The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

Started by ModAdmin, July 21, 2023, 03:48:27 AM

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Good

Bombers take over the game in second half.
Brady Oliviera, Willie Jefferson, Zach Colleros, Kenny Lawler, Ricky Walker
Oline blocking for running game.

Bad

Edmonton Elks sad to say.
Slow Bomber start.

Ugly

Nothing that ugly to speak of.

"You can't let praise or criticism get to you. It's a weakness to get caught up in either one." - John Wooden

Pigskin

Very sloppy 1st. half. Far to many turnovers.
Don't go through life looking in the rearview mirror.

Pigskin

Quote from: ModAdmin on July 21, 2023, 03:48:27 AM
Good

Bombers take over the game in second half.
Brady Oliviera, Willie Jefferson, Zach Colleros, Kenny Lawler, Ricky Walker
Oline blocking for running game.

Bad

Edmonton Elks sad to say.
Slow Bomber start.

Ugly

Nothing that bad to speak of.



The face masking call the refs missed on Purkop in the end zone was ugly.
Don't go through life looking in the rearview mirror.

gordo

Thank God for Nick Dempsky. 
That is all.

The Zipp

How about a rare player criticism by MOS on the post game show when he called Houston's 3rd down INT "selfish football".   

He rarely will do that...and yes he should have just knocked the pass down as a rule in that situation.

And he wasn't joking - he was dead serious.

BlueInCgy

Don?t know how to categorize this one.  The ?No style points for a win? argument is painting over a lot of rust and Bondo.

Lawlers first catch definitely hit the turf.  So good that the ref didn?t see it and Zach got a play off.

Two failed third and ones in the first half is definitely ugly

First half was bad (at best)

Oline was bad

Zach was good.

Tackling in first 3 quarters was bad

Bighill has lost a step

Oline is getting long in the tooth (bad)

Cornelius ran away from sure sacks

Castillo was bad at best

Punting was better

ST coverage was good

Oliveira was mid at best.  Was only really successful when the D was gassed.

Good that we won.  It doesn?t accurately reflect the Bombers performance.

pjrocksmb

The good
Bounce back, sky not falling
Run game
Lawler
Zach
Demski
D at times
LBs and DL had moments
Willie
Bad
Giving up the deep ball
1st half
Run D
Ugly
Sacks

55StickCar

Good;
Zach had a good game. 20 of 24
Willie
B.O. in 2nd half.
Special Teams coverage
O Line later on.
Lawler

Bad
Run coverage in 1st half
That spot on the catch that put us at 3 and a couple feet. Instead of 1st Down.
Lapses by both offense and defence

Ugly

TecnoGenius

#8
GOOD

Beautiful night for ball, with both my kids (daughter's game #2), having a great time, spending waaay too much on concessions, and walking out with a W.

Getting the OL and run game going to close out the W.

Willie best game in a while, impressive.  He's one of the only ones who tracked down Corny from behind in space, showing very impressive speed.  Saved a 1st D for sure.

We finally made plays when we needed to instead of going to sleep.  Yay on Buck & Hall.

Discipled ball: very few penalties; nothing egregious except that dumb RTP.


BAD

Zach is only hitting around 30% on the deep ball: depth accuracy off a few weeks in a row.  Interesting...

Houston whiffing on the double move go rail with no behind help.  Got greedy dreaming of INTs instead of sound ball.

Taking around 3 quarters to decide we needed a QB spy.  And that weak side run D was horrific.  Wilson, please get out of the tub!


UGLY

Prukop sneaks: we fired Pigrome for the same.  So many turnovers in the 1st half: not our style.

Castillo: you do realize since we changed kickers, Leggs has a better record than Castillo (on both FG and PAT)... and losing that D DI may be a big part of our decline.

Surprise benching of Gray in favor of Dobson.  Very intriguing indeed...

That RTP penalty on an off-the-field ToD play.  Just insanely dumb.

New brand of beet-colored pickled turnip in the Shawarma.  I didn't like it, one kid loved it.  Bring back the pink toxic waste-looking glow-in-the-dark ones!
Never go full Rider!

TecnoGenius

Quote from: The Zipp on July 21, 2023, 04:46:35 AM
How about a rare player criticism by MOS on the post game show when he called Houston's 3rd down INT "selfish football".   

He rarely will do that...and yes he should have just knocked the pass down as a rule in that situation.

And he wasn't joking - he was dead serious.

Here's the thing, in the CFL I've seen D players that can make an INT knock it down instead maybe 3 times in 10 years.  They are just programmed to INT and when it's coming their way their brain shortcircuits and they just act on instinct.  Ya, they want the stat, but they have to change up their muscle memory for one rare play and they often just forget.  I bet they never practice that, either.

You could also argue that if you try an unpracticed knockdown instead, you may flub it and instead tip it to the receiver.  When they have a definite bead on a sure INT, might it be safer to secure it properly?  And at the very end of a game, it doesn't matter anyhow, unless we wanted to run up the score.
Never go full Rider!

3rdand1.5

Good

the win
BO in later parts of the second half
Lawler

Bad

1st half energy
Castillo missing two kicks
Allowing Corny to run like he did in the first half

Ugly

An early pick
2-third down sneaks not made
Missing kicks
Missing sacks
How bad our offence looks without a run game
Edm. record

Sec223

Good. Win calmed things down for a week.
Bad.It was the worst team in the league and it was way closer than it should have been.
Ugly. I'll say it again. This team has aged before our eyes. Need a couple of younger guys eased into the lineup.

Bomber Diehard

Improvements got to be made on our Oline.

John T.

It took a game-and-a-half for the Bombers to get their terrible football out of their system, but by the second half last night they were more or less back on track.

I think they O-line is ageing out a bit, and some changes need to be coming there. Other than that, I seem to be a lot less concerned than a lot of other people here.

It's a long season. There will be ups and downs, and the important thing is to peak at the right time. The Bombers last year were absolutely unbeatable for roughly the first half of the season, one of the greatest teams in CFL history during that time. Where did it get them? No Grey Cup, that's for sure.

It could be argued that they peaked too early last year; the same thing happened with the incredible 2001 team. There's no way we want that to happen again.

The talent is still there. We need longer memories. I can't even fathom the mindset of a fan who's enjoyed the past few seasons, but then threatens to turn the game off after two series in the first quarter. You guys are a tough crowd. Is that what an exceptional run of success buys a team? A fanbase that jumps off the bandwagon at the slightest sign of struggle?

I could understand this ten years ago, when they were consistently awful, year after year, but this team has built up a lot of goodwill, and deserve the benefit of the doubt for awhile now. Even if they are slowing down and getting old, they're not going from 15-3 to 9-9 in one season, and even if they did, it's the Circle of Life, football edition. The bye week has come at the best possible time; let's see what happens going forward.

But show a bit of respect for everything this team has accomplished. Some of you sound like you would have booed Kenny Ploen in 1967, because what has he done for us lately?

If I want blind panic, resentment, and paranoia, I'll go to riderfans.com. We should be better than that here.

Blue In BC

Quote from: TecnoGenius on July 21, 2023, 06:33:22 AM
Here's the thing, in the CFL I've seen D players that can make an INT knock it down instead maybe 3 times in 10 years.  They are just programmed to INT and when it's coming their way their brain shortcircuits and they just act on instinct.  Ya, they want the stat, but they have to change up their muscle memory for one rare play and they often just forget.  I bet they never practice that, either.

You could also argue that if you try an unpracticed knockdown instead, you may flub it and instead tip it to the receiver.  When they have a definite bead on a sure INT, might it be safer to secure it properly?  And at the very end of a game, it doesn't matter anyhow, unless we wanted to run up the score.


O'Shea was right. Houston should have knocked it down. Nothing to gain with almost no time on the clock.
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