics are sometimes for losers. Life is not only about numbers...I guess maybe you are too young too fully understand that yet.

Sorry if I come on strong, but when I see B.S. I will call it. You can't bully me or make things up without a retort from me. Other than that, I wish you a great weekend and GO BLUE! Maybe they tank the rest of the season for all I know because I have no crystal ball which some people seemed to think they had early in the season, but they won't tank from lack of effort as too much pride on this team to throw in the towel when they just climbed out of their hole. 

Ok, correction 2 - 6 or whatever it looked like in the early going. It's history now but it wasn't good history which was the point.

I've been watching this team since 1957. I'm 75 years old. I don't have a need to bully you. You're the one calling out others as chicken littles.  I've re-watched nearly every same since 1985 and VHS. Some games I've watched 3 times. So I think I have a fair idea of the strength, weaknesses and character of the roster.

I may  have made an error in stating the early season win / loss record but that is hardly BS or a made up comment.

You seem to be making things up saying I don't know the make up of the team or that guessing I'm young.

I never said you said we won anything. I spoke to statistical probabilities which is not for losers. It's just math fact. Bombers have a distinct advantage now as the ONLY team that has won more games then they lost in the west. The also have the season series over the Lions, Riders and Stamps. Destiny is in their control.

Interesting saying that they wouldn't tank the season because of a slow start but then say the season might still be tanked. Your crystal ball needs some cleaning.

The one thing you can't control is injuries though and none of us know how that will go. We can't afford too many more.  Character doesn't beat injury problems. That did us in in last year's Grey Cup.

I also said never said we'd tank the season or at any part lacked effort. We did lack preparedness in the early going.

There were only a very few really negative posters early in the season that wanted changes and were more gloom and doom than the majority. Others expressed their concerns in good discussion with a lot of valid points and issues.
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Blueforlife

Quote from: ichabod_crane on September 20, 2024, 09:03:01 PMWas WAY TOO MANY CHICKEN LITTLES earlier in the season. I hope everyone knows PATIENCE IS A VIRTUE! ;)  In the Manitoba Mafia we trust! :D ;)
Feed was on sale at Peavy and people were stock piling lol

Should be some good prices on kijiji now ;)

J5V

Quote from: ichabod_crane on September 20, 2024, 09:03:01 PMWas WAY TOO MANY CHICKEN LITTLES earlier in the season. I hope everyone knows PATIENCE IS A VIRTUE! ;)  In the Manitoba Mafia we trust! :D ;)
Loved what Zach had to say here about how the Bombers stuck to it.

Interview with Zach Collaros
Go Bombers!

Blueforlife

Quote from: J5V on September 21, 2024, 03:05:50 AMLoved what Zach had to say here about how the Bombers stuck to it.

Interview with Zach Collaros
Consistency is all we do.  Zach silenced the crictics on this amazing turn around.  Nice time to be a Bomber fan.  The mini dynasty continues.

TecnoGenius

So they did push Jones to MLB and Wilson takes his usual spot.  This is the answer to the question of whether Mafia thought Jones could play and handle the middle.

If Wilson takes over as "D QB" and has soaked up everything cerebral with 5 season with Biggie, and Jones can be as good at MLB as he was at WILL... then we may have the best combo since maybe 2021.

I'm truly excited for what those 2 can achieve together.  This could be the path forward and our version of team 100.
Never go full Rider!

Blue In BC

Quote from: Blueforlife on September 21, 2024, 03:23:44 AMConsistency is all we do.  Zach silenced the crictics on this amazing turn around.  Nice time to be a Bomber fan.  The mini dynasty continues.

We went from the highest scoring offence the last couple of seasons to the lowest scoring offence. Does that sound like consistency to you?

In 2022 Collaros had 37 TD's and 13 int's
In 2023 Collaros had 33 TD's and 15 int's
In 2024 Collaros has 8 TD's and 13 int's so far.

In 2022 - 2023 we lost a total of 7 regular season games.

Collaros has not played well this season. It's not all on him but all this is the opposite of consistency. The 2022 -2023 seasons were examples of consistency. Top scoring and least points given up ( or close to it ).
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Jesse

Quote from: TecnoGenius on September 21, 2024, 07:29:02 AMSo they did push Jones to MLB and Wilson takes his usual spot.  This is the answer to the question of whether Mafia thought Jones could play and handle the middle.

If Wilson takes over as "D QB" and has soaked up everything cerebral with 5 season with Biggie, and Jones can be as good at MLB as he was at WILL... then we may have the best combo since maybe 2021.

I'm truly excited for what those 2 can achieve together.  This could be the path forward and our version of team 100.

I don't think that was ever in question. The only reason why Jones wouldn't take over at MLB is because he was already in at WIL. Wilson coming back changed the equation.

Though the timing seems too perfect so I'm pretty anxious to see how Wilson holds up over the game.
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Blue In BC

I don't expect an Edmonton win. However if they do win, the standings will range from 14 to 12 points, 1st through 4th. The tie breakers are going to be very interesting at the end for several teams.

An Edmonton win would leave no team in the west with a win/loss above 50%. I don't remember when it's been so close with so few wins across the west. Odd to say the least.

Anyway. I predict an Bomber win by 10+ points. Rise to the challenge today.
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Jesse

Quote from: Blue In BC on September 21, 2024, 01:13:08 PMWe went from the highest scoring offence the last couple of seasons to the lowest scoring offence. Does that sound like consistency to you?

In 2022 Collaros had 37 TD's and 13 int's
In 2023 Collaros had 33 TD's and 15 int's
In 2024 Collaros has 8 TD's and 13 int's so far.

In 2022 - 2023 we lost a total of 7 regular season games.

Collaros has not played well this season. It's not all on him but all this is the opposite of consistency. The 2022 -2023 seasons were examples of consistency. Top scoring and least points given up ( or close to it ).

There's been a very stark change on both sides of the ball this season.

Our O has to move quicker (a mix of weaker OL and Receiving core), so Zach's getting the ball out quicker which is taking away all the late developing routes and broken plays we used to make hay on. I'm hoping a bit more focus on Brady as the weather turns will give us a little bump here.

Similar to our D, where we're not getting pressure on the opposing QB, so we're depending more on our secondary (which has thankfully worked out much better than our offensive corrections).
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Blue In BC

Quote from: Jesse on September 21, 2024, 01:17:02 PMI don't think that was ever in question. The only reason why Jones wouldn't take over at MLB is because he was already in at WIL. Wilson coming back changed the equation.

Though the timing seems too perfect so I'm pretty anxious to see how Wilson holds up over the game.

If we have trouble against the run, we'll have problems. That's our weakness on defence. Getting Wilson back and Jones at MLB ( instead of Gauthier ) should help. That will give us more speed against the run.

I don't think what our game plan defensively will be is clear yet. The Elks have been dangerous running team.

The Elks ran for 300 yards over the 2 games against the Stamps. That was without Ford as the starting QB. At least Leakes is out this week.
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Jesse

I think we can continue to expect those 3 man fronts. Going to need a lot from Jones and Wilson.
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Blue In BC

Quote from: Jesse on September 21, 2024, 01:21:16 PMThere's been a very stark change on both sides of the ball this season.

Our O has to move quicker (a mix of weaker OL and Receiving core), so Zach's getting the ball out quicker which is taking away all the late developing routes and broken plays we used to make hay on. I'm hoping a bit more focus on Brady as the weather turns will give us a little bump here.

Similar to our D, where we're not getting pressure on the opposing QB, so we're depending more on our secondary (which has thankfully worked out much better than our offensive corrections).

It's been an interesting transition. I agree that we need to control the clock with Oliveria. Jump to an early lead and don't let the Elks linger with hope.

The roster changes for this week should pay dividends I hope. A Bomber win will mean the Lions need to win 2 more games of their last 4 to pass us in the standings. We have the advantage and control over how we finish.
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Sir Blue and Gold

Quote from: Jesse on September 21, 2024, 01:29:15 PMI think we can continue to expect those 3 man fronts. Going to need a lot from Jones and Wilson.

Unlikely to see a lot of three man fronts against Tre Ford.

Blue In BC

Quote from: Jesse on September 21, 2024, 01:29:15 PMI think we can continue to expect those 3 man fronts. Going to need a lot from Jones and Wilson.

That's a concern. However I don't think the Elks can beat us by an overwhelming passing game. But if they control the LOS, that could be a problem. A good run game helps win TOP and field position. Wilson / Jones / Kramdi are the key to taking that away.

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