The Good, the bad, and the ugly HAM@WPG

TecnoGenius · August 24, 2024, 07:16:52 AM

GOOD

We won!!
ST
Castillo
Brady
Fred Penner AWESOME
The kid we brought to his first game got to see an exciting win and get an autograph!

BAD

O (except final drive)
D (in 2nd half)
OL injuries(!!)
Brady injury

UGLY

Watching Big Stan lose his lunch (and looked like breakfast and dinner too) through my binoculars. Prayers for Big Stan!!
Mr Whiff-Under-Pressure Leggs going almost 100% on the night, grrrrr.

ichabod_crane · August 24, 2024, 09:33:08 AM

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 24, 2024, 07:16:52 AMUGLY

Watching Big Stan lose his lunch (and looked like breakfast and dinner too) through my binoculars. Prayers for Big Stan!!

Where did he eat prior to the game? AVOID THAT PLACE AT ALL COSTS!

TecnoGenius · August 24, 2024, 10:14:16 AM

Quote from: ichabod_crane on August 24, 2024, 09:33:08 AMWhere did he eat prior to the game? AVOID THAT PLACE AT ALL COSTS!

Regina taco place?

Actually, in all honesty, I rewatched all the plays and Stan never took any hit or anything. And based on the vomit thing I saw and his strange behavior to his team mates (when he takes his first knee) and being carried (partially) off, I think all of these things are highly plausible:
1) food poisoning
2) flu
3) dehydration

My money is on flu. The real flu, not vid or anything. Flu you can be perfectly fine and then WHAM you get hit like a ton of bricks and start upchucking everywhere and get woozy. Been there, done that.

The other option, I don't want to fathom, is heart/clot related stuff. Let's all pray that is not the case. That could be career-ending at his age and weight. Our OL cupboard is already completely bare, already in disaster panic territory, to lose Stan and/or Wallace now could be the final nail.

If it's flu/food then he could be back for LDC, and certainly for BB. So let's all pray that's the case.

TecnoGenius · August 24, 2024, 12:05:46 PM

There's a strange moment 4Q0:44 where the refs slightly delay the snap walking back to the ball and they're madly motioning "get back get back" (I think) to our sideline! I was watching intently @PAS and at that moment either MOS or Buck (or both) moved away from the LoS back more to the middle of the field. It was very bizarre.

MOS likes to put himself at the LoS or 1st down marker every down. As long as they weren't on the field (inbounds) what on earth is wrong with our coaches being at the 22YL on the line to see what's going on?!

Is this a new rule? It was incredibly strange.

peg_city · August 24, 2024, 03:27:18 PM

I feel like the something people are overlooking is Buck's play calling.

It wasn't hard to see why our offense was struggling. Our OL is down two guys, including our best one. As a result, Collaros doesn't have enough time to let the play develop before he is under pressure. Why is Buck standing him there in the pocket? Why not roll him out?

Also, LaPolice in 2019 was waaaay better at creating short plays for Streveler to do.

As much as this game is on OL injuries and a few bad passes by Streveler, it's on Buck's play calling.

The Zipp · August 24, 2024, 04:12:19 PM

Just watched the highlights - Willy needs to watch the longer Bell TD run and explain his effort on that play.

Zach battled through a tough game

Tim White showed why he is an elite receiver in the CFL.

Leiggio miss might have cost them the game with that miss

Big Daddy · August 24, 2024, 04:30:00 PM

Quote from: TecnoGenius on August 24, 2024, 12:05:46 PMThere's a strange moment 4Q0:44 where the refs slightly delay the snap walking back to the ball and they're madly motioning "get back get back" (I think) to our sideline! I was watching intently @PAS and at that moment either MOS or Buck (or both) moved away from the LoS back more to the middle of the field. It was very bizarre.

MOS likes to put himself at the LoS or 1st down marker every down. As long as they weren't on the field (inbounds) what on earth is wrong with our coaches being at the 22YL on the line to see what's going on?!

Is this a new rule? It was incredibly strange.

I'm pretty sure the rule is players and coaches on the sidelines can't be past the 35 yard line. I think it's a silly rule but it's been there a long time.

Makes me wonder how that rule stands in a place like Ivor Wynn where both teams are on the same sideline (a whole other ridiculous concept we've discussed here before). Do teams still have to be between the 55 and 35, but only on one side of 55?

bwiser · August 24, 2024, 05:36:01 PM

Good- sellout crowd
-special teams putting them in the good category doesn't do them justice they were great
-Bombers resilience never quit overcame plenty of adversity
-Colleros clutch when we needed him
Bad-large amount of crowd left before the end
-injuries to numerous offensive players
-Alexander not getting credit for INT
Ugly- Bryant incident glad he is ok
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Pete · August 24, 2024, 07:52:49 PM

Quote from: peg_city on August 24, 2024, 03:27:18 PMI feel like the something people are overlooking is Buck's play calling.

It wasn't hard to see why our offense was struggling. Our OL is down two guys, including our best one. As a result, Collaros doesn't have enough time to let the play develop before he is under pressure. Why is Buck standing him there in the pocket? Why not roll him out?

Also, LaPolice in 2019 was waaaay better at creating short plays for Streveler to do.

As much as this game is on OL injuries and a few bad passes by Streveler, it's on Buck's play calling.

Ive seen this before where we have a big western conf matchup, the game before Buck goes ultra conservative.
Some coaching moments I saw:
2 and 1 on the final drive, why do a streveler 1 yd dive? It was almost like a free play to go downfield
The last drive, when Collaros threw deep to demski.my first thought was why is Buck going so deep seemed desperate, but actually got Jone's d to go prevent and opened up shorter opportunities with time left. Great strategy.
Lucky not giving up a single,which ended up with cats getting great field position, coaches should have told him to concede the single.
Oline hurt in the 2nd half and the bulk of the pass calls seemed to be mid to deep passes. Not sure what Buck was thinking

Pigskin · August 24, 2024, 08:01:33 PM

Quote from: Pete on August 24, 2024, 07:52:49 PMIve seen this before where we have a big western conf matchup, the game before Buck goes ultra conservative.
Some coaching moments I saw:
2 and 1 on the final drive, why do a streveler 1 yd dive? It was almost like a free play to go downfield
The last drive, when Collaros threw deep to demski.my first thought was why is Buck going so deep seemed desperate, but actually got Jone's d to go prevent and opened up shorter opportunities with time left. Great strategy.
Lucky not giving up a single,which ended up with cats getting great field position, coaches should have told him to concede the single.
Oline hurt in the 2nd half and the bulk of the pass calls seemed to be mid to deep passes. Not sure what Buck was thinking

I agree with all of this. The 2nd. half play calls were not good.

TBURGESS · August 24, 2024, 08:18:25 PM

Calling Techno....

We got a PI call to keep the last drive alive, but they only showed it on TSN once. It looked to me like our receiver pulled their DB down by the facemask and they got the penalty. Was I seeing things?

Thanks.

dd · August 24, 2024, 09:46:30 PM

Quote from: TBURGESS on August 24, 2024, 08:18:25 PMCalling Techno....

We got a PI call to keep the last drive alive, but they only showed it on TSN once. It looked to me like our receiver pulled their DB down by the facemask and they got the penalty. Was I seeing things?

Thanks.

No you weren't seeing things, you saw exactly what happened, and the bogus officials called the Ticat defender for pass interference and you could see him telling the ref the reciever pulled his facemask. No review, just move on. Brutal.

TecnoGenius · August 25, 2024, 02:28:28 AM

Quote from: Big Daddy on August 24, 2024, 04:30:00 PMI'm pretty sure the rule is players and coaches on the sidelines can't be past the 35 yard line. I think it's a silly rule but it's been there a long time.

Thanks! That's exactly what I was looking for! MOS usually follows them most of the way... I wonder why these refs chose this game to enforce it? Surely MOS et al know the rule?

That must have really cheesed MOS off eh!

TecnoGenius · August 25, 2024, 02:33:09 AM

Quote from: The Zipp on August 24, 2024, 04:12:19 PMJust watched the highlights - Willy needs to watch the longer Bell TD run and explain his effort on that play.

I say it every year. That's the Willy way. He takes plays and games off, but he never gets injured (makes sense!) and thus can give us huge plays in the post-season. He did the same thing in SSK, just ask them.

When the carrier is past him, he stops or jogs: it's not his problem anymore and he doesn't want to get in the pile (and get hurt).

I fully accepted this like 3 years ago. We all need to. His talent/production is worth this sacrifice. If you want something different, you need to fire Willie.

TecnoGenius · August 25, 2024, 02:59:28 AM

Quote from: peg_city on August 24, 2024, 03:27:18 PMI feel like the something people are overlooking is Buck's play calling.

It wasn't hard to see why our offense was struggling. Our OL is down two guys, including our best one. As a result, Collaros doesn't have enough time to let the play develop before he is under pressure. Why is Buck standing him there in the pocket? Why not roll him out?

Great point. I was screaming it at the game. We have no OL and no TE and no jumbo and Buck is calling so many deep / slow-developing passes!? What on earth is that? Zach was holding onto the ball for 3, 4+ seconds... then SACK.

Randolph couldn't stop the outside rush if his life depended on it and Zach is just sitting there!

And look, lo and behold on that last drive we go exclusively short game (minus the 1st deep shot) and voila, TD! Well duh!

And yes, rolling him out could have helped, though they had a psuedo-spy on his right most plays limiting his time.