Official Game Day Thread - Winnipeg at Ottawa, July 15, 2023

[GOLDMEMBER]

You can flush the BC loss but you CANNOT flush this one. This cannot happen again with this crew. All these Veterans and this happens? It sure makes little to no sense.

MOS needs to put on his hard hat this week!

[ModAdmin]

Game Recap - Winnipeg at Ottawa...

https://www.bluebombers.com/2023/07/15/game-recap-wpg-28-ott-31/

[gordo]

Wow, we just lost to the Ottawa lowlifes using a 3 rd string Qb. Biggest stinker game in a long long time

4th
But no quit in that kid. He?s a keeper.

[gordo]

The way Ottawa's QB was running today, why didn't Hall leave Biggie or Alexander in the middle to stop the chance to run?

Alexander was in the middle on that last td run. But standing flat footed. Looked like a pylon when Crum ran by him. Bighill was posing somewhere out of the play. A bad look all over the field on that one.

[Waffler]

Even Bucks play calling was strange and unimaginative.

The QB sneak to start the game a couple weeks ago and last week Grant between the tackles??? I didn't say anything at the time because we were winning. But it cost us Grant and who knows if one good kick return might have been the difference. I heard on the radio Buck saying "it's football".  I don't accept high risk of injury to our stars as imaginative, it's dumb. period.

The o-line is a problem. We are 3rd last in the league in QB sacks given up and Colloras is getting hit after the throw WAY too many times. They ask if we got too old and I think for this group you have to say yes. This is not the dominant group we had when winning cups. 

[Tee42]

If Zach goes down we are done. The O line has to be better

[buckzumhoff]

Collaros doesn't run with the ball and it's easy to sack him. Other QBs buy time by running outside . Getting rid of Pigrome was a bad move could use a player like that to put in once in awhile to tire out a defense. But went with Prukop who can't pass the ball. Only good on 3rd down.  Should be also bringing in other running backs who can make miss tackles

[Blue In BC]

IIRC a couple of our players were reported to be ill leading up to the game. If that was the case did we dress them or have a reduced roster. IE" I don't remember seeing Haba and he didn't record a stat. Clement was invisible.

So was that the reason they weren't playing or injuries?

Still trying to figure out WHY we dressed Agudosi instead of a defensive player.  Not that we have many choices on our PR. 2 D's and a couple of DT's.

3 way tie in the East at 2 - 3

[dd]

We lost key personnel to the interior of our O line and their replacements are no where near the same talent level and it shows.

[Jesse]

Collaros doesn't run with the ball and it's easy to sack him. Other QBs buy time by running outside . Getting rid of Pigrome was a bad move could use a player like that to put in once in awhile to tire out a defense. But went with Prukop who can't pass the ball. Only good on 3rd down.  Should be also bringing in other running backs who can make miss tackles

I don't know if this is a result of the OL or something else, but Collaros doesn't seem to have the pocket presence I'm used to seeing.

Normally he's moving around, avoiding hits, getting his biggest yards off of broken plays. That hasn't been happening at all this year.

[buckzumhoff]

He takes the sack . And wpg doesn't even use a screen pass because our running backs aren't quick enough or they don't know when the rush is coming they don't know to go out to take a pass. All teams need to do is keep collaros from outside whoever brought Prukop back should be fired. Because back up qbs are probably not the best in the league. .   

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

He takes the sack . And wpg doesn't even use a screen pass because our running backs aren't quick enough or they don't know when the rush is coming they don't know to go out to take a pass. All teams need to do is keep collaros from outside whoever brought Prukop back should be fired. Because back up qbs are probably not the best in the league. .   

Buck has thrown out too much of LaPo's play book in trying to establish his own, nothing wrong with using a little bit of dink and dunk occasionally to keep a D-line off guard.  The running game was not working as designed yesterday, instead of giving Augustine a few reps. to try and mix things up, Buck stubbornly repeated what wasn't working throughout the game.  Same with Agudosi, not a single ball was thrown in his direction all night, I don't even know if he saw the field.  Comes down to poor imagination and treating some players as second tier, favouritism is a big part of FIFO.

[Throw Long Bannatyne]

I don't know if this is a result of the OL or something else, but Collaros doesn't seem to have the pocket presence I'm used to seeing.

Normally he's moving around, avoiding hits, getting his biggest yards off of broken plays. That hasn't been happening at all this year.

When Matt Nichols was QB the O-line used to have games that kept him completely clean and he was a lot less mobile than Zach.  The only changes in that time other than getting older, has been on the interior, with Goosen and Desjarlais being replaced by Kona and Gray.  Maybe a big step down was made when they went from Goosen to Couture but it's hard to say.

[TBURGESS]

They stuffed our running game and they hit Collaros on every pass in the first half. Both are due in a large part to our O line work. I'd replace Neufeld for the Edmonton game to see if it helps.

[Waffler]

Bryant 37
Neufeld 34
Hardrick 33

We can pretend a tweak here and there will fix it but an over haul was needed in the past offseason. Too late to do much now. Teams that can slug it out with us, be physical and quick, win the line of scrimmage too much of the time we are on Offense. Right now I am thinking our fate is a loss in Western final.